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I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program
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I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:32 PM
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Not saying it’s his fault because Norvell had to first pursue him and then start him long after it was an obvious disaster.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42039219/four-star-wr-cj-wiley-decommits-florida-state

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The program was already dead.

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:32 PM
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He's just a carrion bird on the carcass.

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He did not kill the Clemson program, simply derailed it for a couple of years

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:40 PM
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went from elite level to a above average level overall team with a below level overall QB

He certainly did not help FSU in any way. They were going to fall short of last year given any outcome other than undefeated since Travis did lead them to an 12-0 record and they did win the ACCCG. Still gets me riled up knowing we had FSU beat in Death Valley only to let the jaws of defeat ###### certain victory away from the Tigers.

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really, the word s n a t c h is not allowed, wow

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:42 PM
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I mean a ladies crothular region derogatory comment aside, I do not believe that word to be all that derogatory lol

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Re: really, the word s n a t c h is not allowed, wow

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:45 PM
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😂😂

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Crothular region lolololololol. But yes, that was one of the toughest losses

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:42 PM [ in reply to really, the word s n a t c h is not allowed, wow ]
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So many different opportunities to put them away and couldnt do it. Arrrg.

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I Delight In Workarounds

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:10 AM [ in reply to really, the word s n a t c h is not allowed, wow ]
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Go w/ SNATCHIEPIE

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LOL workarounds, I like it

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:31 AM
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Snatchipie, I am rolling...lol

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Re: really, the word s n a t c h is not allowed, wow

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Oct 30, 2024, 8:14 AM [ in reply to really, the word s n a t c h is not allowed, wow ]
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Correct! My wife hates that word "######" and gets all upset when I use it. Many times the ill-timed use of the term "######" has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory for me.......just sayin.

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Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:45 PM
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Yea not sure why they chose that path. If I’m DJ I’m working out with the TE’s, at least it would create another possible path to the league.

I am curious and know we could not get a number, but how much money he has made in college and why?

He was a 5 star and followed Lawrence who followed Watson. My guess is those in the know just thought Clemson had another stud and wanted to invest??

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:52 PM
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DJ is a pitcher, not a QB. He just thinks he is.

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Oct 28, 2024, 4:54 PM
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I did not realize he played baseball. That would definitely be an avenue I would explore for sure. Wasting his time being under center.

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Oct 29, 2024, 6:36 AM
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DJ was picked up in the MLB draft as a pitcher a couple of years ago, but decided to stay in college and play football instead. I don't recall his exact draft position, but it was in one of the later rounds, maybe the last round, so he wasn't going to receive any guaranteed money in baseball at the time. At least not compared to what he was getting in NIL.

He may want to go back and see if he can re-enter the draft or if that team still wants him, its his only chance of ever going pro.

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Oct 31, 2024, 6:12 AM
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Almost looks like he has not played college football either...maybe he go back to the baseball he should have chosen...imagine what he could do for the Dodgers?

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Oct 28, 2024, 5:05 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program ]
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DJ's Dad should get an award for "Salesman of the Decade". Sold 3 Universities a line of cr@p.

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Oct 28, 2024, 5:12 PM
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DJ didn’t kill our program. We were just set back a few years.

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:38 PM
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Pig is a glass half full kind of guy. I agree!

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Oct 30, 2024, 8:15 AM [ in reply to Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program ]
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Correct, PIG. He didn't kill it. He just caused multiple flat tires during our drive back to the top of College Football.

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Oct 30, 2024, 12:51 PM [ in reply to Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program ]
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It's amazing that Tigers won as many games as they did with the qb, OL and WRs that played those 2 seasons

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Oct 28, 2024, 5:26 PM
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Why do we continue to beat up on this guy? There is a list of people who contributed to our performance during his tenure. Leave him alone.
Tigernet - need prayer? Post a request and it is amazing how many respond. Player reneges on commitment, transfers - some just lose any sense of fairness.
Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde?

