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National Champion [7525]
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Clemson Conqueror [11678]
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German AF. Wear it, expel less into atmosphere.***
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:10 PM
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National Champion [7525]
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Re: German AF. Wear it, expel less into atmosphere.***
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:16 PM
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Bull. Does breathing through a chickenwire fence "expel less into the atmsophere"?
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Clemson Conqueror [11678]
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Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 23, 2023, 9:35 AM
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less particulate when masked vs unmasked.
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National Champion [7525]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:39 PM
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"Particulate" is NOT how viruses transmit. They are lighter than air and emanate like a cloud from the shedding (infected) person.
There is not one study that shows any effect on viral transmission in a population from wearing masks.
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Ring of Honor [22041]
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You are not a smart person.***
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National Champion [7525]
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Re: You are not a smart person.***
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:47 PM
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I'm a board certified physician. And you?
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Paw Master [16947]
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But, Doc...he has
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Aug 23, 2023, 9:40 PM
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Lotsa Holiday Inn Express points!
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Heisman Winner [80785]
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Which bored, The Lunge, or Politics?
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:03 AM
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Just kidding. Butt, mask vs no mask is just like vax vs no-vax, the dead horse has been beaten until his bones are micro-dust mingled with the atmosphere.
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Orange Beast [6559]
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Re: You are not a smart person.***
Aug 24, 2023, 11:05 AM
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That tells you all you need to know about Board Certification.
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Paw Master [17549]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 24, 2023, 11:10 AM
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LOL @ posting a CNN article as your "evidence"
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Varsity [122]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 23, 2023, 9:17 PM
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TI Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis. AU Talic S, Shah S, Wild H, Gasevic D, Maharaj A, Ademi Z, Li X, Xu W, Mesa-Eguiagaray I, Rostron J, Theodoratou E, Zhang X, Motee A, Liew D, Ilic D SO BMJ. 2021;375:e068302. Epub 2021 Nov 17. OBJECTIVE: To review the evidence on the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. DESIGN: Systematic review and meta-analysis. DATA SOURCES: Medline, Embase, CINAHL, Biosis, Joanna Briggs, Global Health, and World Health Organization COVID-19 database (preprints). ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR STUDY SELECTION: Observational and interventional studies that assessed the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The main outcome measure was incidence of covid-19. Secondary outcomes included SARS-CoV-2 transmission and covid-19 mortality. DATA SYNTHESIS: DerSimonian Laird random effects meta-analysis was performed to investigate the effect of mask wearing, handwashing, and physical distancing measures on incidence of covid-19. Pooled effect estimates with corresponding 95% confidence intervals were computed, and heterogeneity among studies was assessed using Cochran's Q test and the I2 metrics, with two tailed P values. RESULTS: 72 studies met the inclusion criteria, of which 35 evaluated individual public health measures and 37 assessed multiple public health measures as a "package of interventions." Eight of 35 studies were included in the meta-analysis, which indicated a reduction in incidence of covid-19 associated with handwashing (relative risk 0.47, 95% confidence interval 0.19 to 1.12, I2=12%), mask wearing (0.47, 0.29 to 0.75, I2=84%), and physical distancing (0.75, 0.59 to 0.95, I2=87%). Owing to heterogeneity of the studies, meta-analysis was not possible for the outcomes of quarantine and isolation, universal lockdowns, and closures of borders, schools, and workplaces. The effects of these interventions were synthesised descriptively. CONCLUSIONS: This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence covid-19. Public health efforts to implement public health measures should consider community health and sociocultural needs, and future research is needed to better understand the effectiveness of public health measures in the context of covid-19 vaccination. SYSTEMATICREVIEW REGISTRATION: PROSPERO CRD42020178692.
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Solid Orange [1302]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
Aug 23, 2023, 11:44 PM
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Well done. Thanks.
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National Champion [7525]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 24, 2023, 1:17 AM
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1. That is a combined study that includes 3 variables- masking, hand washing and public distancing. Of course if any variable is effective then the combined results will show efficacy. Physical distancing works if a virus is transmitted by proximity, obviously.
2. Systemic reviews are weak studies.
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Solid Orange [1349]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 23, 2023, 9:48 PM
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Expelling droplets from your mouth and nose filled with a virus is how they transmit. Common sense tells you masks help prevent those droplets from spreading around.
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National Champion [7525]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 23, 2023, 11:50 PM
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That’s how heavier than air particles like bacteria are transmitted. Not viruses.
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
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Aug 24, 2023, 8:24 AM
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But faucci says wear masks even though at first faucci said masks didn't work. Whichever way the political winds blow. Covid is all politics. It's a trial run to see how to line the sheep up in the near future.
