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TNET: Dabo Swinney goes scorched-earth on caller questioning his Clemson program
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Paw Master [17285]
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tyler said what the media paid to cover the team
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:07 PM
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are scared to death to say let alone ask dabo. dabo actually had someone not in the echo chamber spew some facts to him and he couldnt handle it lmao
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Tyler is a POS. Defend him and you are as well.***
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:12 PM
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TigerNet Immortal [165723]
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kid said he served in the military.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:13 PM
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Way to support the troops.
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Re: kid said he served in the military.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:15 PM
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So?
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TigerNet Immortal [165723]
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So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:17 PM
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a kid who volunteered to sacrifice his life for him if needed a POS for criticizing said multi-millionaire.
Sounds like some messed up priorities to me. I'd say the kid's earned the right to ask Dabo whatever he wants without Dabo acting like a 4th grader who just got a "yo mama" insult hurled at him.
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:48 PM
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I served in the military, 3 rotations to Afghanistan and 1 to Iraq. I’ve met countless POS in the military. Serving doesn’t mean anything about your character.
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:11 PM
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Amen, brother!
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TigerNet Immortal [165723]
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Ok, lets put the military to the side.
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:14 PM
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Does asking a coach (rather politely it must be said) if he thinks he’s earning his salary make someone a “POS”? I’d say only if you are far, far too emotionally invested in the coach being asked the question.
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Orange Elite [5234]
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Exactly!***
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Re: This right here
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Oct 31, 2023, 8:06 AM
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Vile and crappy Vets - you never served, or too busy eating snickers bars sitting on your fat #### sitting on your Mommy’s couch?
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Re: This right here
Oct 31, 2023, 12:35 PM
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I have met many ex military who are awful people.
Just because you somehow ended up in the military does not make you some awesome person.
You have to earn respect.
Keep in mind, our military is voluntary. The majority kids who my kids knew who volunteered were nmot our best.
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Oct 31, 2023, 8:32 AM
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I said similar in another thread. My son is currently serving (3 years in), and he tells me stories that would make you shake your head.
I went to school with guys that were POS in high school and are still POS now. One is currently in prison for attacking his wife with a machete (fortunately he didn't kill her). Ex-military doesn't always equal the son you wish you had.
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Oct 31, 2023, 9:47 AM
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There is good and bad in every walk of life, and the path you take is the only path you can be responsible for!!!
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
Oct 31, 2023, 8:30 PM
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I served in the military, 3 rotations to Afghanistan and 1 to Iraq. I’ve met countless POS in the military. Serving doesn’t mean anything about your character.
Thanks for your service and sacrifices. I hope you are doing well.
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Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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I have it scored the other way***
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:46 PM
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Re: I have it scored the other way***
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Oct 31, 2023, 12:39 AM
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Me too. I did not hear it, but just read the transcript. What was on there that Dabo said that was not true? Nothing that I saw. When Tyler made it personal, Dabo had every right to make his comments personal, so let's get over the butt hurt over Dabo's comments.
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Re: I have it scored the other way***
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Oct 31, 2023, 12:52 AM
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I don’t think Dabos come back was inherently wrong. That is if there weren’t so many valid questions that need answers. Questions about coaching hires, what he plans to do about it are questions the majority of the fan base want answers to so when he attacked the only person that’s either been willing or allowed to ask them he attacked a piece of us.
For the record I wouldn’t have bothered to ask him was he worth his salary. First of all that’s just rude and secondly we all know the answer to that one.
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Only because Dabo fumbled at the
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Oct 30, 2023, 11:16 PM
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1 yard line… lol
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 1:22 AM
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Dabo 2 nattys Brad ?
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 4:15 AM
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The truth is nobody won, least of all Clemson…
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 7:03 AM
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Ole Judge Keller’s scoring of the Tyler/Dabo interaction sums the Jusge up. Dabo put a passive aggressive fan regurgitating Tigernet complainer themes in his place and the Judge scores it for Tyler.
This was so one sided that I am not so sure this was not a setup. Tyler repeats 80% of the complainers chorus and Dabo responds.
