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For Kilgore:
Apr 16, 2013, 6:32 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Village_townhouse_explosion
Please note the bit about the non-com dance at Fort Dix. Ayers has never apologized and I think he has said that they did not do enough. How do you feel about the klan necks who bombed the church and killed the little girls? Was some random corporal at the dance wi his girlfriend or that girl any less innocent than those poor girls?
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Re: For Kilgore:
Apr 17, 2013, 3:18 PM
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I want to hear how Ayers was basically innocent again....
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Then you'll have to ask somebody else, DUMB@SS.***
Apr 17, 2013, 3:30 PM
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I said he was innocent of murder, that's all.
Apr 17, 2013, 3:36 PM
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That's a fact. I know it's easier to argue with people when you can form their opinions yourself, but it makes you look really stupid.
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Ayers caused great harm...
Apr 17, 2013, 4:05 PM
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There is a system in place that protects radicals like ayers. Obama has become part of that system. The system sucks. Ayers should receive the same level of approbation as the klansmen who bombed the chuch in birmingham. Instead he and his whacko wife are given places of honor by the left.
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OK, so property damage is equal to murder now.
Apr 17, 2013, 4:15 PM
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Gotcha.
Another reason why this is not a good analogy. While the KKK members were ACTUALLY guilty of murder, they escaped justice for nearly 40 years due primarily to the support they received from the RIGHT WING.
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No one at the highest levesl befriended the
Apr 17, 2013, 4:46 PM
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klan guys. They certainly were not given tenured positions at a university.
Amazed that guys like you love them so.
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Re: No one at the highest levesl befriended the
Apr 17, 2013, 8:49 PM
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I have to hand it to Kilgore. He was willing to step up and voice his feelings about AYERS and not be swayed.
The bomb blew up in their faces and so therefore did not kill all those enlisted men and their dates.
I guess in the case of the Brinks truck murders, Billl was not a trigger man so he has no guilt according to the mantra of those fighting The Revolution.....MAAAAAAAN!
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I hate to bring this back to the top, but...
Apr 18, 2013, 12:50 PM
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... d@mn Lumbee, are you that much of a partisan? The only defense I've provided for Ayers is to point out that, unlike the analogies you keep bringing up, THIS CRIME NEVER OCCURRED. The bombing of the non-com dance never happened, and no non-coms died as a result. So, regardless of what was in his heart, he committed no murders. The fact that you're willing to overlook that is mind-boggling.
I didn't like the Weather Underground in 1970, and I don't like them now. Like the Black Panthers and the SDS, their tactics were morally wrong, un-American, and ultimately counterproductive.
As for Ayers, he is responsible for the crimes of his youth, but not the ones he did not commit. After squaring himself with the law, he had every right to full citizenship, including a professional career if he was able. Far from being a darling of the left as you would have it, he was barely known outside his south Chicago milieau, and I would have forgotten who he was 40 years ago had the right wing not made him out to be Obama's BFF. He is a cypher on the pages of history, and you're making way too much out of it. But that's clearly part of your overall strawman strategy.
Now Ollie North, there's a hero you can sink your teeth into, huh?
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Re: I hate to bring this back to the top, but...
Apr 18, 2013, 1:09 PM
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I voted for perhaps the worst candidate for POTUS in history in protest over Iran Contra.
Ayers and the uses and legitimacy of Ayers gets a pass by you guys. What if David Duke got made a professor at LSU and then had had a fund raiser for some conservative pol? Would that have gotten some press? Would that be a big deal? What if Duke and his ilk had planned a bombing and built the thing only to have it blow them up?
Remember what brought Trent Lott down? ( I could not stand Trent Lott, btw.)
BTW, the police screwed up with Ayers and his wife- that is why he did not get locked up for a long time.
The reason for harping on this is the double standard. The same is true of Obama's drone program as compared to Gitmo and rendition. I have complained about both Gitmo under Bush and what Obama is doing. Your people in here sure are silent about all the drone attacks.
I will say this, if the govt. came and shot up a redneck wedding because a friend of a friend was a terrorist and it resulted in some blown up children, the government would probably have some problems with some of the relatives of those children. A war is one thing but going around picking off various people in random places with a big old drone with a big stars and stripes on the tail is not going to win the hearts and minds......Let's move on from Ayers and talk about this? Maybe there is come common ground on this?
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First of all, I don't have any people on here.
Apr 18, 2013, 1:40 PM
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I speak for myself, and no one else does, got it?
Second, there is no double standard. Regardless of what you think, Oliver North is a MUCH bigger deal than Bill Ayers ever dreamed of being, and the right wing thinks his #### don't stink, so get your nose out of the air.
As for David Duke, he's had at least as much public support as Ayers, and I despise him. But I would not consider him guilty of a crime that did not happen, because I think that's stupid.
As for drones, I don't recall being involved in a thread, but I'm personally ambivalent about them. As advanced warfare technology, I have no problem with it. It's all about who's being targeted, and why. Can you tell me who some of the victims of Obama's drone attacks have been?
Terrorism has changed the rules of warfare, whether we like it or not, and our tactics have to change, too. This is something the right wing is sure about when a Republican is in office. Also, collateral damage is a fact of war, regardless of the technology used, and terrorists are so effective in large part because of those who harbor them. I'd rather we didn't have to hunt people down at all, but that doesn't seem to be an option. What's your plan for that?
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