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National Champion [7276]
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Aug 24, 2023, 10:58 AM
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"The meta-analysis of RCTs found a significant protective effect of facemask intervention"
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-022-01814-3Efficacy and practice of facemask use in general population: a systematic review and meta-analysis - Translational Psychiatry In recent decades, respiratory infections, including SARS, HINI and the currently spreading COVID-19, caused by various viruses such as influenza and coronavirus have seriously threatened human health. It has generated inconsistent recommendations on the mandatory use of facemasks across countries on a population level due to insufficient evidence on the efficacy of facemask use among the general population. This meta-analysis aimed to explore (1) the efficacy of facemask use on preventing respiratory infections, and (2) the perceptions, intentions, and practice about facemask use among the general population worldwide. We searched PubMed, MEDLINE, Web of Science, Cochrane, bioRxiv, and medRxiv databases since inception to August 17, 2020. From 21,341 records identified, eight RCTs on facemask in preventing infections and 78 studies on perception, intention, and practice of facemask use among the general population were included in the analysis. The meta-analysis of RCTs found a significant protective effect of facemask intervention (OR url=https://www.nature.com/articles/ 0.84; 95% CI = 0.71–0.99; I2 = 0%). This protective effect was even more pronounced when the intervention duration was more than two weeks (OR = 0.76; 95% CI = 0.66–0.88; I2 = 0%). The meta-analysis of observational studies on perception, intention, and practice on facemask use showed that 71% of respondents perceived facemasks to be effective for infection prevention, 68% of respondents would wear facemasks, and 54% of respondents wore facemasks for preventing respiratory infections. Differences in perception, intention, and practice behavior of facemask use in different regions may be related to the impact of respiratory infections, regional culture, and policies. The governments and relevant organizations should make effort to reduce the barriers in the use of facemasks.
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National Champion [7276]
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Solid Orange [1321]
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good grief.. talk about "triggerd by masks".
Aug 24, 2023, 7:22 PM
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You act like your in meltdown mode.
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National Champion [7276]
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i think you missed the point(s)
Aug 24, 2023, 9:42 PM
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just making fun of the ridiculous statement 'not one...'
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Game Changer [1872]
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Re: Sorry you can’t maffs. Well established that you expel
Aug 24, 2023, 7:00 PM
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We're supposed to believe you're a board certified physician yet you have no understanding of viral embedment in respiratory droplets? Viruses have MANY vectors of transmission. Respiratory viruses absolutely spread through respiratory droplets. An infected person is not exclusively shedding naked virions.
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110%er [3791]
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Tiger Spirit [9150]
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Kinda like a chainlink fence doesn't "slow down" snow?
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:51 PM
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Let people wear it if they want too. And if you don't want to wear one, don't.
I really don't understand why there's a conversation about masks.
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Legend [7002]
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e: German AF. Wear it, expel less into atmosphere.***
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Aug 24, 2023, 8:22 AM
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You will never convince the sheeple to not follow their marching orders. I don't give a rats rear end about Covid. I have had it at least 4 times. First time was like flu. After that,bits like minor sinus infection. Keep getting exposed and keep strong natural antibodies is best defense against Covid.
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Clemson Conqueror [11678]
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You’re lookin’ awful fuzzy.***
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:27 PM
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Walk-On [115]
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Re: German AF. Wear it, expel less into atmosphere.***
Aug 24, 2023, 8:47 AM
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The first time I complied. I’m a pretty laid back person. But, if the mask police try to force people this time, the result will not be the same.
I’m not going back there again and if any narcissistic, control seeking, virtue-signaling “public health expert” (who probably not only appears to be a miserable person but should in any common sense world disqualify themselves from that title by their obesity alone) tries to make me, it’s not going to go well.
I think I speak for an ever expanding millions of Americans.
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Head Coach [998]
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Re: German AF. Wear it, expel less into atmosphere.***
Aug 24, 2023, 5:39 PM
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The first time I complied. I’m a pretty laid back person. But, if the mask police try to force people this time, the result will not be the same.
I’m not going back there again and if any narcissistic, control seeking, virtue-signaling “public health expert” (who probably not only appears to be a miserable person but should in any common sense world disqualify themselves from that title by their obesity alone) tries to make me, it’s not going to go well.
I think I speak for an ever expanding millions of Americans.
Just for the record, NO ONE else "speaks for" me. And never will. That is all
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Re: Masks revisited….
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:32 PM
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People who believe in wearing them can do what they want and those who don’t shouldn’t be forced to. I rarely wore a mask in 2020 and I was fine
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110%er [3713]
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This is the right answer
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Aug 23, 2023, 7:44 PM
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People wearing them doesn’t hurt me. If that’s all I have to worry about things are going very well. I won’t be wearing one.
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Standout [211]
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 23, 2023, 9:44 PM
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Which one of you got human sperm on your mask.
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Game Day Hero [4332]
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Re: Masks revisited….
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Aug 23, 2023, 10:13 PM
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Being a UPS driver I had to work thru the pandemic. I never got covid and rarely wore a mask. The whole mask thing seems like another forced Liberal Dumbacrat agenda.
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Game Day Hero [4462]
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Re: Masks revisited….
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Aug 23, 2023, 10:19 PM
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Being a UPS driver I had to work thru the pandemic. I never got covid and rarely wore a mask. The whole mask thing seems like another forced Liberal Dumbacrat agenda.
