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Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
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Dec 10, 2024, 1:34 PM
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As an unapologetic Patriots fan, I've closely followed this potential move for Belichick to take over the operation at UNC.
From a front-office standpoint, I have watched him send the Patriots back to the dark ages. I'm not too sure how this one works. His football mind is undoubtedly incredible, but his decision-making in his final years in New England was beyond egregious.
What do you guys think if he is their next head coach?
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Dec 10, 2024, 1:39 PM
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UNC has always been a sleeping giant - They just don’t care enough to win big. Butch Davis was somewhat successful at UNC. I would expect Bill to be successful at UNC, but not dominate. Does he want to go 7-5/8-4 at the college level with the occasional 9 or 10 win season?
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Orange Elite [5286]
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He will be at least as successful as Saban and Spurrier were
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Dec 10, 2024, 2:19 PM
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in the NFL
If college football continues down the NIL/transfer portal path, he might do very well.
The problem is that I don't think the college sport itself can thrive under those conditions long term.
It's a crap shoot
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 10, 2024, 2:28 PM
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When Mack was there for his first stint he left for Texas after taking the Heels to an 11-1 season. He couldn't get the love for football then. He came back to have another go and they said sure, who cares.
If what I saw in another post is even close to the truth, UNC won't go for it. Belichick won't go for it either.
I still believe this to be media fodder. UNC will look elsewhere. They want a guy that will make a respectable program (win-loss wise that is) and not make too much noise about it.
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 10, 2024, 3:35 PM
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If they struggle at roundball would the UNC alum notice they have a football stadium?
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Valley Protector [1401]
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I have to say no. Maybe he offers alot from an eval/management standpoint, but
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Dec 10, 2024, 2:38 PM
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can't see the younger players responding to his boorish style and frowny face. Incoming players were in middle school when he last won a playoff game, and the style of play won't move the needle for alot of athletes.
And as much as emotion as important to all of football, and especially sub-pro levels, he'd really need some firey, personable coaches to help coach em up.
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 10, 2024, 2:42 PM
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It’s now being reported that Belichik has been offered the job. Waiting for board of trustees approval. That seems a little backwards but that’s the news.
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I've been talking to some friends recently about the new landscape of
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Dec 10, 2024, 2:59 PM
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CFB and how the roles in a major CFB program could change to much more closely resemble an NFL organization. College head coached have traditionally been responsible for many, many things that extend far beyond actual coaching. Chief among those other things has always been recruiting. Its long been difficult for a pure Xs and Os coach to be very successful if they also weren't very adept at recruiting and politicking and all of that.
But all of that may now be changing in the NIL era. I think it's very possible now for a program to have the equivalent of a GM that's charge of scouting, managing NIL money, contracts, and just building the roster in general. The head coach would obviously still have input like they do at the NFL level, but this would free up many responsibilities from the HC and open up the door for major programs to just hire guys that are great football minds. Guys that can coach the #### out of the Xs and Os stuff, but likely would've failed in the "old world" of CFB because they didn't have the personality or the temperament for recruiting and the like.
Long answer short, yes I think a guy like Belichick CAN succeed in CFB now, but I think the right pieces need to be in place around them. And they would obviously need to allow them to do their jobs.
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Re: I've been talking to some friends recently about the new landscape of
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Dec 10, 2024, 3:44 PM
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Bellichick has stated in an interview on you tube channel that CFB is now very similar to the NFL what with NIL, REVENUE SHARING AND THE PORTAL.
He stated that IF snd he Emphasized IF he became the HC at UNC he would set up his program to be a pipeline to the NFL. That he would manage it much like you manage an NFL franchise.
I think he understands where CFB is now at better than most fans, ADs and HCs.
I am certain that with his experience, he will do very well. And UNC will have a BIG head start on navigating the new CFB future. Bubba Cunningham is no dummy. He sees where CFB is going.
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Thanks for posting
Dec 10, 2024, 3:59 PM
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I'll have to find that later and watch it.
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It was his personnel (draft) decisions that killed him in New England
Dec 10, 2024, 3:49 PM
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At UNC, they'll hire some ace recruiters and Ole Bill will hire a first-rate NFL-seasoned staff.
Bill would just coach football.
I have no doubt this could work. My only question is how many years would he coach there and could a successor be lined up to continue what he starts.
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Re: It was his personnel (draft) decisions that killed him in New England
Dec 10, 2024, 3:51 PM
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It might be Bill's son...
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 10, 2024, 4:07 PM
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The real question is can his son win at UNC. That is the big part of the deal. Belichick, IMHO as a life long Pats fan, jumped the shark after Brady. It has been my question since then if it was Brady that made him a great coach or was Brady great because Bill was great. He didn't win much before Brady and has not won anything since Brady which is why he cannot get a job in the NFL. Nobody in the NFL wants to go from bad to worse.
So his move here as an old man is to get a spot for his son based on his past notoriety. Can his son recruit and be a successful coach?
I think initially he will be a draw. Anyone that palys football no matter who you are knows who Belichick is. Style won't matter, grumpiness won't matter..its freaking Bill Belichick. Wins will not really matter either. The question is whether his son can jump in and coach the team after Bill falls on his face.
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 10, 2024, 5:02 PM
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I question how college kids will react to his coaching style. My guess… not well.
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
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Dec 10, 2024, 5:37 PM
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Nope. He was an absolute failure without Brady. Remember when he made Matt Patricia the OC?
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Dec 10, 2024, 5:43 PM
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I believe it would be good for Clemson. Anything that helps the conference is good for those in it.
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i think this cements them into a B1G university
Dec 10, 2024, 9:29 PM
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Clemson will be SEC
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As an unapologetic Patriots fan, I've closely followed this potential move for Belichick to take over the operation at UNC.
From a front-office standpoint, I have watched him send the Patriots back to the dark ages. I'm not too sure how this one works. His football mind is undoubtedly incredible, but his decision-making in his final years in New England was beyond egregious.
What do you guys think if he is their next head coach?
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No, he's too old and set in his ways.***
Dec 11, 2024, 6:36 AM
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Article Iin The Athletic on this topic
Dec 11, 2024, 7:57 AM
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Yesterday . Indicated that Belichick is interested in bringing Julius Peppers to UNC to build out and run the Tar Heel collective. That Peppers would also bring some credibility with todays Kids and get donors and former UNC athletes to open pockets for football.
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 11, 2024, 8:38 AM
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He is such a grouch. Don’t think he will be successful.
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I think he will recruit incredibly well the first year or two. Then, if the
Dec 11, 2024, 8:42 AM
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results are not very good, you will see a mass exodus via the Portal. Given his personality, he could NOT be very easy to play for.
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 11, 2024, 8:44 AM
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High risk High reward move. There are so many other good young coaches I don’t understand the move.
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Good luck. Have you seen the list of schools?***
Dec 11, 2024, 9:38 AM
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Meant for another post. Good grief***
Dec 11, 2024, 9:39 AM
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Re: Can Bill Belichick be successful at the college level?
Dec 11, 2024, 2:37 PM
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He recruits the young ones well.
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