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CU Guru [1066]
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"I think a president must be a good liar."
Aug 23, 2016, 1:21 PM
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This is how one of our fellow Lungers rationalizes voting for Clinton for POTUS. What the #### have we sunk to? When did "liberals" begin so vociferously defending the establishment, as completely exemplified by Clinton and her cronies?
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All-In [28802]
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Works for Trump, too
Aug 23, 2016, 1:27 PM
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The same people who were constantly nitpicking every impurity in Republicans who could never be conservative enough, or who were always on watch for anything a Democrat said or did that could be used against them, now defend everything Trump does and says. It's like they think the only cure for the corruption they perceive around them is absolute corruption.
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CU Medallion [73569]
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is this a, but Trump post?***
Aug 23, 2016, 2:03 PM
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CU Guru [1066]
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Trump's an idiot, yes. But we're talking about "liberals"
Aug 23, 2016, 2:06 PM
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I am a #NeverTrump kind of guy.
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Oculus Spirit [83199]
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Reagan was a great liar also, as was GHWB, Bill Clinton,
Aug 23, 2016, 1:31 PM
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and JFK. All were good presidents, IMO. Anyone who has ever had any supervisory experience in the private or public sector know you must lie at times. It's just a reality that comes with responsibility for others.
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Bob from Accounting
Aug 23, 2016, 1:46 PM
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that fellow could spin quite the yarn!
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Are you that naive?
Aug 23, 2016, 2:09 PM
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or just that deluded?
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Neither. I have not allowed myself to get in the gutter.***
Aug 23, 2016, 2:23 PM
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Oculus Spirit [82021]
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Stealing my lines...? #Plagiarism ;~)***
Aug 24, 2016, 10:22 AM
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CU Medallion [73569]
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Lochte for President!***
Aug 23, 2016, 1:57 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I don't see many pro-hillary people here, it's mostly
Aug 23, 2016, 2:07 PM
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anti-trump and I am one of those people.
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CU Guru [1066]
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Re: I don't see many pro-hillary people here, it's mostly
Aug 23, 2016, 2:09 PM
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The Lunger to whom I'm referring has come out in support of Clinton.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: I don't see many pro-hillary people here, it's mostly
Aug 23, 2016, 2:11 PM
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Sure, my post accounted for that no?
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CU Guru [1066]
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Do you consider yourself a "liberal"?***
Aug 23, 2016, 2:18 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Do you consider yourself a "liberal"?***
Aug 23, 2016, 2:25 PM
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I certainly lean left yes but I've been digging into how I would label myself and I seem to be converging on libertarian (small "l").
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CU Guru [1066]
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My statement transcends Clinton.
Aug 23, 2016, 2:28 PM
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For the past 8 years, we've had "liberals" defending warrantless wiretapping by the NSA, cheers for attacks on Libya without congressional approval, cries for MORE government in EVERY aspect of our lives (ACA, etc.), and more. It's surreal. And it betrays a lack of integrity from those I prefer to call "progressives," rather than liberals.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: My statement transcends Clinton.
Aug 23, 2016, 2:31 PM
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I'm not arguing with anything you are saying, I must be missing the point though.
I agree that the term "progressive" and "liberal" is currently undergoing a huge bifurcation though; I believe they are referred to as "regressive" liberals.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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Re: I don't see many pro-hillary people here, it's mostly
Aug 23, 2016, 2:18 PM
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I wish people would forget about the personal stuff and vote for a candidate simply based on policy.
You're anti-Trump because he said something that may have been a little racially insensitive.....
I would love to see someone from the anti-Trump crowd make a legitimate, fact based post on why Donald Trump and his POLICIES would be bad for America.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: I don't see many pro-hillary people here, it's mostly
Aug 23, 2016, 2:29 PM
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I am choosing based on policy. Sure I don't like him personally but I don't like hillary either. However, Hillary is professional and Trump is a reality TV show clown.
Trump doesn't strike me as a good leader of a country. First of all, his wall idea would be an economic disaster. Have you seen what it would take not only to build but to maintain and man this wall? How does that compare to any gains and what specifically do you think they would be?
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CU Guru [1066]
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A small-L libertarian voting for Clinton?
Aug 23, 2016, 2:31 PM
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Maybe you should Google "libertarian."
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: A small-L libertarian voting for Clinton?
Aug 23, 2016, 2:33 PM
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You sure you understand the small L part of that?
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CU Guru [1066]
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Of course I do.
Aug 23, 2016, 2:34 PM
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Are you sure you understand the rest?
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Of course I do.
Aug 23, 2016, 2:36 PM
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My choices are donald trump and hillary clinton. Neither of which represent my views, so it's a choice of the lesser of two evils. It has little to do with the political views I hold because they aren't being represented.
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CU Guru [1066]
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You have multitudinous choices...
Aug 23, 2016, 2:37 PM
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3rd party, not vote, only vote down-ballot, etc.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: You have multitudinous choices...
Aug 23, 2016, 2:39 PM
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Sure I could also pray for a certain candidate to win but I only have 2 actual choices here.
Didn't you say you were a #NeverTrump kind of guy? Surely you can somewhat understand my position.
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CU Guru [1066]
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I am, and I won't vote for either...
Aug 23, 2016, 2:51 PM
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My principles preclude me from doing that.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: I am, and I won't vote for either...
Aug 23, 2016, 4:21 PM
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And that's your prerogative; I have no problem with that.
I happen to think it's especially important that Trump does not become president, so i'm taking the only route that has even a minute affect on that (i realize it has no effect here in SC).
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CU Guru [1066]
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So you've rationalized voting for someone who has...
Aug 23, 2016, 5:00 PM
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...shown herself to be dishonest and corrupt.
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Re: So you've rationalized voting for someone who has...
Aug 24, 2016, 10:55 AM
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Not only that but the policies she's going to continue have led to a stagnant economy and a racially divided country....
That is not debatable.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I doubt you actually believe that.***
Aug 23, 2016, 4:22 PM
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All-In [42440]
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Unfortunately, our last few presidents have been great liars
Aug 23, 2016, 2:35 PM
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So I guess maybe that's the status quo now.
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All-In [40369]
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liar may be extreme
Aug 23, 2016, 3:04 PM
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but a good poker face .
when you are scared shiteless and have to address the entire country and tell them to be cool, you gotta be cool yourself.
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CU Guru [1066]
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I quoted the original poster's words...
Aug 23, 2016, 3:20 PM
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...but I can't argue with your point.
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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There is no defense for her. Libs/Dems will vote
Aug 23, 2016, 3:40 PM
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for the candidate with a "D' beside their name, regardless.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: There is no defense for her. Libs/Dems will vote
Aug 23, 2016, 4:22 PM
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Did you just say "the wall" isn't a real wall?
I'm not sure you are grounded in reality enough for your opinion to matter.
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Re: There is no defense for her. Libs/Dems will vote
Aug 23, 2016, 4:26 PM
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I thought Reagan was okay.
Great liar, terrible human being.
Carter? Awful liar, great human, sucky president.
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