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Another swing and a miss by JK the clown.
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Oct 31, 2023, 7:43 AM
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Supporting an #### who treated Dabo without respect. This is normal for JK. Such a predictable piece of crud.
Asking Dabo about how to fix something is one thing, to go to pay and hires and all that is crud.
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 8:03 AM
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Ole' Fudge P. Smeller 👍🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 8:31 AM
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Dabo's record:
Championships
2 National (2016, 2018)
8 ACC (2011, 2015–2020, 2022)
10 ACC Atlantic Division (2009, 2011, 2012, 2015–2020, 2022)
Awards
3× Paul "Bear" Bryant Award (2015, 2016, 2018)
AFCA Coach of the Year (2015)
AP College Football Coach of the Year (2015)
Sporting News Coach of the Year (2015)
Walter Camp Coach of the Year (2015)
Home Depot Coach of the Year (2015)
George Munger Award (2015)
Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year (2011)
2× ACC Coach of the Year (2015, 2018)
Tyler post your record!
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Oct 31, 2023, 9:55 AM
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Dabo's record 2023, 4-4 with the only ACC wins was against two programs below us today in the ACC...
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
Oct 31, 2023, 3:48 PM
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So what ? Would you fire Dabo if you could ?
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
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Dabo 1 trillion-tyler 0
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You couldn't be more wrong on this***
Oct 31, 2023, 2:27 PM
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Re: Tyler 1, Dabo 0.***
Oct 31, 2023, 3:45 PM
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Dabo built this town. Judge are you Tyler?? What’s the score of football vs basketball?? You are a piece of work
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Being a multimillionaire is fine.
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:20 PM
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Being a multimillionaire telling a service member asking a pretty reasonable question that they’ve done nothing in life compared to you and that they’re the problem and you don’t have to care what fans like them think……well, that’s just a classic a-hole.
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Re: Being a multimillionaire is fine.
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:44 PM
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Yeah did you like the “never failed at anything in my life” quote? I hear someone say that, and quite honestly, I just think they’ve got themselves a whole ####ton of pride. One thing to think that. To say it? I dunno. I think Neff needs to tell Dabo to simmer down on the rants against fans.
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Re: Being a multimillionaire is fine.
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Oct 31, 2023, 12:15 AM
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That statement was quite telling. The most successful people in the world have failed here and there. To err is human. What we have here is good old fashioned hubris. He is the king of the golden corner of SC and he feels compelled to tell you about it. What a big man.
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Re: Being a multimillionaire is fine.
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if you are still fighting, you have not failed yet... when you quit OTOH...
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Re: Being a multimillionaire is fine.
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if you are still fighting, you have not failed yet... when you quit OTOH...
This… Dabo said he has made mistakes or errors, he’s not perfect… but he has never failed at something he has set out to do. I do not see that as prideful or arrogant… just perspective.
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Re: Being a multimillionaire is fine.
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He will get that speech from the AD and/or the President. Stay out the weeds with the fans….take the high road.
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:48 PM
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Only one person in ten that joins the military gets anywhere near combat. That's a fact Jack.
Plus as has been said....I've seen plenty of POS military people in almost half my life growing up in military. Have known plenty of great people also, but let's stop fooling oursleves. Being in the military does not give you a pass to be an idiot or jerk.
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Volunteered to save Dabo's life?
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Oh good grief, we need to get over this bloated sense of importance about all things military we have in this country. We need to have a proper and healthy and deep respect for warriors who take up the mantle for the collective good when our well being is genuinely is at stake, but not every Joe Blow that signs up is "volunteering" to save everyone's life.
I agree with a lot of the criticisms lobbed at Dabo, but there's this thing called tact, and Tyler didn't have it. Having been in the services gives him no special pass.
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Re: So he's defending a thin skinned multi-millionaire while calling
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Tyler was completely out of line and disrespectful. He thinks because he’s a “fan” that entitles him to speak to another man however he likes just because that other man is the “coach.” His anonymity makes it all the easier for him to do it. He wasn’t just critical of “coaching” decisions. He got personal with Coach Swinney. It was classless and pathetic.
