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TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 12:40 PM
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Coach Swinney "Talkin-the-Talk" time will tell
if he "Walks-the-Walk"!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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When did you ever walk the walk?
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 1:38 PM
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LMAO that was a good one 1965tiger!!!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 5:26 PM
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Unless this team can turn it around and go 8-0 from this point, rest assured there will be coaching changes made as soon as our season is over, and they know that!!! Coaches where their position players aren't doing well, they are probably already sending out feelers looking for jobs in 2026...
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 7:00 PM
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I agree the end of the year is better to fire someone, but if a coach now he’s gone at the end of the year, what motivation will they have to come up with good game plans?
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 8:02 PM
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Chucktown, if a coach, thinking he’s gone at end of this season let’s the ship go ahead and sink, it won’t bode well on his resume. Future employers look at how these guys perform.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 12:33 PM
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Now THAT’S the Dabo Swinney I love. That’s accountability and self-awareness…that’s where meaningful change comes from. Love hearing the truth here.
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Absolutely! You cant fix it until you recognize and
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Sep 30, 2025, 1:18 PM
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Acknowledge it!
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Lol***
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Re: Absolutely! You cant fix it until you recognize and
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Sep 30, 2025, 4:58 PM
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Even if he’s known this all along privately, the defensive crap he was spewing a couple of weeks ago publicly certainly didn’t lend any credence to that.
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Re: Absolutely! You cant fix it until you recognize and
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I truly believe that it will take Allen more time than he's had to fix our defense...
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I agree. Way too early to say for Allen and his defense.
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Garrett Riley, on the other hand…
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Swing and a miss.***
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Re: Swing and a miss.***
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Oh boy. Mike has a new phrase when he has no real answer. Twice to me today. Then he ran away.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 5:03 PM
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Odd, that he admits it’s a complete coaching failure but “No” to making coaching changes? Same ol’ friends and family on the gravy train padding their wallets ..
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 5:34 PM
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Well hopefully you don't think he should tell coaches right now that they won't have a job at Clemson next season!!!
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Re: LMAO He wont fix a dang thing.***
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Sep 30, 2025, 5:36 PM
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Sorry Baltimore but I'm saying that you are wrong...
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 12:40 PM
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Why yes. Yes it is. Now make the necessary changes. Bring "ruthless" Dabo back, please.
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If you point your finger at someone
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you will have three fingers pointing back at yourself. If you point up then you have your thumb pointing at yourself.
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When I point my finger at someone my thumb faces them as well.***
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Re: When I point my finger at someone my thumb faces them as well.***
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Judge, you're just locked and loaded.
Don't pull the trigger just yet
something miraculous could happen!
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Re: When I point my finger at someone my thumb faces them as well.***
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LOL...just say where the sun don't shine
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM
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You can’t fix a problem until you recognize that there is a problem. Will meaningful improvement start with this recognition? I hope so. We shall see.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 1:15 PM
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Pretty Sure the coaches watch the games. The players need to execute the plays!
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I didn't see anything in the article...........
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that leads me to believe he fully grasps what ALL the issues are..........coaching failure in-game and preparation is ONE of the issues, but not all............I'm more concerned if he grasps the macro problems, not the micro.
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Re: I didn't see anything in the article...........
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I agree.
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Has the mantra Best Man Plays become a slogan instead of a philosophy?
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Sep 30, 2025, 9:23 PM
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When the coaches evaluate the players (watch the film), are they doing so with a (I am only presuming this) ‘loyalty to a player who is a great guy’ instead of in a coldly analytical way?
A person must consider their own biases and work very hard to neutralize them if they are to have a hope to correct unproductive behavior / activities.
Does ‘the best man plays’ mean anything … or mean enough?
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 12:49 PM
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Yeah, no ####
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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I wonder what the next excuse would be if God forbid we go 1-4?
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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1st mistake was not making Mike Reed DC !!
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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You know you do have a valid point metro.
Coach Reed has been there forever I would
like to see what he could do at DC.
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Dabo turned dumper
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Sep 30, 2025, 1:09 PM
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Mickey Conn should be scared.
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Why is that? Hes produced some NFL safties ans recruits well.
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What’s your beef with Conn?
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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It is a coaching failure. The coaches do not have these players mentally up to the challenge. Yes it obviously requires the talent. The other side to that equation is mentally up to the challenge and the will to win. Defeat and playing poor is not an option. This team so far does not show that. They've gotten a break this past week with Florida State losing to Virginia. Things can still happen to affect the ACC outcome. Clemson from hereon out has to win.
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It is a coaching failure. The coaches do not have these players mentally up to the challenge. Yes it obviously requires the talent. The other side to that equation is mentally up to the challenge and the will to win. Defeat and playing poor is not an option. This team so far does not show that. They've gotten a break this past week with Florida State losing to Virginia. Things can still happen to affect the ACC outcome. Clemson from hereon out has to win.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Finally he says it. Been saying this idk how long! It's 100% coaching and all these ex player first time position coaches. ZERO development in these players over their 3-4 years
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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It's not 100% coaching.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Ok, 99.9% coaching lol. Dabo is as good as the coaches around him. If it's not coaching then that's like saying this team would be exactly where it is now if we still had Scott, Venables and the position coaches from that tenure.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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🎯 Coaching Failure...But NOT The Real Problem🤔 These Current 3rd &4th&5th Year
Players Have Digressed Plain and Simple...
And Refusing To Park These Non Performing "Elite" Future 1st Rounders...😤😤😤
Ask The Coach of The 2024 And Likely 2025 National Champs Coach Ryan Day What He Would Do About Non Performing Players🤔🤔
What IF This So Called "Absolute Coaching Failure" To Start IS NOT COACHING....
