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Does this pic show the former land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:32 PM
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Saying, is this old man shown on the porch of the home known as Fort HiLL the infamous politician John C Calhoun..
who was the original landowner of our campus before bequeathing it to his Daughter who bequeathed it to her Philly-born husband Thomas Green Clemson whose name we cherish when we yell C L E M in Cadence Count?
If you notice, as is with many old pics of now beautiful & well-kept structures, the owners back then didn’t or couldn’t afford to keep their buildings & grounds in tip-top shape. You will notice that the mansion is a bit worn looking as is the inhabitant.
Also..shrubbery was hardly ever used around a large house as this but today it is full of Boxwoods, etc.
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:40 PM
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Game Day Hero [4362]
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Pretty sure thats Thomas G. Clemson. Looks just like his statue on campus.
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:56 PM
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Re: Pretty sure thats Thomas G. Clemson. Looks just like his statue on campus.
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:21 PM
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Can’t be Thomas G. Clemson. He’s not green.
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Re: Ha, looks like me last week without any power***
Oct 15, 2024, 10:20 PM
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I dont see any window AC units?
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i think that is that no good pimp Virgil Earp***
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:44 PM
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:47 PM
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I always understood that pic to be of Thomas G himself.
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Smack Daddy..you may be right since
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:54 PM
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John C had wild flowing white hair while this bro had shorter hair.
Either way, he’s looking forlorn or just simply relaxed and thinking about giving the estate away due to taxes and ingeniously thinking about calling it CLEMSON A & M as a write-off!
LOL~
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:50 PM
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That's Thomas Green Clemson in the photo, which was taken in 1877. Calhoun died in 1850.
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Original land owner was Native American, so no!
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:54 PM
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But, I don’t think natives considered it “ownership”.
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That's Thomas G Clemson in the flesh.***
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:54 PM
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Before the natives, who were of Oriental influence, there were others
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:58 PM
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Who were here first even b/4 the Natives (aka Indians) and so on & on. It’s who’s here now that counts, I suppose.
But know I’ve always admired our native Indians, their many incredible tribe & personal names, their natural way of life, knowing there is a higher power which they respected, how they chose a Chief and how they respected the Elder, innately realizing that the land & its animals were their survival kit for life, etc.
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Re: Before the natives, who were of Oriental influence, there were others
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Oct 15, 2024, 3:03 PM
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Regardless of who was there first, Calhoun wasn't the original owner. He inherited it from his mother-in-law, who purchased it from someone else.
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I would think not . . .
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Oct 15, 2024, 2:55 PM
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I don't know if I've ever seen a rendering of Calhoun w/ a beard, and the guy in the photo has one. Maybe Calhoun had a beard at some point - I'm not certain he didn't. But that observation, along with the fact that casual (non-portrait) photographs were more common in the decades after Calhoun (who died in 1850), makes me think this isn't likely him.
But maybe it's Thomas Green Clemson. Not sure of that either. But I wonder.
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Reminds me of a late Norm MacDonald joke
Oct 15, 2024, 9:45 PM
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If you’re a true fan you’ll know which one.
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 3:46 PM
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Hey, man. That's me in 1949!
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Chuck Norris is The Actual Original Owner***
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Oct 15, 2024, 4:00 PM
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Oct 15, 2024, 4:00 PM
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He looks like he just got a letter from Tyler of Spartanburg.
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 4:03 PM
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I think the picture was taken on a Saturday as The Tiger Band are their way down into The Valley.
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 4:28 PM
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"Get off my lawn you noise makin' whipper snappers"
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Re: Does this pic show the original land owner of whats now Clemson U?
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Oct 15, 2024, 6:04 PM
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Based on seeing the closed windows closed on the second floor and open on the first floor, TGC must have only been able to afford A/C on the second floor!
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Oct 15, 2024, 8:14 PM
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The other chair near the door was likely occupied by Strom Thurmond.
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Oct 15, 2024, 10:06 PM
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Calhoun never gave his daughter the property because women could not own property then. If it was legal and he did give itbto his daughter, our favorite team would be the Calhoun Tigers
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Re: Does this pic show the former land owner of whats now Clemson U?
Oct 15, 2024, 11:33 PM
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That’s Snake, the manager of the Gameroom, sitting on the porch.
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