I’ll also say that if Tyler was in the military, I certainly wouldn’t want him in any foxhole with me. Spoiled front runners are a scary lot. They hug your neck when things are good, but they cut your throat at the slightest hint of discomfort to them. Dabo said they are 1.5%. He was wrong. They comprise a lot more of the Clemson fanbase than that. They are the sorry element that treated Ken Hatfield like a pariah. They are the type that put moving signs in the coach’s front yard and ominously drive past the coach’s house a in wait after a loss to the wrong team or the wrong game. I dislike their frontrunner attitude so much that if they represented the entirety of of the Clemson fanbase, I’d happily root for Clemson to lose every game until every last one of them ran away like the dishonorable frontrunners they are.
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I served in the military. Next question idiot.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:19 PM
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You think serving in the military makes you smart?
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I think it makes him more worthy of my respect than coaching a kid's game.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:20 PM
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I'd say the same about you too. You guys are putting this guy on a pedestal so high it's scary.
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Re: I think it makes him more worthy of my respect than coaching a kid's game.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:21 PM
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It’s a cult
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Well at least we have that in common.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:23 PM
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Also might want to pick out examples of actual incorrect grammar if that’s what you’re left flailing over.
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You didn't start off well that insinuating because you were in the military...
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:27 PM
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made you a better diversion maker or winner in life. And so far its all downhill from there...
Just calling it like it is but you do you.
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Wow. And you think I have bad grammar.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:29 PM
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Yoda wouldn’t have understood that post. Nice work, Chaucer.
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Those were auto correct spelling errors but I don't expect you to know the...
Oct 30, 2023, 9:31 PM
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difference. All good. We weren't all blessed with your "knowledge".
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That explains a lot of it.
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:35 PM
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Clearly you farm out the thinking duties as much as possible.
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And clearly not to you...***
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If that is true, he really is an idiot.***
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Re: If that is true, he really is an idiot.***
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Idiots vote for Biden-Harris
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Re: I think it makes him more worthy of my respect than coaching a kid's game.
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It's a cult at this point. I do think that was accomplishments have earned him time to try to fix this, but the idea that he's completely exempt from any criticism is completely ridiculous.
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Re: I think it makes him more worthy of my respect than coaching a kid's game.
Oct 31, 2023, 1:45 PM
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Tyler wasn’t “criticizing.” He was making it personal, and Dabo has done nothing to make any fan think he should be spoken to as if he is the local village idiot.
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Re: I think it makes him more worthy of my respect than coaching a kid's game.
Oct 31, 2023, 1:42 PM
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And you feel that because one “coaches a kid’s game,” that means they are worthy of blatant disrespect? Furthermore, since it is a “kid’s game,” why get so nasty about wins or losses? It’s a “kid’s game,” so who should really care, right?
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What does him being in the military
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:22 PM
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Have to do with that question? Also how did that even come up?
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Legend [16126]
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EXACTLY...I've plenty of abussive alcoholics from the military...
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Do I respect their service? Absolutely!
Are they always the best decision makers? Lets not be ignorant.
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lol, backpedal time.***
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You said "Way to support the troops" as if by calling someone out...
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:32 PM
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for saying something stupid I'm not supporting the troops. You truly aren't very smart.
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TigerNet Immortal [165723]
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No, I insinuated that you are such a Dabo ball gargler that you'd call a service
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Member a POS simply for criticizing your hero. You have screwed up priorities and you’re a hopeless fanboy. Own it.
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Re: You might to show a little more appreciation for what Dabo's done.....
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if that's possible.
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My appreciation for what Dabo has done has reached
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A tipping point with being unappreciative for his massive ego, his hubris, his constant falsehoods, and his complete disdain for the fans, as seen by this very call we are discussing. Simply by this caller asking a reasonable question about his salary, Dabo felt the need to belittle that guys life and accomplishments as well as indicating he didn’t care what any fans thought. This was just massive narcissism exposed in one explosive instant.
He thinks he IS Clemson University and sadly, many of you agree.