But 3 Year Players INABILITY TO EXECUTE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT🤔🤔🤔
Who's Evaluating The Talent??? Not Many Starters On This Tiger Roster Would NOT Still Be Starting For Anybody Left On Schedule🌞
Including Furman😤😤😤😤😤
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Nailed it Alfred
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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If players aren't developing then that is on the coaches. With all these high rated players on this team, there is no way that it's all the players. It's the coaches job to develop and get the max potential out of those players. Everyone we get go backwards after the coaching gets involved. They all look good FR/Soph years, then they start digressing. It's literally everyone. Blake Miller a SR RT even had 3 false starts in a game the other week.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Not based on recruiting. This is 100% on game readiness.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Ah yes, finally acknowledging the issue and stating how you will work to make things better! (But don’t forget the obligatory “you know we ain’t that far from being on the other side of things right now”)
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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ayyy, it's a start! don't be afraid to bench starters dabo! start messing with their money and they might suddenly wake the F up. aint no gimmes in football. gotta earn it.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Right before I retired was telling the younger guys how business is done and has been done for the last 40+ years by meeting customers face to face, phone calling and also migrated in some new thoughts and ideas but was told that's not how they do things in the world today. They use email, text, instagram and so forth ignoring to hold onto some of the old tried and true.
Within a couple a couple of years the company is no more and they were out of a job.
Bottom line is there is a fine line between old and new and you have to know how to navigate to keep things going without ending some things that have always worked along with embracing some new.
I believe this will happen and Clemson will be back on top of the mountain again.
GO TIGERS
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Wait, is Dabo a Dumper?***
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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You are correct, Coach. Well said! We been waiting 5 years to hear you say that.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Coaches can't do everything. At some point, you have to let the backups have their shot on the field.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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There is no competition if the backups can’t play and START!
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"It's not like they've never been a good coach."
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Well, some of them have never even been a coach.
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ABSOLUTE COACHING FAILURE but then NOT READY FOR CHANGES
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You finally own up to the fact that your coaches are not getting the job done and the players are not performing up to "Best is the Standard", but you don't think that changes need to be made??!!
This train of thinking just might be out of a cloud of smoke from the early '70s!
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I don't think Dabo has ever made coaching changes mid-season...
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even when such changes were necessary.
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Re: ABSOLUTE COACHING FAILURE but then NOT READY FOR CHANGES
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you don't fire someone in the middle of the season unless they commit a crime. you'd kill cohesiveness, recruiting, performance - even if the replacement ran the same playbook. He plainly said execution and coaching had to be improved.
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Re: ABSOLUTE COACHING FAILURE but then NOT READY FOR CHANGES
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Rob Spence committed a crime?
I guess you could argue his offense was criminally bad 🤔
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"This is not the time for that..."
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Perhaps something's in the water. FINALLY
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Re: "This is not the time for that..."
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Thanks but I'll just make some Tang
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wow, still with the "couple plays" BS. Unbelievable***
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Re: wow, still with the "couple plays" BS. Unbelievable***
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to say throw away the turnovers and we're 3-1? Most of it is taking responsibility for what has happened and pointing out what has not been done right and that's what you cherrypicked? I mean, early in the conference when he started taking his share of the blame, he led off with "Nobody wants to hear a couple of plays here, a couple of plays there..."
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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SMH He really didnt say anything of substance. Dabo Harbaugh strikes again!
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Sep 30, 2025, 5:15 PM
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They are two peas in a pod that have wasted some incredible talent and are falling behind the game because of poor coaching and hires. He won’t fix jack shat.
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National Champion [7305]
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 5:44 PM
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Now bench some players and find the ones that want to give their all on the field.
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Legend [6776]
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 6:00 PM
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Tell us something we don't know coach?
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TigerNet Elite [74647]
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 6:14 PM
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So, no changes.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 6:51 PM
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How many other coaches would be this brutaly honest? Not many. I am confident that Dabo will fix it.
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Standout [207]
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 7:19 PM
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Absolutely, and Tyler Grisham has to go! Our wide receivers hasn’t known how to get separation and get open since Jeff Scott left.
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Game Changer [1658]
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 7:25 PM
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We have WR's open on most plays. They aren't getting the ball though. And yes there have been some untimely drops. But if the QB is not seeing the open receivers then it doesn't matter how much separation they have.
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Sep 30, 2025, 9:32 PM
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Dabo’s repeated reference to the monetary compensation factor with the players makes me wonder about something that was unsaid:
Are Clemson’s coaches (let’s assume that this is subconscious) letting NIL payouts to specific players influence their decision to play those ‘big NIL’ guys more than their performances would justify?
instead of ‘the best man plays’ perhaps there is a subconscious sentiment that ‘the best paid man plays.’
The politics of NIL payouts has got to be enormous. Big booster pays $2,000,000 to get (originally hoped to be big stud) player to commit to Clemson; the booster has a car dealership. Said well paid NIL player gets benched because he’s not the ‘best man’ to play. Car sales are not helped by dealer’s ’his player’ having zero marketing value.
Something to think about.
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Commissioner [1269]
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Re: TNET: Swinney calls 1-3 start an "absolute coaching failure"
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Oct 1, 2025, 10:44 PM
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Good to see him finally admit this and quit talking about success 10 years ago! Let's see what they did over the past 2 weeks. IF they don't destroy a HORRIBLE UNC team then we know it did not improve. This is the time when coaches show they are earning their pay - OR NOT.....Let's roll this week Tigers and start a new winning streak!
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