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I cant wait to see how it ends!!
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Oct 8, 2025, 1:29 AM
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I jest..
I loved this team, they were fun.
Thanks for posting
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Re: I cant wait to see how it ends!!
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Oct 8, 2025, 4:14 AM
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We fell off the ladder and everyone laughed at us.
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Re: I cant wait to see how it ends!!
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:32 AM
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You mean kind of like now in football?
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Re: I cant wait to see how it ends!!
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Oct 8, 2025, 11:40 AM
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Weird comment on a basketball post.
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Re: I cant wait to see how it ends!!
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Oct 8, 2025, 12:05 PM
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Only to you...
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No conference titles, no final fours.
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Oct 8, 2025, 4:53 AM
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Exactly what ladder has Clemson basketball ever climbed? Hopefully we can put our feet on one of those Werner Ladders soon.
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
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Oct 8, 2025, 5:56 AM
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The title is actually embarrassing.
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:22 AM
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The title is actually embarrassing.
He also lost an ultimate glue guy Dillon Hunter who hasd one of the best anyltics ratings in college basketball when he was in the starting lineup last season to an injury in the ACCT.
Brad Brownell has had the third best record in the ACC the last 3 years. Made an Elite 8, and then battled the whole season with Duke and Louisville to challenge for the ACC regular season championship, but then flamed out because a couple of key injuries late in the post season. Ian Schieffelin also reinjured his back in Louisville game in the ACCT.
Look I love football and are great winning history. Dabo is going to figure these things out and win on the ultimate level again . But Brad Brownell now has Clemson relevant in basketball. Why do you think the team was selected for events like the Jimmy V Classic this season, and the Maui Classis next seasons the Tigers have a good program now? Who cares if it took him 15 years. He is doing it now.
They are showing signs of competing for the ACC. Remember 18-2 would normally have been a regular season conference championship. It was extraordinary they battled with Louisville the whole conference season just 1 game out from finishing 1st to Duke. Duke had one of the best teams in ACC recent history.
Remember, how do you to expect Clemson to win the ACC now when they don't even get the amount of revenue sharing that the other schools are getting for basketball?
Yes, making some of that up with NIL, but maybe the best response would be to keep stacking NCAATs together and will eventually get more revenue sharing and NIL, then you will fully make up the difference to challenge for more ACCT championships in the near future. This is those the most relevant they have been since Oliver Purnell's 7th season. Now they have the funding needed to keep consistently winning.
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
Oct 8, 2025, 6:36 AM
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So you’re suggesting that a goal of ours should be to make the NCAAT multiple years in a row? I’m listening . . .
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:38 AM
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So you’re suggesting that a goal of ours should be to make the NCAAT multiple years in a row? I’m listening . . .
Yes in most seasons
Keep doing that then can start talking about wanting championships.
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
Oct 8, 2025, 6:39 AM
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Couldn’t agree with you more
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
Oct 8, 2025, 11:17 AM
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Dude, none of that matters. Elite 8 to second round ACC exit / first round NCAA exit is not “climbing the ladder.” It’s pure propaganda for a coach who has been rewarded more for less than anyone (not hyperbole DSP - it’s actually true) in the history of Major / P5 / P4. I don’t begrudge you falling into Team Brownell but crap like this doesn’t fly.
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
Oct 8, 2025, 11:21 AM
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Dude, none of that matters. Elite 8 to second round ACC exit / first round NCAA exit is not “climbing the ladder.” It’s pure propaganda for a coach who has been rewarded more for less than anyone (not hyperbole DSP - it’s actually true) in the history of Major / P5 / P4. I don’t begrudge you falling into Team Brownell but crap like this doesn’t fly.
What is the difference in football probably falling not to bebe the playoffs, after making it this season?
The football team can still finish with a special season by winning out, or at least win most of the remaining games.
Clemson Football and Basketball are both in a special spot. Go Tigers!
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
Oct 8, 2025, 11:48 AM
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I don’t see anyone producing progpaganda about how great this season was and I don’t see Neff giving Dabo a special deal to lurk around the athletic department lording over the football program in a paid capacity as long as he wants. The cognitive dissonance required to look at Brownell’s tenure and say “Years 14 & 15” not only demand we give him more time but also extensions, raises, and an unprecedented guaranteed quasi-retirement position so Neff can still have his buddy around the office. It’s ridiculous.
