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All-TigerNet [11161]
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Committee handed Miss St the Orange Bowl. Unreal.
Dec 7, 2014, 3:03 PM
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This whole #### committee needs to be put in front of a microphone and camera to justify this crap.
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Re: Committee handed Miss St the Orange Bowl. Unreal.
Dec 7, 2014, 3:10 PM
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Ihate to say it but bring back the BCS. Ohio State in the top 4 is a joke.
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Asst Coach [887]
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Re: Committee handed Miss St the Orange Bowl. Unreal.
Dec 7, 2014, 3:12 PM
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Yeah, Tech is garbage. With adequate prep time for the junk offense Miss State will roll them. And before anyone asks about our loss to the garbage team we are no good with a certain player not in the game. Our issue, but a simple fact none the less. Hopefully this year's class addreses that.
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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What's wrong with that?
Dec 7, 2014, 3:19 PM
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Crap, last year we were in the Orange Bowl after getting blown out of the solar system by FSU AT home, and getting slapped around by SC and beat by a decent margin. You think Miss State is crap?
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I think JD
Dec 7, 2014, 3:21 PM
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is going by the fact that Miss St has 1 loss and a bye week in the last two weeks...
And they jumped 3 spots for that.
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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Oh, I see. Even still . . .
Dec 7, 2014, 3:27 PM
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that development lends credibility to the committee's claim to be evaluating the cumulative record anew each week. I don't agree with the idea of giving later results extra weight, anyway. But I can at least see what he means.
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Orange Elite [5239]
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Re: What's wrong with that?
Dec 7, 2014, 3:24 PM
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Did we go UP in the polls after each of the losses to FSU & scar, like Miss State has after losing to Ole Miss??? I don't think so...
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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No, but . . .
Dec 7, 2014, 3:29 PM
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Maybe they got MSU's ranking wrong earlier rather than later. No matter how you slice the committee's odd shuffling from week to week, it's more than reasonable for MSU to go to the Orange based on what they've done.
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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Besides,
Dec 7, 2014, 3:38 PM
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MSU went down 6 spots the week after Ole Miss beat them. Then when MSU went back up today, they rose in the rankings over two teams that just lost and that weren't that far in front of them anyway - KSU and Arizona (who lost badly). . SO those are not hard to understand at all.
Michigan State is a little trickier . . . but for all the committee's oddities, they are right to re-evaluate the entire body of work anew each week, rather than just giving some type of traditional "cache" or deference to the previous week's rankings as a sort of entitled status quo. In a nutshell, if the most recent results change the bodies of work enough to tip the overall balance, then there's nothing sacrosanct about a previous week's rankings.
That said, I don't entirely know what the rationale was for Miss State surpassing Mich State. Maybe it was that Michigan State's loss to OSU looking better? Not sure I agree with that as a rationale, but the point is, it's not like Miss State got practically rewarded for losing to Ole Miss - they got dropped by six spots, then a week later benefited from KSU and AZ losing.
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Orange Immortal [62091]
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there was obvious manipulation going on
Dec 7, 2014, 3:30 PM
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idle teams don't jump other idle teams without something fishy happening.
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Dynasty Maker [3265]
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I don't think it's that complicated . . .
Dec 7, 2014, 3:44 PM
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besides, what would "manipulation" mean on a tzar of a committee that has a blank check? I think the committee was simply inconsistent with their choices from time to time. That's not good, but it may not be so much the result of something "dirty" as it is just some incoherence and inconsistency.
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