It CERTAINLY is!!!
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Re: Masks revisited….
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It’s much harder for Dems to steal elections without suitcases full of “mail in ballots.” So expect things to ramp up similar to 2020.
Remember, Sleepy Joe got more “votes” than Obama. He really did.
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Re: Masks revisited….
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Aug 23, 2023, 11:39 PM
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Ya'll anti mask folks better watch out. THEY are coming to get YOU. THEY will take away your civil liberties and your rights. YOU better vote for some dudes like DONALD that will protect YOU.
In the meantime, THEY will not target those of us who have no problem wearing masks, when needed, which is not now. WE will not lose any civil liberties. THEY are only targeting YOU, not US.
Darwin warned us it would all be self inflicted. He was correct.
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 4:13 PM
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They are not targeting you yet. Look at Hitler. He took out everyone but the Nazis and did it one small bite at a time. Everyone stood by because it was not their group being killed, YET!
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Clemson Conqueror [11849]
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 12:08 AM
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I tested positive for Covid this morning. I went to my doctor and the last thing she told me is that “we don’t even know whether masks are effective or not.” She prescribed a antibiotic rather than Paxlovid.
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 11:39 AM
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Antibiotics for a viral infection? Not taking a position here, but that sounds odd unless there is some fear of a secondary bacterial infection. Remember we have a big problem with overuse of antibiotics.
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Legend [7002]
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 4:38 PM
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My doc does same. Antibiotic for Covid. Said he has learned that it and of itself is not serious, it is the secondary bacterial infections it causes that make us seriously ill. He said in hindsight, he thinks the patients that died of "Covid Pneumonia" actually died of bacterial Pneumonia but they did not give antibiotics because CDC said not to. Said he has not lost a patient since he started giving antibiotics.
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Clemson Conqueror [11849]
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 6:16 PM
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Same with mine. She said she does not recommend Paxlovid for patients with mild symptoms because of the side effects. She even mentioned it’s possible adverse effect on patients who are on blood thinners and statins. I think she is really treating the congestion and discomfort, like you would a cold as opposed to treating the virus itself.
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Re: Masks revisited….
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Aug 24, 2023, 12:34 AM
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And called it science, the censored anyone who challenged the lie…lol
The resturant mask going in & going out kept those chasing germs from getting on all those tables you walked by before you took yours off to eat!!!
The mask Karen’s were crazy eating up being hall monitors and the grown folk here that got worked up about anyone challenging how foolish it was.
I’m sure many of the ones that swallowed it hook line and sinker still get upset instead of looking at the truth.
I love them all it’s not worth fussing about but it’s hard to play the game when you understand how foolish it is to wear the same face coverings day after day lol. If you know about medically clean.
We’ll never forget how they tried to divide us into those who comply and those who question things that make no sense.
I never made an issue of it but my mind couldn’t believe it.
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National Champion [7525]
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Re: Masks revisited….
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You are absolutely correct. Anyone who was a state or federal employee that challenged the state funded "studies" was removed and silenced.
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Orange Beast [6559]
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 11:08 AM
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Everyone seems to be missing the main point........It is a COLD Virus and only harmful to Seniors and those with pre-existing respiratory problems. Most people will never know they had it.
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National Champion [7276]
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why are so many triggered by masks?
Aug 24, 2023, 11:15 AM
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the only time they bugged me was having to wear one in the gym here on campus
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Re: why are so many triggered by masks?
Aug 24, 2023, 5:42 PM
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That's the Great Unanswered Mask Question. I just like to wear an N95 to p... off the non maskers. Kinda funny.
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Solid Orange [1321]
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I seriously doubt anyone cares if you wear a mask
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Folks in the inner cities are wearing mask to commit crimes and No one gives a ####.
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Re: why are so many triggered by masks?
Aug 24, 2023, 7:13 PM
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N-95 mask are effective, others not so much.
As folks wear regular mask the chance of touching their face increases. Tugging to drink, eat, catch fresh air , get comfortable etc.reduces even the effectiveness of N-95 mask. There's a lot bs and scare tactics beginning again.
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All-In [10444]
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Re: why are so many triggered by masks?
Aug 24, 2023, 7:38 PM
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Intended to say, touching ones face raises your risk of getting sick regardless of your mask.
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Dynasty Maker [3574]
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Wait, what year is it? Why are we arguing this again?
Aug 24, 2023, 11:16 AM
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I got COVID, again, in July. It was nothing like the first time last fall. This time it was nothing more than irritating. I took some Dayquil and kept working.
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CU Guru [1222]
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Wearing a mask is about a effective as underwear stopping you from smelling a fart.
EVERY ONE of my doctors laughs when they talk about the uselessness of masking when it came to COVID.
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Re: Masks revisited….
Aug 24, 2023, 7:22 PM
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will pull my kids out of public school if they have to breath their own air again
what they did to our children that were...well... NEVER AT RISK! is something ill not soon forget
if I was more well to do they would be long gone out of those schools - but they got us by the blls - takes two working adults to pay for the extreme cost of life in 2023
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