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What are these constant falsehoods
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:29 PM
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And no #### he has an ego. He should have an ego. Like five human beings have accomplished what he has in his field.
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Tiger Spirit [9780]
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It is good that Dabo DOES have a big ego.
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People who have performed tremendously in high pressure jobs, spend the time to be mentors to ‘subordinates,’ take chances on hiring lesser qualified former ‘tutored students,’ and unceasingly perform public relations acts … and who keep doing this long after they have secured the finances of their family for multiple generations and having achieved the pinnacle of job performance in their chosen profession … MUST, as a basic personality trait, have a massive ego.
Why else would the ‘tremendous performer’ keep on working at the job in the face of criticism, when instead he could cash in his chips and just say good bye?
Here is where the ice gets thin. After the last Swinney boy graduates, how much longer does anyone expect Dabo to hang around if he’s facing an avalanche of feces from a growing percentage of entitled fans?
Dabo haters, be careful what you wish for.
Clemson isn’t going to go to either the SEC (we don’t add value to them) or B1G (facts are that our academic credentials don’t cut it to be invited to them). Clemson will forever be a second class citizen vis-a-vis the SEC and B1G teams; we will never have the wealthy alumni resources of places such as Notre Dame.
As the resource disparity between Clemson and the ‘rich’ schools grows, our FB success rate SHOULD fall in inverse proportion. The partial equalizer for us is the culture driven program that Dabo, quite frankly, built by himself. Neither Frank nor Charley nor Danny nor Ken nor Tommy were able to pull off the ‘culture + winning’ achievement that Dabo did.
I believe that we have settled into a slot where 10+ win seasons will occur a minority of times; appearances in the expanded CFP will happen once every five years; another National Championship may occur during the remaining lifetimes of Clemson fans who are younger than ~ 65 years old.
I also believe that it won’t get better under another coach. On the contrary, Clemson is likely to slide back into the status of better than average, but not much better, that was our history with the exception of the Charley Pell (cheater) and Danny Ford (questionable as far as cheating) regimes.
Great program builders and program sustainers do not grow on trees. Ask FL, FSU, TN, TX, ND, OH State, Bama, Auburn, aTm, etc, etc. The great coaches are acquired by paying them more (outbidding) other schools, along with having an opening at the right time. If Clemson, having regressed into the realm of the above-average, were to compete for a Nick Sabin type coach against a OH State or ND, we would lose out.
None of this long horrible post is meant to say that Dabo is above criticism. Believe it or not, Bama fans are publicly griping about Sagan.
The lesson in all of this is that one aspect of Dabo’s criticism of Call In Tyler is resoundingly true: Clemson fans (nor any other fans) are ENTITLED to having top four teams every year or ten. For those who are tired of Dabo and his act, be careful what you wish for. Dabo doesn’t need us; we need him.
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Re: It is good that Dabo DOES have a big ego.
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Oct 31, 2023, 11:52 AM
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Excellent post RemembertheDanny. Be careful ungrateful fans. Dabo will leave in a skinny minute. Dabo wasn't just talking to Tyler, he was sending a message to many.
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Yep. I have a ton of respect for what Dabo has accomplished at clemson, but the way he acts when any fan dares to even slightly criticize him is completely ridiculous.
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Re: My appreciation for what Dabo has done has reached
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I agree 110%! Dabo has been great for Clemson until now, but if that rave is his true current feelings, he needs a time out and a serious stare into a mirror! I don’t agree with Tyler’s choice to question Dabo’s salary, but Dabo did NOT display ANY of the character the he has been using as a recruiting point for players with his personal attack on Tyler! Clemson’s “powers that be” need to call him on this one! THIS WAS NOT IN CLEMSON’S BEST INTEREST!! Sorry Dabo, I have always loved Clemson and until now greatly respected you, but your rant was not professional and uncalled for. This rant totally did nothing for Clemson and was a very poor reflection on your character. If Dabo can’t control his emotions any better than this, what example is he setting for our players? There is a saying that says 2 wrongs don’t make a right. This is the epitome of that! No one won in this exchange. Just for the record though, I am and always will be a Clemson Tiger fan! Go Tigers!!