The Dabo equivalent to last year would be finishing 3rd in the ACC and losing a mid-tier bowl game as a heavy favorite then being given a raise and extension. How would that go over despite having proven far more in his tenure than Brad has?
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
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Oct 9, 2025, 8:49 AM
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Dude, none of that matters. Elite 8 to second round ACC exit / first round NCAA exit is not “climbing the ladder.” It’s pure propaganda for a coach who has been rewarded more for less than anyone (not hyperbole DSP - it’s actually true) in the history of Major / P5 / P4. I don’t begrudge you falling into Team Brownell but crap like this doesn’t fly.
SECOND ROUND ACC EXIT!
You are the king of throwing biased nunbers out with the sole intention of making us look bad. We actually made it to the semi finals which is technically the 4th round you chode.
We were in the semi's and had to beat the 13th best team in the country to advance to the ACC championship game. How many times have we made the semi's in our history?
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Re: No conference titles, no final fours.
Oct 9, 2025, 8:57 AM
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Dude, none of that matters. Elite 8 to second round ACC exit / first round NCAA exit is not “climbing the ladder.” It’s pure propaganda for a coach who has been rewarded more for less than anyone (not hyperbole DSP - it’s actually true) in the history of Major / P5 / P4. I don’t begrudge you falling into Team Brownell but crap like this doesn’t fly. SECOND ROUND ACC EXIT! You are the king of throwing biased nunbers out with the sole intention of making us look bad. We actually made it to the semi finals which is technically the 4th round you chode. We were in the semi's and had to beat the 13th best team in the country to advance to the ACC championship game. How many times have we made the semi's in our history?
What did you think of predictions of Will Stevens to Clemson, M'neer?
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If consistency wins championships, then Brad is well on his way having...
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not won more than one game in any of his ACCT chances.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:18 AM
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I was very fond of the 1986-87 team that had a great regular season, and then suffered injuries late to struggle in the post season.
This team falls into the same category and over time people will feel the same way.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:32 AM
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So falling short is reason for endearment now. OK.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:43 AM
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So falling short is reason for endearment now. OK.
No it hurt.
But injuries late can really hurt a team in post season .
Let's see a football team was 11-1 or 10-2 and lost a key player or players because of injuries in their conference championship game and then lost in the 1st round of the CFP because of that injury. Is that a bad season?
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 6:45 AM
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It depends do we get down by 3 tds to a 12 seed?
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
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Oct 8, 2025, 6:59 AM
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It depends do we get down by 3 tds to a 12 seed?
Basketball is a different sport than football.
Yes, did they come back and make it very competitive at the end?
Would have loved to have seen if Dillon Hunter played and if Ian was closer to 100 percent in that game.
Sometimes good to enjoy what you accomplished rather than what happened at the end.
This Clemson Football season is far from over and can accomplish a lot. I'm all in.
Go Tigers!
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 7:12 AM
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Love the circular logic. Yes they are a different sport. So why was your question comparing it to an elite football team that has one loss?
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 7:25 AM
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Love the circular logic. Yes they are a different sport. So why was your question comparing it to an elite football team that has one loss?
Basketball is a lot more advantageous sport than football.
It is more dependent on skill and analytics, rather than pure power, strength, athletic ability like football. Basketball is similar to baseball. You see teams lose to lower mid major teams in college baseball just like college basketball in NCAATs. At least when it happens in college baseball you have double elimination rules. What makes the college basketball NCAAT one of the greatest events in sports, also makes it one of most tragic. One bad game and it could be over...
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 9:49 AM
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Football is also a very strategic game. Playcalling, design, trying to fool one’s enemy are very important. Both are great sports and very different, incomparable. Which you did. You did compare and then told me they were different and shouldn’t compare. I’m befuddled. Good day.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
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I believe that most people would be a lot happier with BB if he didn't flame out, consistently, against lesser competition in the biggest games. Post season success is key. To show that you have the talent, and coaching, to be the no. 3,2 or 1 seed in regular season, then flame out to mcneese, doesn't make sense. Or rather, the fact that the team wasn't PREPARED TO PLAY THEM, says a lot. BB is paid to manage the team and he FAILED!!!! MISERABLY!!!! AND ITS WASNT THE FIRST TIME!!!