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Oct 28, 2024, 6:58 PM
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I was just referring to the WR decommits the Noles are going through. It’s a really good group. I believe that is what happened to us. Top tier receivers could tell that was a broken offense with him at the helm. It’s a vicious downward spiral when it gets going in the wrong direction. Only a coach and program as strong as Dabo/Clemson is prepared to bounce back.

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DJ had a lot of help.

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Oct 28, 2024, 5:34 PM
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He was not good, for sure. Norvell totally missed on him.

But, he was playing behind the worst coached OL in the country. He was throwing to receivers who lead the nation in dropped passes. Due to the abysmal play of the OL, the running game is the worst in the nation. Our two long rushes this year have come in the last 2 weeks.
1. Fake punt where the up man caught the snap and ran for 41 yards.
2. A QB sneak that started with a bad snap and somehow the QB came out of the pile when it looked like it was a two yard loss and he ran for 42 yards.

I know y'all don't follow FSU as close as I do. I know y'all are reveling in the troubles of FSU. But, I will assure you of this. No matter how bad you think the current state of the program is at FSU, you are wrong. It is even worse.

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Oct 28, 2024, 5:50 PM
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I would be willing to bet he does not play another down this year. He and Big Dave have figured out if he gets another year because of medical redshirt, they can rape another institution and sponsors for more NIL money. Big Dave is nothing but a money hound and Karma is a wonderful thing.

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Oct 28, 2024, 6:23 PM
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8-29. Still pissed.

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He won't play again this year. I doubt he will get...

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Oct 28, 2024, 6:25 PM [ in reply to Re: DJ had a lot of help. ]
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....a sixth year. He played five games this year. I don't think he wants to play a sixth year. If he doesn, it won't be at FSU.

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I don't think a medical redshirt year is an option for him...

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Oct 29, 2024, 10:35 AM [ in reply to Re: DJ had a lot of help. ]
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He played in 5 games this year (GT, BC, Memphis, Cal and SMU).

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Oct 28, 2024, 6:26 PM [ in reply to DJ had a lot of help. ]
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FSU needs to bite the bullet and hire Deon if only for recruiting. Norvell wont be able to get off the mat.

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:02 PM
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I would not be utterly shocked to see that happen at some point...

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I would be shocked and saddened if that happened.

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Oct 29, 2024, 6:58 AM
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I won't go into any details but Deion is a controversial figure even to Nole fans. Let's just say he has burned a lot of bridges in the past 15 years.

And, if Deion is hired, I will change my username on this board and Clemson will definitely become #1 on my fan list, with FSU moving down somewhere way below the Tigers.

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:26 AM
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This is the way

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Dropped passes! Isn't it amazing that was a big issue at Clemson also!


Oct 30, 2024, 10:13 PM [ in reply to DJ had a lot of help. ]
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I said when he waa here...many of the drops were because DJU didn't throw a ball the was easy to catch! Too hard, too low, too high...he a thrower, not a passer!

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Wiley needs to commit to South Dakota. Then, he'd be a Wiley Coyote.

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:05 PM
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:)

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Now, THAT'S funny.***


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Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:10 PM
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He didn't kill our entire program but he definitely put one side of the ball into a deep sleep for a couple years.

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Oct 28, 2024, 7:28 PM
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When said another program so who did he kill before FSU?

DJ Uiagalelei's record as a starting quarterback for Clemson was 22 wins and 6 losses. This tied him with Homer Jordan, the 1981 national championship quarterback, for the seventh-most career wins by a starting quarterback in Clemson history

The FSU coach brought him into the program knowing what he was getting from three years of film. FSU tried another QB with the same result. If you need to blame someone I would point to their coach.

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Oct 28, 2024, 8:14 PM
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I'll be honest here, DJ solely lead us to just a small handful of those wins. His record is misconstrued due to our defense being a powerhouse during his tenure and the running game under Shipley and Mafah being our only consistent at best offense. I exaggerate only slightly in saying a dead duck would've been just as capable most of those games at QB.

