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Orange Blooded [2278]
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Charlie Bauman taunted Woody Hayes?
Dec 11, 2009, 10:52 PM
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I watched that moment on TV as well as the replay several times, but I don't recall Charlie taunting Hayes, as another poster here seems to recall. Anyone else recall or can see on the replay anything resembling a taunt?
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Orange Blooded [3350]
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celbrated an INT. That's it. No taunting.***
Dec 11, 2009, 10:54 PM
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Orange Blooded [4367]
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I was there, he
Dec 11, 2009, 10:57 PM
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did not. Actually he was very surprised - as were Clemson fans as they learned what happened.
Woody got just what he deserved and the OSU Board was very embarrassed that night.
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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looking at the replay on YouTube...
Dec 11, 2009, 11:01 PM
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...Bauman was knocked down and looking the other way when he got up. I don't think he even saw Hayes until the punch...
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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something else interesting...
Dec 11, 2009, 11:04 PM
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...how the majority of our team stayed near our sideline despite about ten of our players being surrounded by about three times that number of OSU players. Probably wouldn't have been possible today to have prevented an all-out brawl....
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CU Guru [1367]
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I am pretty sure there was no board in 1978***
Dec 11, 2009, 11:06 PM
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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Board of Trustee's. Which is why he was fired by 10 a.m.
Dec 12, 2009, 5:22 AM
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the next morning. Ah, the computer age....
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Orange Blooded [4367]
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Actually they met
Dec 12, 2009, 11:07 AM
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immediately at the hotel and made the decision by 1 or 2 that night. Several of us were in the lobby of the hotel when they came out and we knew then he was gone. Then held the press conference the next morning for the official announcement.
He was told to call Charlie and tell him he was very sorry he did it. He eventually called Charlie but never told him he was sorry. The Clemson coaches were miffed to say the least, they found out after the conversation when Charlie told them he did not say it, but decided to just drop it. Woody paid a price for what he did and never got over it. He knew it was wrong. Just a good thing it wasn't Jim Stuckey - I think he would have punched back!!! hehe
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Orange Blooded [3677]
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I was there, just an excited player being clocked
Dec 11, 2009, 10:58 PM
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by a great coach whom time had come
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1st Rounder [695]
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He "celebrated" in the direction of the...
Dec 11, 2009, 11:06 PM
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OSU players/coaches (he was already on the sideline). But the direction he looked in was CLEARLY not AT Hayes.
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Game Day Hero [4433]
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i was proud of Jeff Bryant
Dec 11, 2009, 11:20 PM
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who grabbed Charlie and got him out of there instead of slugging Woody back....that would have been ugly if Jeff or Charlie would have decked the old man.....
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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notice also the Ohio State player...
Dec 11, 2009, 11:25 PM
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...who went out to check on Willie Underwood as we was being attended to by team doctors. How many times would you see that kind of good behavior today? Didn't seem to be any ill feelings between the players at all. Except for Hayes who didn't even shake hands with Ford.
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Orange Blooded [2278]
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Re: notice also the Ohio State player...
Dec 13, 2009, 2:29 AM
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Didn't realize it but Hayes was a Lt. Commander in the US Navy during WWII. A fan of military history, I think Woody saw the world in military terms, even in everyday life. I don't think he should be judged by the last incident in which he punched CB, but by the whole of his life. To his credit, on being informed that he was fired, there was no protest from him. He lived hard and he accepted it as the correct course of action. My favorite quote was when a reporter asked him why, after leading Michigan by 36 points, they went for two. Hayes answered; "Because I couldn't go for three."
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Orange Blooded [3677]
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Game Day Hero [4433]
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I remember seeing Danny
Dec 11, 2009, 11:32 PM
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giving an interview standing on a milk crate outside the locker room after the game....he looked like a young man back then and you could feel the tide turning for Tiger football after that game....'77 had a vibe but '78 with Coach Ford and especially the O line and the entire D, there was an attitude on that team, big time. those defenses played like madmen, gang tackling and celebrating on the ball after hits. gets me fired up thinking about it.
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Orange Blooded [3258]
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Oh what could have been!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!***
Dec 11, 2009, 11:41 PM
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Orange Blooded [3677]
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hair standing up
Dec 12, 2009, 12:02 AM
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man, those were the days... I know folks get tired of hearing about it. But I thank my lucky stars for being at The University during that time.
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Game Day Hero [4433]
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you aren't lying bro
Dec 12, 2009, 12:07 AM
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i thank my lucky stars that my Notre Dame fanatic father took me to the ND/Clemson game in DV in '77 when i was 9 years old. I've been a Tiger ever since. Younger fans cannot fathom the attitude we had on those teams for over a decade on the Offensive line and the whole Defense. We had the hittingest, nastiest Defense in the country in the whole decade of the '80's and the D in '89 was straight sick. We were one of the first schools to recruit straight speed on Defense. And they caused turnovers with vicious tackling. It started with Stuckey, the Judge, Bubba Brown, Kinard and ended with Simmons, Kirkland, McDaniel, Sheppard and Woolford and the other lunatics on D. It's not living in the past, it's the facts of what coaching ATTITUDE into talent will do instead of rocket science schemes.
