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Might want to enjoy this season
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This could easily be Dabo’s last. With all that is happening in college football, the media coming after him with every decision or move that he makes. Now, a number of fans questioning his recruiting strategy versus the portal. He has provided for his family very well and his past history almost, ALMOST guarantees him as head coach for a great many more years. I’ve stated on this board a few times in the last few years, he’s not going to the pros and I don’t think to another college program. I definitely see Dabo coaching young men in high school. He still loves his work and the students and too young for a rocking chair. Now………..with Clemson’s future possibly in a new conference, this would not be the opportune time to be working in a new coach. The 10-15% of you who want him gone because of the portal are going to be the same ones complaining when he resigns and moves on! Think long and hard on this one…..
Go Dabo Go Tigers
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 12:58 PM
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Saban retired because of nil and portal why not dabo?
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Saban was late 60's -
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May 20, 2024, 1:02 PM
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so theres that.
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actually, 72
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May 20, 2024, 2:07 PM
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adding fuel to your point.
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Re: actually, 72
May 20, 2024, 4:33 PM
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Regardless of his age i could see him getting sick of the unfair recruiting shenanigans which run contrary to his enjoyment of developing young men into useful members of society.
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Re: Saban was late 60's -
May 20, 2024, 4:36 PM
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… and he knew he didn’t want to learn a new trick … the game has changed. You can choose to play or go home … Due to age Saban decided to retire. Not sure what CDS’s decision was … he’s playing solitaire.
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To add to my point
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May 20, 2024, 4:38 PM
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… of CDS pulls it off and Clemson has a banner season … he we go down in history as a genius - if not …
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 1:04 PM
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You’re being overly dramatic if you think 10-15% of Clemson fans want Dabo fired.
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He created a strawman to make his argument
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May 20, 2024, 1:16 PM
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Dabo could start a new tradition of taking a dump on the PAW after running down the hill, and I'd still be a big fan.
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Re: He created a strawman to make his argument
May 20, 2024, 2:02 PM
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well, if he did that, you wouldn't have to worry about him being a coach anymore.
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I agree with much of what you said
May 20, 2024, 1:09 PM
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But I don’t see Dabo coaching on a high school level. He is more of a motivator than an Xs & Os guy. He has made enough money to be very comfortable. I could easy see him as a talking head on a network, maybe even his own show, or an in game announcer for college football. While they like to question him they all would love to have him on their network. He is great in front of an audience and microphone.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 1:09 PM
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Who are these 10-15%ers that you claim want Dabo gone? Some people may be frustrated that he doesn’t use the transfer portal but I haven’t seen anyone on here or elsewhere wanting him “gone”. BTW he’s not going anywhere. He knows he’s set and can do his thing his way at Clemson and get paid millions for it. Dabo is the only one I’ve heard threatening to leave if fans don’t like the way he coaches but that’s his schtick for getting people riled up.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 1:28 PM
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He meant 1.5%ers...
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 1:19 PM
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totally agree with your take on this!
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 1:22 PM
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Dabo will mention the "10-15%" while raising the next National Championship Trophy.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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I don't think it is that bad. He seems purposely defiant in some of his responses, knowing it will invite extra criticism. Perhaps that is by design as it reinforces the conversations he can have with HS recruits and their parents. He is selling that his program is different on many levels and he demonstrates that with his portal philosophy.
The guy is dumb like a fox and everything he does is pretty calculated. As I've said in other posts, if the results follow, then all will be well.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 2:16 PM
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I wish I could give you more than one TU! Dabo knows what he wants to sell and he is wily enough to know how to do it. In the end, NIL and the portal may be too much to overcome, but I don't doubt for a moment he has a strategy...
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With him now coaching professional football instead of college, professional
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May 20, 2024, 1:27 PM
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football without rules at that, I have thought several times I could see him saying "Enough" and going off to do something to do with amateur sports.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 1:37 PM
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What media? You Tube wannabe's coming from their mama's basements?
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 1:41 PM
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Those 10 to 15% are idiots!
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 1:47 PM
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Lol, I don’t know anyone who wants Dabo fired. I’ve actually heard a couple friends say they don’t care if he goes 0- 12 after winning two natys and six playoff appearances. I don’t share that belief, but I feel he should have a very long leash.
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Not sure about the timing
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May 20, 2024, 1:48 PM
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But, I think with all the changes Dabo has definitely thought about how much longer he's going to do this
The whole thing about getting rid of the “walk on” in college football might just be the straw that breaks his back
I think he's holding on until the NCAA gets blown up and they have a chance to reorganize.
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Dabo aint going anywhere, whether you like it or not.
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May 20, 2024, 1:51 PM
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I doubt very seriously that 10% to 15% want him gone. If I had to put a percentage on it, I would say less than 1%. After Danny Ford was fired, Clemson lost all relevancy for about 15 to 20 years. Dabo has produced multiple National Championships and eight ACC Championships. Anyone who thinks he is close to being let go is sorely mistaken. What are you even talking about.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 2:04 PM
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Good poster…… But don’t agree with the post at all. I have a little bit of insight here and he is going nowhere. Like 0% chance. So this isn’t a situation where this could easily be his last. I would also point out it goes against everything he has talked about for tthe future of CLEM FB.
The 10 to 15% is a made-up number just like the 1.5% is. I literally know of no one who wants him fired. And I know a lot of Clemson people. But the vast majority of hard-core , long-time IPTAY members I know and converse with want him to use the portal as appropriate.(I.e. lightly). Other teams like Alabama, Ohio State and Florida State and Georgia have benefited from it. No one wants to use it as much as Florida State does …just sprinkle in lightly as needed. Just like we have benefited from summer official visits. Remember, Dabo used to be staunchly against that as well. You can always improve and tweak things as the landscape changes.
