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I'm not as down on the Davis twins as some people
Feb 8, 2014, 4:36 PM
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Consider first that they both have 80+ tackles this season, while sharing the defense with each other. You take one or the other off the team and the tackle numbers go way up. Judah Davis probably has 110+ tackles if his twin brother isn't on the team, and that's true the other way around as well. Next, they will essentially have 6 years in the program. A greyshirt year, a redshirt, year, and 4 years of eligibility. They are both big kids right now, and a year in a college weight program probably puts both of them at over 230 going into their redshirt year. I'm going to put my faith in the coaching staff on this one, and not write these 2 guys off before they take the field. Clemson has done a pretty good job with 2* prospects over the years.
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Orange Blooded [3245]
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Yep
Feb 8, 2014, 4:40 PM
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Out of all the LBs we took these guys are the prototypical LB size.
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Orange Phenom [14935]
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If each one got half of their dad's abilities we still got a
Feb 8, 2014, 4:43 PM
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pair of darn good LBs!
There only seem to be a vocal minority of idiots complaining (what's new?)
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Scout Team [175]
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Davis twins
Feb 8, 2014, 4:47 PM
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They are a year ahead in school. They should just be rising Seniors. They are good sized kids who are only going to get bigger
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Would have been interested to see their rankings
Feb 8, 2014, 5:04 PM
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As 18 year old seniors and not 17 year old seniors.
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Orange Phenom [14890]
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Re: You know they have the fundamentals beaten into
Feb 8, 2014, 4:47 PM
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them by the Judge himself. Nothing to worry about.
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Orange Beast [6319]
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If these guys have the same attitude as there dad,
Feb 8, 2014, 4:57 PM
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They will be a welcome surprise.Davis and Danny Triplett were two of my favorites.
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Shhh, don't tell this to STS
Feb 8, 2014, 5:02 PM
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They are still stomping their feet and holding their breath in protest.
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Heisman Winner [107405]
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^^^ .***
Feb 8, 2014, 9:40 PM
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Orange Blooded [3245]
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I see them as probably two Shuey clones
Feb 8, 2014, 5:04 PM
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Big and smart not fast or great in coverage. And I would take two of those type any day.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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In 60+ years of Clemson football I can never remember any
Feb 8, 2014, 5:13 PM
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player make such a turnaround as Shuey. Loved watching that kid play.
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1st Rounder [645]
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Re: In 60+ years of Clemson football I can never remember any
Feb 8, 2014, 6:22 PM
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Shuey is a beast! We will miss him.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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Just ignore the wanabee coaches who give their insight
Feb 8, 2014, 5:10 PM
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on every recruit after viewing their film. Nothing new.
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Follower [253]
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Re: Just ignore the wanabee coaches who give their insight
Feb 8, 2014, 5:26 PM
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I second that!
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Varsity [202]
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Re: I'm not as down on the Davis twins as some people
Feb 8, 2014, 5:12 PM
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The greatest thing about our coaching staff and nutrition staff is that they know how to develop talent. I got into this conversation last night. I like to evaluate talent based on visual work and less about the stars dictate They ain't worth a darn if they don't maturate throughout their career. I agree. Let our staff do what they do!
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Orange Blooded [2481]
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Glad they are TIGERS...we really should welcome them***
Feb 8, 2014, 5:57 PM
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Rival Killer [2898]
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I'm not thrilled or bummed about them but the timing is bad
Feb 8, 2014, 5:56 PM
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First and foremost, we have WAY too many LB's on the roster. Secondly, not sure where they wind up IF they develop, Mike, Will, Sam, Jack????? If they still have a lot to mature body-wise, what position are you recruiting them for? thirdly, Jeff can afford to send his boys to Clemson and I don't see them worthy of a scholarship at this time; perhaps they grow into it but why not let them be preferred walk-ons and see how they shake out?
We have 85 scholarships and EVERY one of them should be targeted for guys that can contribute. These offers fall into the Ryan Carter mold......huh???
And by the way, I hope they turn out great, Jeff is a stellar guy but there is just a lot of unknown surrounding them. That doesn't speak Clemson scholarship to me.
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Varsity [202]
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Re: I'm not thrilled or bummed about them but the timing is bad
Feb 8, 2014, 6:19 PM
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You do realize the Vic Beasley came in as a RB right? Where did he end up? How is that working for us? I think Clemson has had a lot of guys like that. We had a TE that currently plays offensive tackle....Our coaches know how to develop talent and they will find a place for them. Even if they switch sides of the ball and work on becoming a blocker of some sort (maybe an H-back, very prominent in the offensive system) or maybe a part of the OL. Maybe slim them down and use them as a safety? So many possibilities. I tell you what though, if in three years, they aren't on the roster anymore or never play, you can say, "wasted scholarship." You have no idea what their plans are. I just trust and seen how the staff matures talent in EVERY player and not just the 3-star and up players.
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Rival Killer [2898]
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Re: I'm not thrilled or bummed about them but the timing is bad
Feb 8, 2014, 9:06 PM
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TigerDrew: you think every player we sign "develops" into a good player? your lack of understanding of the facts don't persuade anyone. The staff misses on a lot of players (as do most staffs). you don't recruit hoping you find a position for them - do you realize how juvenile that is??? Grow up fella.
I truly HOPE they develop but when you give out a Clemson football scholarship, you better feel really really good they will fit your needs as well as have the athletic skills required. I just see no need to offer them anything but a preferred walk-on; that will allow them time to prove themselves without taking a needed scholarship.
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Heisman Winner [107405]
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you recruit football players, you recruit quality, you
Feb 8, 2014, 9:23 PM
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coachable, you recruit system & you #### well recruit kids that can help you win on and off the field, in practice, in meeting, in classroom and in life.
if they deserve a clemson scholarship i'll leave that up to the men that live and die by that decision, the men that know what these kids bring on a personal level & not some idiot that knows nothing of what all that means.
questions?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99207]
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As long as Dabo consulted the Scout, Rivals, and ESPN
Feb 8, 2014, 9:33 PM
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recruiting rankings before giving them offers, I'm kewl with it.
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Heisman Winner [107405]
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of course you do mr debil in the details worshipper...***
Feb 8, 2014, 9:36 PM
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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The Davis twins will first hit the field in 2017
Feb 8, 2014, 6:27 PM
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At that point, our depth chart will look much different. The coaching staff thinks the Davis kids can contribute, they also think Ryan Carter can contribute. What exactly have you seen that makes you think Ryan Carter won't contribute to this team?
As to position...what position does Register play? What position does Yeargin play? What position did Beasley play when he came to Clemson? Coaching would be much easier if you had a crystal ball, but if the coach staff thinks they athletic enough, I'm willing to accept their judgement.
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Legend [19352]
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Re: I'm not as down on the Davis twins as some people
Feb 8, 2014, 5:59 PM
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just ignore the children on STS. They are ignorant attention ###### nothing more.
They are like the pathetic little kid who thought he knew everything but was in reality a #######.
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