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Re: My appreciation for what Dabo has done has reached
Oct 31, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Tyler asked or insinuated one question, the rest was laying out his bonafides and then attacking Dabo. You don't seem to comprehend what you hear.
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I assume that is sarcasm, but if he did...
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then he should realize the value of respecting the position and the rank. What an a$$.
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Re: I assume that is sarcasm, but if he did...
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Oct 31, 2023, 12:18 AM
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Speaking truth to power is maxim worth remembering.
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Understood, but I would assume he is until I know hes not.
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Oct 30, 2023, 10:08 PM
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Even then, nothing in his question qualified him for “POS” status.
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No better than what he said to a perfect stranger. You need to listen***
Oct 30, 2023, 10:15 PM
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TigerNet Immortal [165723]
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You know hes a public figure, working for a public institution,
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On a radio show aired to the public specifically for them to call in and ask Dabo whatever is on their mind, right? Public employees get asked about their job performance every day without throwing tantrums like a little kid.
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Re: You know hes a public figure, working for a public institution,
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Oct 31, 2023, 11:38 AM
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So, working in the public arena makes you fair game and subject to open criticism and disrespect. I think you just went public.
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You seem to imply that Tyler was some refined, English noble in how he asked his “questions,” if you can call them that. He didn’t ask all that many questions as he used most of his call to make statements of opinions and go on his own “tantrum” of entitlement. Asking “questions” is fine, but just because someone is a “public figure” doesn’t mandate they be treated with blatant disrespect while the disrespectful questioner stays blanketed by the anonymity of being “Tyler from Spartanburg.”
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Re: kid said he served in the military.
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I guess they don't teach respect in the military anymore. And I'm sure the "kid" is exactly who he says he is. If so, I couldn't be more afraid of our future with this spoiled rotten generation in the military.
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Re: kid said he served in the military.
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I guess they don't teach respect in the military anymore. And I'm sure the "kid" is exactly who he says he is. If so, I couldn't be more afraid of our future with this spoiled rotten generation in the military.
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You ever heard of Robert Card, he served in the military too! You think serving in the military exempts you from scrutiny? Horse feathers!
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Re: kid said he served in the military.
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What a stupid comment. So did I for 20+ years and I can tell you there are many DA's there too.
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Oct 31, 2023, 7:36 AM
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Very weak. We who served have thick enough skin to handle criticism.
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That ###### didn't serve in the military LOL
Dude could barely read the ###### his coot dad wrote for him...
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Robert Card served in the military. You want to support him?
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Oct 31, 2023, 9:42 AM
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Serving in the military is a great thing. BUT, it is not, nor should it be, a Get out of Jail Free card that gets played for the rest of your life.
I thank everyone who served to protect our country. But saying that buys some special dispensation to be a prick on the radio, or elsewhere, is just flat out wrong.
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“Appreciation”: Dabo Swinney had a vision for taking Clemson football into the big time, and he did it. In the lucrative world of elite college football, he is worth every penny he is paid—and not just because of the national championships, but also because he cares about his players beyond what they do on the field. Thank you, Dabo, for our success. Thank you for your leadership and your values.
“Expectation”: Based on recent history, it is natural that we will be expected—every year—to be ACC champions, which gives us a good chance to wind up in the College Football Playoffs. Success like we’ve had under Dabo creates those expectations. And that is the whole problem this year for fans.
“Disappointment”: We struggled on offense the last two seasons, so decisive Dabo replaced Streeter as Offensive Coordinator with Broyles Award winner Garrett Riley. Cade Klubnik, who showed huge promise last year, replaced a dissapointing D.J. Uiagalelei in the most visible position on a football team. So we fans EXPECTED an explosive offense this year that would dominate opponents. But that offense has been so bad—for all kinds of reasons—that we fans are beyond disappointment.