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:17 AM
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I'll be honest here, DJ solely lead us to just a small handful of those wins. His record is misconstrued due to our defense being a powerhouse during his tenure and the running game under Shipley and Mafah being our only consistent at best offense. I exaggerate only slightly in saying a dead duck would've been just as capable most of those games at QB.




No doubt he had a very good supporting cast as he is not a difference maker at QB. My point is the OP said he killed "another" program so who is the first program he killed? He did not lead our program to greatness, but he certainly did not kill it. At Oregon St, he was also average but certainly did not kill their program.

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Oct 30, 2024, 10:14 PM
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Heck he killed an entire CONFERENCE before landing at FSU!

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:29 AM [ in reply to Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program ]
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Thanks for reminding me how stubborn our staff was with sticking by him while it was obvious he couldn’t even throw a small fish back into a lake.

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lesson : never ever sign a California QB***

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Re: lesson : never ever sign a California QB***

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:19 AM
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NIKE said:





You believe the home state of the QB makes a difference?

A few QBs who when to HS in California and did ok:

1. Tom Brady (Serra, San Mateo) ...
2. John Elway (Granada Hills) ...
3. Aaron Rodgers (Pleasant Valley, Chico) ...
4. Dan Fouts (St. Ignatius, San Francisco) ...
5. Warren Moon (Hamilton, Los Angeles) ...
6. Jim Plunkett (James Lick, San Jose) ...
7. Carson Palmer (Santa Margarita, Rancho SM) ...
8. Norm Van Brocklin (Acalanes, Lafayette) .

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Oct 28, 2024, 8:19 PM
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Norvell ruined it, the big shocker is that Norvell's hired marauders could win 13 games last season. He's a wimp and the team has no chemistry.

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Oct 28, 2024, 8:21 PM
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Big Dave has no idea what y’all are talking about. Cha Ching!

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Oct 28, 2024, 9:39 PM
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No, Travis getting hurt last year, killed the program this year.

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Oct 29, 2024, 6:25 AM
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He has never been coached by the right teacher. He has the talent- does not have proper technique or fundamentals.

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Did he kill Oregon?

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Oct 29, 2024, 6:38 AM
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He was just a place holder at Clemson, he filled in a need and like a condom was discarded. It just took a couple months to wash the stink off. :)

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Oregon State lost to Oregon, so no.

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:33 AM
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I love people that mix up the state schools by leaving off state at the end. It makes for great conversation.

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Oct 29, 2024, 6:45 AM
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Has absolutely nothing to do with DJ. He’s the best offensive player on their team. They have no weapons. Every good player they had left last year and they were replaced with subpar talent.

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:36 AM
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Hard disagree. DCs know they can stack the box on him and that he won’t be able to beat you even with a good line and receivers because he is too slow and inaccurate. Unless your D just sux.

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I feel like their fate was already sealed

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:32 AM
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They have so many issues outside of QB, I can't imagine even a good QB making much of a difference. Maybe they would have pulled out one more win somewhere.

That offense really just has nothing going for it so unless they could've found a player like Vick, Cam, Lamar, Jayden Daniels, etc that can run and throw and put an entire offense on their back, I just don't see them doing anything on that side of the ball. I'm not sure that player even exists this year, but the closest thing is probably Cam Ward playing for their rival.

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Re: I dont think theres any other way to say it: DJ has killed another program

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Oct 29, 2024, 8:58 AM
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Their program is built on the transfer portal. While I do believe in adding certain players to fill gaps, it isn't a sustainable way to build a program. FSU is a prime example of just how good it can go and how bad it can go just as quickly!

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There are indeed other ways to say it...


Oct 30, 2024, 8:17 AM
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DJU has murdered another program

DJU has committed homicide in another program

DJU has ensured that another program has
died

DJU ensured that another program took its past breath

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Oct 30, 2024, 9:01 PM
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why say anything? What good does crapping on DJ; a Clemson grad, do for Clemson or the fans.

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So we blaming DJU instead of Norvell losing his 50 mercs from last year?


Oct 30, 2024, 9:52 PM
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That's rich.
DJ didn't pan out. Doesn't mean Clemson fans should #### on him.

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