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Attention:When Pgtbeauregard says "don't buy Gore-tex boots"
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Attention:When Pgtbeauregard says "don't buy Gore-tex boots"


Aug 9, 2013, 11:20 AM

you listen to him.

Backpacking is hard. Backpacking with your boots literally filled to the top with water is RIDONKULOUS.

WILL THEY EVER DRY OUT?

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"you need Gore-Tex boots because your feet can get bloody


Aug 9, 2013, 11:22 AM

when you are kicking your opponents" - RH Tig

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^^^Understands proper use of high tech outdoor gear^^^***


Aug 9, 2013, 11:53 AM



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soooo


Aug 9, 2013, 11:25 AM

it went well?

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Like making a left hand turn on Woodruff at 5:30PM


Aug 9, 2013, 11:26 AM

so, yes

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If/when I EVAR go on a shooting rampage


Aug 9, 2013, 11:27 AM

I guarandamntee it'll start on Woodruff.

around 5:30.

and my car will be found idling w/ it's left blinker on

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Mine will either be there, or 85 during 5:00 traffic...


Aug 9, 2013, 11:35 AM

I swear to god the next person that slams on brakes in the left lane because a cop has somebody pulled over on the right hand side of the road is going to feel my wrath.

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AKA 77 Southbound at 5:00***


Aug 9, 2013, 11:36 AM



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All things considered, yes.


Aug 9, 2013, 11:32 AM [ in reply to soooo ]

Carrying a pack of about 35 pounds up and down hills was unlike anything I've ever done before. It kicked my butt.

I'm definitely going to go again....but it will be with some changes. There are a lot of things in that pack I could have done without, that I was ready to throw off the mountain.

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Shouldn't have brought so many nudie magazines***


Aug 9, 2013, 11:33 AM



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don't forget the Vienna sausages and the Underwood


Aug 9, 2013, 11:34 AM [ in reply to All things considered, yes. ]

Deviled ham !

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Mountain House Lasagna...5 STARS WOULD EAT IF NOT CAMPING***


Aug 9, 2013, 11:36 AM



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did ya try the Chili Mac?


Aug 9, 2013, 11:37 AM

yeah, the lasagna's good too

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Yeah but it gave me heartburn. It was #3


Aug 9, 2013, 11:40 AM

1. Lasagna
2. Beef Strokinoff
3. Chili Mac





?. Eggs & Bacon (those eggs were so weird...filling but just ...weird)

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what size pack??


Aug 9, 2013, 11:37 AM [ in reply to All things considered, yes. ]

I've got a 45L, and don't have the luxury of bringing "unnecessary items"...then again, I've only recently done colder weather camping, so I've got more/bigger clothes (I sound fat) and a 20 deg bag...

those things KINDA take up some room


got pigs? SRS

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That's another thing...


Aug 9, 2013, 11:45 AM

I bought a big (I mean BIG) pack off of craigslist. It is a 90+15 (105 liter) pack.

The lady who fit me for it at REI said she had never seen one that big in a VERY long time.

I bought big, thinking that if I went with my son, I'd be carrying more of the stuff, and I'd need the extra space.

I had it down to only 32 pounds (before water) but it was still very heavy.

I didn't take my phone (camera).

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Try going Lighter...


Aug 9, 2013, 12:12 PM

And follow the advice on Backpackinglight.com forums


www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/index.html

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105L?????


Aug 9, 2013, 12:58 PM [ in reply to That's another thing... ]

that's for....what, smuggling messicans??? I mean, I doubt i'd go more than 2 fairly minimalist nights w/ mine, realistically just one night (which is all I've done, w/ a bunch strapped to the outside...

I think a 65L (maybe even 55+10) is in my nearish future...I couldn't imagine needing more

...and 32lbs is heavy?? that there, is a serious Q...

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Its a 90+15 Lowe Alpine.


