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TigerNet Elite [73574]
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I ask again. Why isn't Biden pulling all US oil
Feb 27, 2022, 9:24 PM
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Purchases away from Russia?
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Paw Master [16127]
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Re: I ask again. Why isn't Biden pulling all US oil
Feb 27, 2022, 9:28 PM
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He’s been asleep all weekend with blanky and sippy cup in Delaware. And the ones controlling his puppet strings are all hypocrites.
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Top TigerNet [32920]
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maybe because we've already purchased it
Feb 27, 2022, 9:28 PM
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and instead of taking a loss we get what we've already paid for? That's the only reason I can think of.
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Clemson Icon [25412]
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Always good to get what you're owed. Agree with that.
Feb 27, 2022, 11:14 PM
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But most poker nights are won by folding, letting the pot go, and living to fight another hand.
That probably doesn't have anything to do with this. Just got that Kenny Rogers song in my head.
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TigerNet Elite [73574]
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So he's a #####?
Feb 27, 2022, 9:41 PM
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And doesn't wab5mnt to ramp up us production bc it'd #### off his base.
Got it
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CU Medallion [18417]
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Link?***
Feb 27, 2022, 9:42 PM
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Re: So he's a #####?
Feb 27, 2022, 11:46 PM
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How is Biden stopping the ramping up of American production?
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Leases and drilling are future events. You guys are
Feb 28, 2022, 8:49 AM
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struggling with the concept of time, and at some point, this should be embarrassing. Stopping every single future lease today, has no effect whatsoever on current production capacity, nor does the federal government control how much of that existing capacity is being utilized by private oil companies (it's significantly less than 100%, in case you were curious).
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Orange Phenom [14170]
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Re: If we don't start drilling more now then there won't be more
Feb 28, 2022, 11:53 AM
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There are currently close to 10,000 permits or leases not being used. Not doing any new leases right now has 0 impact on the ability for the oil companies to drill more. Just like the Keystone pipeline has 0 effect on American oil production right now.
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Clemson Icon [25412]
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That article does a great job of answering a question
Feb 27, 2022, 11:12 PM
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the OP didn't ask.
Gist of the article: "Producing more oil doesn't do any good because the price will go up anyway, and then wont come down until this Ukraine thing is over." When a partisan shill writes an article, that is what comes out.
If you held a vote today, and the question was ... "Petroleum products will double in price. In return, we will be strategically independent of anyone else's geopolitical moves as it regards energy availability. Check yes or no" ... I would hope the vote would be an almost unanimous 'yes'. Hunter would vote 'no' because ... well, we wont go into that because the Ukrainians are angels for the next little bit. But everybody not making money from Euro oil would vote yes.
I am sure some people think only in terms of price. But that is not what the OP asked. So in leftist fashion either you or the article avoided the subject of our admin's missteps by answering another, and irrelevant, question entirely.
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CU Medallion [18417]
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quick tip, invoking "hunter" gives the game away
Feb 28, 2022, 6:20 PM
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especially when you are trying to call others "partisan shills."
I keep rereading the article and trying to find how someone could read it as partisan but I'm having trouble, can you point me to where you think the author is being partisan?
My summary of the article would be:
1.) Cutting off purchasing Russia oil would hurt Russia. It would also most likely cause a recession and energy supply issues for the West (namely, Europe).
2.) Target is to cut off Russia from the next generation of energy production (i.e. Green energy) since that is the future. This is the long game.
3.) US has increased supply to European allies but European countries have still increased their purchasing from Russia. But the infrastructure to completely replace Russia as energy supplier would take years and would not affect the current situation. (See #2 as the chosen long game choice)
4.)From the article: "it would take years, Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana concedes.
“The options are limited in the short-term,” said Cassidy, who has been among Biden’s toughest energy critics. “The massive amount of [capital investment] required to develop energy resources cannot be tapped off and on quickly. Everybody wants a solution right now, but you don’t just change on a dime.”
5.) Driving down the price of oil by moving towards greener energies is being seen as the best weapon against Russia. (see #2). Will take years.