The Wise Response: Any fan has the right to ask the question Tyler did on Dabo’s radio show. Dabo should have seen it coming, and his answer should have been: “Tyler, thank you for your question, which I am sure is on the minds of a lot of our awesome fans. All I can say is, whatever I am paid, you are going to get a coach who cares about Clemson University and about his players, and who is just as disappointed as you are. We are not going to stop giving everything we have to make our program something to be proud of.”
Bland response? Yep. But if he had said that—and by the way, it would have been sincere—then there would not be all this noise on the Internet.
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Re: kid said he served in the military.
Oct 31, 2023, 2:12 PM
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Indeed, Dabo’s response clearly was an impulsive, triggered one.
This reveals what we know about every other human being on earth: Neither Dabo, nor anyone else, is perfect.
Dabo’s response to Call in Tyler not withstanding, we Clemson fans need to take some other matters into account:
Recruiting success is the single most important factor in college FB success. Look no further than Auburn / Chizik - 2010 and LSU / Orgeron - 2019.
For programs such as Clemson who will never be able to keep pace with the truly wealthy colleges that also have legendary (great) FB programs, continuity in the ranks of assistant coaches is critical. Loyalty indeed cuts both ways; HC’s who justify their reputations as being loyal to their assistant coaches typically enjoy reciprocal loyalty. (It is not disloyal for an assistant coach to accept a HC position at another school.)
Dabo, by virtue of his unusual loyalty to position coaches who had previous positive experiences at Clemson, is trying to maximize the loyalty factor so that, in the event that another school tries to lure one of our assistants (and along with the AC the key players that he is recruiting), that Dabo will be given the courtesy of a ‘right of last refusal’ to make a counter offer to keep the AC on his coaching staff. THIS is a great help with overall recruiting success.
As for call in shows when fans blast Dabo and his AC’s, this hurts with recruiting. If Dabo were to be polite and respond empathetically to a critical caller, and accordingly agree that ‘Clemson’s assistant coaches are not great coaches, but they are good men,’ then try to imagine the negative impact that would have on recruiting -&- confidence that his AC’s would have in Dabo as ‘having their backs.’ It would be unimaginably stupid if Dabo had taken the ‘be empathetic to frustrated fan’ response instead of the Un empathetic ‘don’t worry, all is fine’ response.
In summary, a bland, vapid response would have been better than his fiery, over the top, unnecessary bragging defensive response. But the worst possible response would have been if Dabo agreed with Call in Tyler.
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IDGAF about what you care about. Still an idiot.***
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Paw Master [17285]
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there is no need to resort to name calling
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:21 PM
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its just an opinion on a football message board.
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Yes...A stupid opinion. I didn't tell you to have it. You chose that.***
Oct 30, 2023, 9:22 PM
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Paw Master [17285]
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i mean if you want to call my opinion stupid fine
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Oct 30, 2023, 9:24 PM
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but there was no need to call me an idiot
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Legend [16126]
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My apologies...You aren't necessarily an idiot...
Oct 30, 2023, 9:28 PM
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But you opinion is idiotic. I'm allowed to have my opinions as well.
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Re: Tyler is a POS. Defend him and you are as well.***
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You're a moron. Tyler was absolutely right. But Dabo threw a temper tantrum like a pathetic toddler because finally someone isn't part of his creepy little cult.
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Re: Tyler is a POS. Defend him and you are as well.***
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Heard him talk for less than 5 minutes and you're qualified to say he's a piece of #### because he said something bad about your football team? Maybe you just can't take criticism.
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He certainly has the right to ask those questions whether you agree with them or not, you seem like the POS to me.
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...questions for good reason, everything the caller said was ill informed conjecture he pulled from message boards. Besides, I remember Tigernet getting their feelings hurt every time Bart Boatwright wrote a negative column about Tommy Bowden's teams.
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Go ahead and run him off. You ain’t seen bad in a LONG time. But let Dabo leave and you will see what bad looks like. I’ve seen what it was like after Coach Ford was let go. Wondering around in the wilderness for 20 yrs until Dabo showed up. Who replaces Dabo? Who? There is not a coach out there that compares to him that would come. Saban, Smart, Venables, Day? They’re not leaving! So who??
