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Hate Speech & the Barley Lamp

Oct 4, 2024, 11:04 AM

"Hate speech" is defined as communication that expresses hatred, discrimination, or incites violence against a person or group based on attributes such as race, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, disability, or other characteristics. It is generally characterized by abusive or threatening language that seeks to demean or harm individuals or communities.

I just mention this because for whatever reason, there are a number of you on this site who think there's a free pass for hate speech involving people who identify as members of another political party - or in the case of a lot of us, no party at all. (I'm now a registered independent after 20+ years of being a registered Republican.)

I would say "people with differing beliefs than yourself"...except that there's several of you who really don't appear to have any particular beliefs, you're just haters in general. There's nothing whatsoever wrong with being conservative or liberal, those are just worldviews, an approach to life more than any political orientation, and neither wing has a corner on asshattery. Regardless, it clearly isn't about policy or reason with several of you, you just hate your fellow humans to an absolutely poisonous degree and politics is just a convenient vehicle through which you can express that bile. You don't really care who it is, you just want targets, and your anonymity makes you think you can get away with it.

But you can't. Crump and BMeist tend to give a fairly long leash to folks on the P&R boards, which is a good idea - politics and religion can absolutely get heated, and it's better to have it here than spill over to the main board - but there are still limits. And several of you are a mile over it.

I used to be a bouncer back in the day. I can absolutely promise you that if I had heard some of you folks talking to someone in a bar or club that I was working the way you talk to other people in here, I would have walked you on the spot...because the way you're talking is a fight or hate crime about to happen. And I have never once heard anybody at a Clemson game talking like that to someone else. (Actually, I did...it was a drunken UGA fan back in that godawful 30-0 game back in '03, though I mostly blanked that out and will again twenty seconds from now. But the cops walked that guy too.) But that is not and never has been what Clemson's about.

But what several of you are doing is hate speech, plain and simple...and it needs to stop. Hate speech is banned on public forums and in public spaces in general for a reason, and that reason is very simple: because hate speech is a direct incitement of violence, and it can get people hurt or killed. And there's several of you who are clearly working your way up to that, egging each other on...and are frankly getting out of control. I've seen it happen a couple of times in here before...and when things start spiraling, my experience is, the banhammer's about to come out and the worst offenders are shipped off to electronic purgatory for a few weeks (or months, in a couple of your cases) to give things a good long think. Several of you have already had lengthy stays in Banville...and it's pretty clear you learned nothing from it. And my experience also is, the closer we get to the election, the more vicious things tend to get.

So I would just say to everybody: let's reign it all in a bit, and strive for a bit more civility. Or several of you are likely not going to be here much longer. At the end of the day, we're all Americans and Clemson fans first (or we're supposed to be)...and if you're a hater first above all else, then you're neither and there's really no communicating with you anyhow. (And you really don't need to be here).

The Barley Lamp's about to light in a little more than an hour, folks. I would humbly suggest we all collectively take a breath...and remember there's things more important than petty politics, and especially more important than virulent personal hatreds some of us seem to be looking to direct anywhere we think we can get away with putting it. And hate speech does not belong on public forums...and especially not in Clemson forums.

It's time to park it. We have a game tomorrow, people.

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debating issues, and we should never encourage or even hint at violence against people who wish us no harm, just because we don't like them or disagree with them.

Having said that, designating things as "hate speech" is too often a way of silencing an opinion (thus free speech) and controlling people with whom we disagree. I don't approve of being mean or hateful, but it must be allowed somewhere in the public realm as long as it can be challenged and rebuffed. The distinction must be clear between that and calls for violence, and that distinction must be respected.

There's plenty of snide, nasty, hateful stuff in here from all sides, who think their intellect is so clearly superior and their opinions so obviously correct.

Having said all of that, I'm not opposed to the old Barley Lamp in here!

Hate Speech & the Barley Lamp

Bruh, PTSD reminding me of that 03 UGA game.***

Holy wall of text

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Maybe AI is going to take over

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Life's too short to hate.

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tyvm***

"Hate", is that tingling feeling that The Libs Of TNet got when DJT was shot.***

Link to one person who was happy about it?***

Your lack of outrage is complicity.***

Welp, you're an idiot, because I had plenty to say against it.

"Welp, you're an idiot", has been sent to Spoon for judgement.***

Sorry, do I have time to edit it?

I have not received it. Please re-send.***

I dont hate Keowee, but

My only goal on TNet is to make Cat have a bad day on TNet.***

embrace the hate.

Even my bad days are awesome

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I have offered 3 times to pay for an Escort

Right on cue.

That was my first Clemson football game.

I agree 100% that we should be civil and respectful when discussing and

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hate speech is anything you don't like.***

It's all relative and determined by what you personally relate for or against.***

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