To me, at least Dabo has earned the right to do it his way so I don’t worry about it much. But like when we used to not host summer officials, IMO, it is unnecessarily stubborn to play the game with one hand tied behind your back.
From what I know, I still think he will use the portal eventually. I thought it was gonna be this year. When that first transaction happens, I think you will see a slow acquiescence to adding a select few (1-3) each year barring some change in the transfer rules.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 2:09 PM
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The 1.5% are closet Coots.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Div II and Div III say come on over Dabo.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 4:17 PM
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Not for $11.5M/year...
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LOL...bless your heart!!!***
May 20, 2024, 2:24 PM
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I agree. Dont think he stays in this environment much
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May 20, 2024, 2:27 PM
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longer. I wouldn’t if I were him.
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I'll file this under "Things I won't worry about." When Dabo decides to hang it
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May 20, 2024, 2:27 PM
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up, more power to him. Clearly he will be missed, but no one coaches forever.
10-15% of Clemson fans do NOT want Dabo gone. That's nuts. Honestly I'm trying to think of a single post on Tigernet of "We need to part ways with Dabo" or "We should bring in so-and-so". None that I can think of in the past six years. Lots of fans don't agree with his portal approach. That's fine. We are literally the only school taking this stance. It's no surprise that some fans don't see the logic of it.
It would be interesting to see what Dabo would do if he walked away from College Football. I've always hoped he'd write a management/leadership book. He just has a different approach and such a focus on culture, I think it would be a great read. I can't imagine him doing broadcasting. I can see him coaching at a lower level but focusing more on some more charitable work. Who knows.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 3:01 PM
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I wouldn't blame him one bit if he walked away after this upcoming season. There are a bunch of ungrateful fans (a lot on this board) who don't understand what it takes to win at the highest level and Dabo has done it twice. Unfortunately that's not enough for them so they'd rather have the AD grab a name out of a hat to coach and hope for the best
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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May 20, 2024, 4:19 PM
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And there are way too many on here who think so much of themselves that they actually believe he really cares enough to be influenced by them...
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Have seen criticism and question lack of o-line portal efforts myself
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This could easily be Dabo’s last. With all that is happening in college football, the media coming after him with every decision or move that he makes. Now, a number of fans questioning his recruiting strategy versus the portal. He has provided for his family very well and his past history almost, ALMOST guarantees him as head coach for a great many more years. I’ve stated on this board a few times in the last few years, he’s not going to the pros and I don’t think to another college program. I definitely see Dabo coaching young men in high school. He still loves his work and the students and too young for a rocking chair. Now………..with Clemson’s future possibly in a new conference, this would not be the opportune time to be working in a new coach. The 10-15% of you who want him gone because of the portal are going to be the same ones complaining when he resigns and moves on! Think long and hard on this one…..
Go Dabo Go Tigers
But I have yet to see any posters seeking a new head coach. Please copy if you have evidence of the 10-15% who are seeking Swinney's ouster. It is a false premise.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 3:21 PM
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I think you are way off. I seriously doubt Dabo has gotten that soft. If he has then yeah it’s time for him to move on.
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10% to 15% want Dabo gone? Where do these numbers come from?***
May 20, 2024, 3:50 PM
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Just making stuff up
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May 20, 2024, 4:16 PM
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Obviously if you don't agree with 100% of what someone says or does then you are opposed to them and want em gone
But the real twist here is that now a few message board posters are driving Dabo out of coaching altogether.
Didn't realize he read Tigernet
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Re: 10% to 15% want Dabo gone? Where do these numbers come from?***
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Made up in ppls minds.
Just like the 1.5% number. Just haphazardly thrown out there with zero scientific/statistical proof. Saying that kind of stuff is divisive and best avoided. Every fanbase will have its distractors. You choose to coach in bigtime CFB @ a school where ppl deeply care...there will ALWAYS be some who dont agree with you. Comes with the job and the $11M contract. Never does any good to engage them publicly. NEVER. Rise above it and do what BV recommends......"Less is more...."
I know, I've seen it in several UF coaches and it rarely ends well. Completely unnecessary and usually self-inflicted.
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 4:11 PM
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If Dabo quits because of NIL money or the portal you find a bunch of Tigers will haul ask too. Season ticket holder since 1965 I’m gone also
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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Why would he quit over NIL $$$..he has publicly stated he has nothing against NIL
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
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Dabo is still speaking with optimism towards the future. He doesn’t like the portal mess but he also sees the potential for a course correction by college athletics back towards sanity. By not participating in the pay for play portal he insulates the program from the worst of that mess. He’s not a huge fan of NIL either but has come to understand how to atleast use it to retain the kids he’s developing. He’s most motivated by graduating players and that’s still something the program is doing successfully.
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Can you provide a link to a post where one fan said he/she wants Dabo gone?
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May 20, 2024, 4:35 PM
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We'll wait
Post from FGF and 11 warriors message boards don't count
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Hey GATORBOWL..your new name should be OrangeBowl
May 20, 2024, 4:59 PM
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and close to RoseBowl quality what with your astuteness of above expressed post about Coach Dabo.
U R Right On~
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Re: Might want to enjoy this season
May 20, 2024, 9:51 PM
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I will be laughing when the experts have been saying you have to use the portal and we go to the playoff this year.
We have 84 players on scholarship. We don't throw guys off the team like other coaches.
Its not how you get there as long as you get there.
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