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You act like we aren’t in the wilderness now. Dabo acts like all of this is over one game. One season. This has been several years in the making and no one was allowed to question him then. Now the freaking wheels have come off. It’s a rebuild. Whether Dabo does it (I hope he does) or someone else, there is no doubt that the program has to rebuild itself. He knows it too, that’s why he’s so mad.
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The wilderness is when they are giving tickets away to football games because no one wanted to go the team was so bad and Mickey talking on the radio about how the reason the stadium is half empty is because we allowed to many out of state students in or foreign students who didn’t know football. That we were just an academic school and it was time to live with it.
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When you first enter the wilderness it’s not all trees. We’ve gone from a 2020 contender to getting humiliated in a playoff to not making the playoff, losing to rival, our bowl game, our season opener to a bottom dweller and we’re on track to possibly not make a bowl and drop another one to our rivalry. This isn’t AA. We should be sober enough to not need to hit bottom before we adjust behavior
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Re: We are no where near the wilderness
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Why do you assume we will hit bottom if Dabo isn't fired?
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No, I think he is mad because after his first mediocre to poor season he’s had in 13 years, spoiled frontrunners refuse to show him even a modicum of grace. The man has won 165 games in 15 years at Clemson a fairly above average football team that had been irrelevant, both regionally and nationally for two decades before he took the job. He didn’t do all this at Texas or Ohio State or Southern Cal, Notre Dame, Michigan, or Alabama. He did it at all, as he has well said many times, at “little ole’ Clemson.”
Yes, Clemson University. A regional, land grant university agrarian and technical university located in a small southern town, in a corner of a small, rural county, in one of the smallest and poorest states in the nation. He did it all at a relatively small to average sized university that has achieved good to, on the very rare occasions, great levels of gridiron football success for a select few decades in125+ years of fielding a school team. And, he did it all at a school that has made football its priority while being a forever “also ran”founding member of an athletic conference widely and heavily known for it rich tradition, unparalleled success, and rabid passions for BASKETBALL. For the majority of the vast majority of the ACC, football was just something you did until the really important sport began in the winter.
All that being said, I think he’s entitled to a little bit of grace and respect for the occasional bad season, as well as being entitled to tell frontrunners like Tyler to go pound sound.
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If Dabo decides to leave there is a good chance that it will be worse than when Ford was fired. Clemson as a University is not built to thrive in the NIL world. It is a school not located in a major metro area. So is Penn State and Texas A&M. Those schools have huge alumni bases compared to Clemson. It was not that long ago that Clemson only had 12,000 undergrads. I am not sure there is a single billionaire who is a Clemson graduate, let alone one that wants to dump their money into a college football team.
Clemson is not able to compete with the other elite teams with a me too approach. Dabo is willing to do things his way instead of copy catting everyone Granted his way is not working this year. If he leaves and we get some “Let’s do what Bama and Georgia do” person , we will be lucky to be a perennial 8-4 team. Tx A&M has deep pockets to afford who they want and have a CFP winning Coach yet they are still a perennial 8-4 team.
Dan Lanning is a good young coach. Unless Phil Knight dies, he would be a fool to leave Oregon for anything other than Bama, Georgia, OSU, SoCal, Notre Dame or Michigan.
I fully expect that the “Dabo needs to go” crowd will get what they want in the next couple of years. He already didn’t like where the game is headed, now he does not feel appreciated by the fans for what he has clearly accomplished.
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Go ahead and run him off. You ain’t seen bad in a LONG time. But let Dabo leave and you will see what bad looks like. I’ve seen what it was like after Coach Ford was let go. Wondering around in the wilderness for 20 yrs until Dabo showed up. Who replaces Dabo? Who? There is not a coach out there that compares to him that would come. Saban, Smart, Venables, Day? They’re not leaving! So who??
We had no facilities and the board was not behind the football program, now we have incredible facilities, fanbase and backing from the President and down. This is a great job for many top quality coaches, actually seems like we hired a new less competent staff starting in 2021. We don't need a Saban or Day, seems like I remember we hired a guy with no coordinator experience and things worked out pretty well.