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
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Oct 8, 2025, 7:09 AM
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I believe that most people would be a lot happier with BB if he didn't flame out, consistently, against lesser competition in the biggest games. Post season success is key. To show that you have the talent, and coaching, to be the no. 3,2 or 1 seed in regular season, then flame out to mcneese, doesn't make sense. Or rather, the fact that the team wasn't PREPARED TO PLAY THEM, says a lot. BB is paid to manage the team and he FAILED!!!! MISERABLY!!!! AND ITS WASNT THE FIRST TIME!!!
I agree overall.
But losing two games first round games in a loser tourney like the NIT, and then in the 1st round game to a 12 seed in the the NCAAT are apples and oranges.
A 12 seeds beats a 5 seed almost every season in the NCAAT. Sometimes multiple times.
In 1987 the 4 seed Tigers lost to a 13 seed Southwest Missouri State in the 1st game. That hurt also.
Brad Brownell also beat a 12 seed UAB team in 2011, a 12 seed New Mexico State team in 2018, and a 11 seed New Mexico team in 2024 in the 1st round of the NCAAT.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 10, 2025, 7:08 PM
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I believe you missed the major part of my expulsion of detritus.
Brownell specifically said that he had not prepared the team to play McNeese. The players said they were not prepared. The coach is paid to get them ready, and now the players are paid to be ready. Major failure. And, to me, it feels like a recurring theme
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I believe that most people would be a lot happier with BB if he didn't flame out, consistently, against lesser competition in the biggest games. Post season success is key. To show that you have the talent, and coaching, to be the no. 3,2 or 1 seed in regular season, then flame out to mcneese, doesn't make sense. Or rather, the fact that the team wasn't PREPARED TO PLAY THEM, says a lot. BB is paid to manage the team and he FAILED!!!! MISERABLY!!!! AND ITS WASNT THE FIRST TIME!!!
1. You are dumb.
2. Please provide all the examples of "brad flaming out consistently to lesser competition in the biggest games". There should be a lot if he "consistently" does it in his long career here. We have won our last 5 games against top 5 teams. Do those opposing coaches suck for losing to a lesser team?
3. Is dabo flaming out this season against lesser competition this year?i personally love dabo and think he is a great coach. Is he a terrible coach because we have lost to syracuse, GT, LSU, and struggled with Troy? Again i personally dont think so.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 11:40 AM
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Perhaps - and I’m just spit ballin’ here - if Brownell actually used the talent we’re going to be relying on this year we would have had more depth and could have been in a better position to handle the injuries when playing juggernauts like McNeese St. We were tied for last in the ACC with only 8 players in double digit minutes. Injuries are part of the game.
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 11:49 AM
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Perhaps - and I’m just spit ballin’ here - if Brownell actually used the talent we’re going to be relying on this year we would have had more depth and could have been in a better position to handle the injuries when playing juggernauts like McNeese St. We were tied for last in the ACC with only 8 players in double digit minutes. Injuries are part of the game.
Yes, but what if it was a pivital position like the starting QB? Dillon Hunter was the Tigers best QB at the end of the season?
What would have happened if CK got hurt in the ACC Championship game last season?
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Re: Climbing The Ladder 24-25 Bkball documentary...
Oct 8, 2025, 5:49 PM
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The season after his best season ever wasn’t that pivotal. Brad has been consistently terrible at developing younger players and subsequently losing them. His renaissance is solely based on using the portal for experienced players and going all-in on them. Tyson/Hall/Schieff are an exception to the hundred or so players that have come through program since he’s been here. To simply reiterate that Dillon got hurt is ignoring my point. Perhaps if Schieff had average less than 34 minutes a game he would have been in better health. We had 3 players averaging over 30 mpg. We could have spread some minutes around numerous games last year. And despite your insistence Dillon’s minutes and productivity were about same though out the season - especially after Dec. He was the sixth man in virtually every category. It’s on Brad that he only have real minutes to two other players and no one was available to fill his role.
This is exacerbated by the fact that the AD sent the clear message in 22-23 that if you win a bunch of ACC games - no matter how terrible your SOS, RPI, or falling flat on your face in the NIT he’ll gaslight the fanbase about how great the year was and give you more money.
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