To me, that clearly offers one possible answer to OP's question. But, it was literally the first google result so there may be better answers available if the OP wanted to search more.
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Clemson Icon [25412]
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Quicker tip: calling Hunter a partisan take when talking
Feb 28, 2022, 8:08 PM
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about Russia and Ukraine is being a partisan shill. Ukraine paid Hunter over 3 Million during a time they knew he was a crack addict. Anyone can go through bad stints, so I'm not banging on him, but no way he was functional, let alone worth that. But they are not stupid, and they paid him millions for something. Resistance to wondering what that was when considering why our energy policy is what it is, is being a partisan hack.
5 points to summarize that simplistic article. Surprised it wasn't another famous 14. To be fair, the article, lightweight as it was, was probably legit, dealing with whatever question it had in mind. Fine. What was being a partisan shill was trotting it out to answer the OP's question, which was something else altogether.
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Take a step back and look at your argument.
Feb 28, 2022, 11:08 PM
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You don't address anything in my post. Instead, your response is some triggered argument bringing up Hunter Biden again even though he has nothing to do with OP's question (or anything in the article I posted/summarized). Even if Ukraine paid him it has nothing to do with why we don't quit buying oil from Russia which was what the OP's question was. Unless there's some right-wing Glenn Beck-esque "connect the dots" theory that you all guys know about that I don't. Otherwise, it comes off as partisan and weird.
And just note, I have no resistance to anything to do with Hunter Biden. I don't care about him at all. If he's guilty of whatever you think he's done, then I hope he's found out and pays for it.
I'd much rather write five quick points about an article in summary that's accurate than a one-sentence summary that's not. (On that note when did I write this famous 14 points? I didn't get the reference)
How does that article not answer the OP's question? I know you're more than capable of giving a reasoned response, I've seen you do it a number of times in other posts.
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he promised to do anything in his power to reduce oil prices
Feb 27, 2022, 9:40 PM
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but just today eliminated ramping up us oil production. it's off the table.
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Paw Warrior [4752]
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Re: he promised to do anything in his power to reduce oil prices
Feb 28, 2022, 8:57 AM
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No he did not. Keep swinging.
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This isn't over yet.
Feb 27, 2022, 11:14 PM
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I know I won't criticize Biden if he does this. Can you say the same?
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Clemson Icon [25412]
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Honest answer. Thanks. I will say now I probably wouldn't
Feb 27, 2022, 11:35 PM
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criticize it, but it would depend on one thing, which I think it would with you also: Would doing so actually reduce Russia's sales of oil? There are reasons why it might not, and if that is the case, well, might as well buy theirs, until we figure out how to cut that off. But if we can, do it, even at the cost of higher prices.
I join in these debates as a diversion, but there is an aspect to this that would cause me to stop all comments and say to Biden supporters, "Carry on", and that is this: In a world of scarce resources, use the other guy's first. Is somebody in DC actually saying, "Look, we have developed huge oil reserves. Shut that down, which will cause us and everybody else to use the heck out of everybody else's"? If so, at least somebody is thinking both long term and strategically ... based on what I've seen of Biden and his appointees, I have a hard time picturing that, but okay.
I dont see anyone on the left on this board saying that. All I see is green talking points and articles about short term prices. But if there is a strategic reason that goes beyond ideology, I can dig it, I don't care who it is.
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Re: I ask again. Why isn't Biden pulling all US oil
Feb 27, 2022, 11:21 PM
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If we gain nothing more from this, perhaps it will be that the panty-waist greenies in this country realize neither Russia nor China gives a #### about climate change. Wishful thinking, perhaps, but call me Mr. Brightside.
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Because he's a Putin Puppet***
Feb 28, 2022, 10:19 AM
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Re: I ask again. Why isn't Biden pulling all US oil
Feb 28, 2022, 10:44 AM
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Putin is proud owner of several Hunter Biden originals.
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Re: I ask again. Why isn't Biden pulling all US oil
Feb 28, 2022, 10:46 AM
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Good question. We should start drilling and stockpiling.
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