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Yeah right! Sweeney is the winningest coach in Clemson football history and that’s why he gets paid $10.5M a year! This year is a down year and Clemson has not played well. Tyler was out of line. Questioning Dabo’s ability and comparing him to a mediocre former coach is flawed and nasty based on 2008 to 2023 overall results. Who has been better at Clemson? Dabo needs to finish the year as strong as possible, then address program after the season.
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Buttholes like you and Tyler will wind up running off the greatest coach this program will ever see. SMH. Coach has equity, money in the bank. Even Fortune 500 companies have down years sometimes. Coach Swinney will adjust and right the ship, that is if you crybabies don't tick him off enough to leave first...
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What part about the fumbles issues are you missing? Neither Vince Lombardi or any other coach would be able to look good with all of those. WITHOUT the fumbles, we aren’t even having these rants. Geez gang.
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Tyler's reach exceeds his grasp. He went about it in a very wrong manner. He isn't smarter than a fifth grader.
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Dabo went from praying to God to thinking hes God
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Nm
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I think you have him confused with current resident of the WH.
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Dabo is losing it attacking fans instead of issues
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Terrible look
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It’s actually very embarrassing for Dabo and Clemson fans
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This. Dabos true character was revealed.
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Tyler isnt wrong, but Dabo isnt right.
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You can’t go after someone like that on a local radio show that only rednecks listen to.
Wow.
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If Dabo believes that he is exempt for criticism in his profession, then maybe he should do something else. Look, we are all pissed and dissatisfied in what we are seeing on tbe field. But as a man Dabo can defend his record and state his accomplishments. However, he is a representative of Clemson university and the tirade tonight makes him look small in the grand scheme of things. I mean so what, a fan says you make too much money to be 4-4. You have to reply and say thanks for call Tyler, we will keep doing everything in out power to fix this. That's it. Don't engage people like that. This will go national and Dabo will be painted as a softy that got his feelings hurt by a caller on a radio show.
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Hard to follow, but I think I agree.
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Thanks jeffrow
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In 2011, I’m sure no one had a problem when Dabo went on a tirade against Spurrier. He was defending his program then just like he did against this guy, Tyler. No difference in my opinion. Tyler and Spurrier no different. And before someone says “but Tyler is a fan”, well we don’t know that. Plus, even if he is, calling in and being personal towards Dabo and emphasizing all the negatives without, maybe, first thanking him for all he’s done for Clemson, the guy’s a disrespectful, unappreciative punk. Snow flake who needs a safe space and would never say that to his face. That is all.
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Actually this is more like when he called the fans quacking ducks back then, and people definitely had a problem with it.
You're also revising history by saying nobody had a problem with his rant about spurrier, because there were people on this site complaining that he was deflecting from a loss by ranting about Spurrier. Lol
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Glad you cleared that up. Get your panties untwisted, everything is good now . . . . smh
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You're 100% right...
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Dabo lashing out just makes himself look petty and small. It was already on the local news channels this morning. Only a matter of time before the national outlets get hold of it. It's not a crap record that is going to end up costing us recruits it Dabo and his mouth. You don't think Saban, Smart, Day, Novell and these other coaches are loving this? "Dabo is becoming unhinged" will be the line they start using with recruits. Or they'll say "look at how he treats is fans in public, how do you think he's going to treat your son when you're not around."
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So thin-skinned that it's embarrassing.
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There it is again. "I've never failed at anything". It's not a lie if you believe it I guess, but nothing's going to change because he believes he hasn't done anything wrong and can't do anything wrong.
Amazing what fireworks happen the minute he hears what's being said outside the Football complex bubble.
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boring.
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You thinking the "hire an entire staff of rookie friends and associates to be
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coaches and train them on the job" experiment is proving to be a success?
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A success for their bank accounts***
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After* not prior***
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He failed at Bama as an assistant coach and he failed at being a real estate agent….we’re all human and “fail” at things.
Michael Jordan has talked about his failures. To say you don’t is egotistical and complete BS.
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