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Orange Blooded [3677]
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You nailed it, sweet time.....tough as nails football***
Dec 12, 2009, 12:19 AM
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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I knew Charlie, he had no idea Hayes hit him until
Dec 12, 2009, 5:27 AM
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Jonathan Brooks told him moments later. Now, Jonathan Brooks was ready to hit Hayes, he saw it as it happened. JB was a senior.
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Clemson Icon [24717]
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I had Jonathon Brooks in a Statistics class. We hung out a
Dec 12, 2009, 9:08 AM
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little. Really nice guy. He stopped coming to class, though.
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Game Day Hero [4433]
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i was 9 in '77
Dec 12, 2009, 4:50 PM
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and Johnathan Brooks gave me his mouthpiece after the '77 ND game at DV...still got it....found him on the field after the game, i looked up at him and asked him for it and he said, "you want THIS??"...haha...i said yes and he took it off his facemask and gave it to me....my mom washed it for me and i still have it after all these years....those were the days.
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Paw Master [17831]
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The post had to come from one of the nut cases on T-Net.
Dec 11, 2009, 11:51 PM
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CB just made an awesome play. To suggest anything other than that would taint Danny Ford's amazing win in his first game as Clemson's HC.
Please pass out the Kool-aid!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Associate AD [1086]
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I thought it was Deondre McDaniel...
Dec 12, 2009, 12:04 AM
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My bad
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Paw Master [17831]
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That deserves my vote.***
Dec 12, 2009, 12:07 AM
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Most of the younger folks won't be aware of
Dec 12, 2009, 12:13 AM
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how Hayes had been deteriorating emotionally/mentally for a period of time. Not long before the incident with Charlie, Hayes had literally attacked a sportswriter during a press conference for asking an innocuous question. There were more issues and Hayes had been under pressure from the higher-ups at OhioSt to control himself. Him slugging Charlie was the absolute last straw.
And Charlie didn't taunt or even notice Coach Hayes until the punch was thrown.
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Orange Blooded [4745]
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Yep, he shoved an ABC cameraman on the sidelines during
Dec 12, 2009, 5:31 AM
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a game earlier in the season. The push knocked the cameraman down.
Some of the Ohio State players have said since that he was having medical problems that created the emotional outbreaks, but either way, he was out of control in 1978.
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Game Day Hero [4532]
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I attended the game &
Dec 12, 2009, 9:40 AM
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Charlie, who was a fraternity brother in SAE, picked the pass off. In a moment of victory he jumped up and raised the ball over his head and Woody hit him under his helmet and above his pads.I often thought that Art, the qb, had money on the game because it looked like he threw it staight to Charlie.
The next few years charlie got Christmas cards from Woody with his apology.
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Woods and Woody = two ###### bags.***
Dec 12, 2009, 10:11 AM
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Game Day Hero [4140]
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Re: Charlie Bauman taunted Woody Hayes?
Dec 12, 2009, 7:24 PM
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In Woody's warped mind, Charlie taunted him by intercepting the ball. I saw the play both live and in replays. There was no taunt.
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Virtuoso [499]
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Re: Charlie Bauman taunted Woody Hayes?
Dec 13, 2009, 3:52 AM
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Remember - no one was completely sure what had just happened. Only the initial telecast carried it live, and ABC had gone for a "cheap" hook-up which did not permit replays. Even Keith Jackson in the booth was unsure, for he has not been looking directly at it as it happened. All we knew for sure on the sidelines (I was there with Tiger Band) was that some sort of brawl had emptied both benches... Word got around pretty quickly, tho', about what it was thought to be all about. I seriously doubt that Bauman even had time to grasp what had just happened, much less taunt Woody Hayes afterward. And he certainly wasn't taunting the coach before - he was too busy making his first-ever interception, and being shoved out-of-bounds by the Buckeye players - right at their bench...
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All-Conference [409]
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we need more threads like this on TNet***
Dec 13, 2009, 4:19 AM
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Funny story about being in Columbus Ohio
Dec 13, 2009, 11:10 AM
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Attended a new software seminar for nearly a week in Columbus, Ohio, back in the early 90's as my company was upgrading the system. I got finished early on Friday, our last day, and while the other 4 guys in my group were still in class for the rest of the day, I went to a local sports bar for some lunch.
Walked in and noticed most of the guys there were of retirement age but friendly and talkative---wanted to know my name and why I was in town....that is until I took off my jacket and revealed a Clemson sweatshirt......Suddenly all these friendly old dudes wouldn't even look at me. While finishing my burger, I was looking around at all the memorabilia hung everywhere and noticed an entire wall that was a shrine to Woody Hayes.
I realized what was going on....finished my lunch, thanked everyone for the hospitality and left.....not a word was said in response.....lol
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