Aug 9, 2013, 1:06 PM

35 pounds was comfortable walking a straight line. Ascending mountains was tough. I guess just not used to it.

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Re: Its a 90+15 Lowe Alpine.


Aug 9, 2013, 1:11 PM

Were you packing the whole house? My shoulders and back hurt for you!

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20% off


Aug 9, 2013, 11:26 AM

http://www.rei.com/outlet/category/29360729

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Cat on a tin roof, dogs in a pile,
Nothin' left to do but smile, smile, smile!!!!


EXTRA 20% off


Aug 9, 2013, 11:28 AM

got the email














AND $200 in GC's....BOOM

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Yeah, well. I seemed to have been overruled by others.***


Aug 9, 2013, 12:09 PM



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Clone have you read/listened to A Walk in the Woods


Aug 9, 2013, 1:12 PM

by Bill Bryson? If not you should get it, it is a hilarious account of a middle aged guy deciding he was going to (actually) hike the Appalachian trail.

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#ACCFTS


YES...felt like the guy's buddy who


Aug 9, 2013, 1:13 PM

got frustrated and threw a bunch of stuff out of the pack over the cliff...including food.

that thought crossed my mind on many occasions.

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Re: Attention:When Pgtbeauregard says "don't buy Gore-tex boots"


Aug 9, 2013, 1:54 PM

A lot of hikers myself included are going with low top hiking shoes.
Unless I'm heading to the Grand Canyon for a week, I'd probably look at low tops or hybrids. Lighter, supportive ( thought not like trad boot) and many will dry out over tonight.

Check the trail guide re; creek crossings too. One could be pretty comfortable with low tops and slap on a pair of gaiters on wet days or traverses.

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Depends on weather (but I don't do many creek/river


Aug 9, 2013, 2:16 PM

crossings in winter), but I always carry a pair of Tevas for the wet work.

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How much you charge for


Aug 10, 2013, 10:46 AM

peeing on doods?


(obscure movie reference)

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The tool is a powerful brain.


Inexperienced multi-day hiker, but why couldn't you use this


Aug 9, 2013, 2:26 PM [ in reply to Re: Attention:When Pgtbeauregard says "don't buy Gore-tex boots" ]



My hiking consists of day trips and trail running, so this is the only equipment I have...

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Re: Inexperienced multi-day hiker, but why couldn't you use this


Aug 9, 2013, 6:13 PM

Looks good unless you were carrying a heavy pack and needed more support, and or in very rocky terrain.

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Re: Inexperienced multi-day hiker, but why couldn't you use this


Aug 10, 2013, 8:59 AM

Gore tex is a pretty old product... The outdoor industry is always looking for better technology. Products that weigh less, wick and breath better, and water proof better.

Here are products that have achieved that:

The latest and greatest NEOSHELL, developed by Polar tec about 3-4 years ago. Neoshell breaths much better which reduces that clamy feel from gore tex. It is water proof and has feels more like soft shell than a nylon, so it is more comfortable as well.

eVent is another very good product. eVent is water proof and for a while breathed better than anything, until Neoshell was introduced.
GM bought the company and eventually dropped financing and many companies pulled away. Proprietary rules have changed and now Mountain Hardware and others use eVent, but have renamed it for their own products.

At one time the US Army conducted its own studies to determine which product water proofs and breaths the best. Their studies indicated that eVent kicked that others to the curb. So they wanted their jackets to use eVent. ( At the time that study was conducted, about 5 years ago, Neoshell was still in the lab and not on the market. So it wan't tested. Imo, Neoshell breaths better than eVent and they both water proof better than Gore Tex.

Long story short, some boot companies are using other products not only in jackets but footwear. Outdry, eVent are showing up in more footwear. Plus it isn't a bootie like goretex so it should weigh less.

It usually cost more, but a nice steak cost more than a hamburger at the burger chain.

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Aug 10, 2013, 10:09 AM

He ought to be...he's in the industry. Trust his advice.

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