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Orange Blooded [3233]
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Here's my issue with the SECSPN spin machine
Aug 17, 2013, 5:54 PM
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When a team is good, let's say a team like Clemson for an unbiased view  , they still manage to suckle the SEC teet by saying that the team is "built like a SEC team." If that's not a slap in the face to the team and that team's conference, I don't know what is.
I get it. The SEC does have the cream of the crop. There's no denying that the top 3 teams in the SEC would also be at the top of the other conferences. There's no denying that they've taken home the crystal ball the last 7 years. It's been a great run. That doesn't mean that all other conferences don't have great teams that deserve coverage as well.
Last year we, and Louisville, proved that teams from other conferences can beat a top SEC team. The SEC has bottom feeders just like any other conference, but to equate a season in the SEC to "running the gauntlet" would make it sound like the teams in the SEC are world beaters top to bottom.
As a Disney stockholder I'm conflicted, but it's to the point now where I can't even watch their coverage. I hope Fox Sports will see the unrest that's brewing across the nation and capitalize on their opportunity to grab the eye of the college football fan that's tired of the SEC lovefest. Competition will breed change and we can get back to fair and even coverage of the sport we all love.
PS: Go Tigers!
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Re: Here's my issue with the SECSPN spin machine
Aug 17, 2013, 6:00 PM
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I only watch games there. Any highlight package can be found elsewhere - Fox, NBC Sports networks. Let them choke on their Golden Calf called the SEC.
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Junkie [590]
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Re: Here's my issue with the SECSPN spin machine
Aug 19, 2013, 12:42 AM
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You do realize LSU finished 5th in the SEC!
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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not a team in the east was better, so that counts out ug&uf
Aug 19, 2013, 6:16 AM
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bama, yes, they were better, who else?
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110%er [6329]
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Errr, they lost to UF 14-6
Aug 19, 2013, 6:27 AM
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However beat TAM. I think at worst, they were 4th best team. I would put Bama, UF (since they lost to them) and maybe UGA better than them. Judging by how they both lost to Bama though, I think they are about the same as UGA.
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Hate it when facts get in the way of the party line******
Aug 19, 2013, 4:45 PM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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you can't go by that. we beat lsu. lsu beat usuc. usuc beat
Aug 20, 2013, 8:46 AM
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us. lsu was the 2nd best team in the sec, they had a bad game against uf's stout defense.
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huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 1:13 AM
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LsU beat Uga and TaMU, and were really only second best to Alabama...once again.
MOre spin...
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Re: huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 6:54 AM
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Just FYI here, but UGA did not play LSU last year.
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Edward Aschoff is an idiot... He makes HD seem professional.***
Aug 19, 2013, 6:40 PM
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All-TigerNet [11435]
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Yeah UGA has beaten one good team in 2 years***
Aug 19, 2013, 9:40 PM
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Thought we were talking about LSU...
Aug 19, 2013, 9:51 PM
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Didn't realize we were talking about the Dawgs schedule for the past two years...
Good luck this year and Go Dawgs!!
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Re: huh 777?
Nov 30, 2013, 7:34 AM
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23, I think you got GA Losing to LSU mixed up with them losing to SC. Ga. did not play LSU. I also got mixed up in stating that LSU finished 5th. According to the final polls, LSU finished 6th. I stand corrected!
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110%er [5249]
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110%er [5249]
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No, that's a bloggers opinion after bowl games
Aug 19, 2013, 5:58 PM
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In conference rankings, using only conference games, is how a team finishes in its conference
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All-TigerNet [11435]
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Cause UGA won the east***
Aug 19, 2013, 9:42 PM
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Re: huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 5:47 PM
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LSU finished 4 in the SEC standings final ranking has nothing to do with order of finish within a conference we've already had this discussion DA
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Re: huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 6:15 PM
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Show me where they finished fourth? They finished 6th with a 10-3 record. SC finished 4th with an 11-2 record. That is how it has it on the SEC site! They were tied in conference play at 6 an 2. the tie breaker is the BCS finish. Now who is the DA?
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110%er [5249]
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Wouldn't the breaker naturally be the head-to-head game?***
Aug 19, 2013, 6:58 PM
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SEC invented the BCS and have manipulated it since.***
Aug 19, 2013, 7:52 PM
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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Re: huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 9:19 PM
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Tie breaker is head to head moron. I'll explain it in simple terms so your little pea brain can understand. If two teams have the same record in conference the tie breaker is head to head. So had Georgia lost another game and been 6-2 that would mean your coots would have gone to the SEC championship game.
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Re: huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 9:59 PM
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Hey NUM.N show me 1 site that says LSU finished 5th or above. I have already wasted my time showing you two that shows them at #6. The SEC only recognizes 1st thru 6th East and 1st through 6th west. They do not combine east and west rankings without using final rankings. Either way, congratulations on beating the #5 or #6 team. Wherever SC ended up being ranked in your head, You lost to them!
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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6th? Well there goes the rings!!!!***
Aug 20, 2013, 8:52 AM
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Re: huh 777?
Aug 19, 2013, 5:39 PM
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lsu did not play Georgia last year, and they did play and get beat by florida.
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Orange Blooded [2468]
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I agree but ESPN has never had fair coverage. Before the
Aug 19, 2013, 1:28 AM
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SEC it was Ohio State & Southern Cal or the Big 10 in general. They always seem to pick a conference or school and cover them so much that the rest of the country gets sick of hearing about how great they are and how all other schools have no business playing football.
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Re: I agree but ESPN has never had fair coverage. Before the
Aug 19, 2013, 10:43 PM
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Very true. It was the Big 10 for a while. The year that Urban won his first title at UF all the talk throughout that season was OSU and UM. Before their gane that year ESPN was actually saying it might be the two best college teams ever. Once OSU won you had the first real talk of a rematch in the MNC. Then UF got some in and drug the buckeyes. That was when the switch occurred. They started saying look how good those teams look playing an SEC school. Its been all SEC ever since. Of course the MNC streak helps but its more than that. Its the money. If somehow a 1 loss SEC team gets left out for two undefeateds ESPN will treat it as if there is an asterick by the championship for not beating an SEC team. The SEC is their cas cow and they treat it as such. Will not change until other conferences start winning the MNC. Especislllally if they do it in the upcoming playoffs.
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Orange Blooded [2609]
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Its pretty good comic relief though***
Aug 19, 2013, 1:37 AM
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BentZero, I've opined previously that media types will
Aug 19, 2013, 6:14 AM
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latch onto any phrase they like, including this "...built like a SEC team" malarkey. Others like Michigan, Southern Cal, Penn State, Ohio State and their ilk may beg to differ.
No one doubts the prowess of certain members of the SEC; everyone outside the SEC doubts the superiority of ALL the SEC members. The same latter crowd, also, scoffs at the SEC homerism by the SEC "also rans."
Regardless, I'm only concerned with Clemson, and I don't view our games against the likes of Georgia or SC as being against the SEC. I see them as match-ups against top-quality and highly-rated opponents...games we need to win. Therefore, I say bring 'em all on...I want to see us go after the likes of Bama, Michigan, So Cal, Notre Dame et al.
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Re: BentZero, I've opined previously that media types will
Aug 19, 2013, 5:44 PM
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to bring on those teams you mentioned, we will have to schedule them as ooc games, because we will never be in the sec. but we will always like all other teams schedule cupcakes for money and wins. bowl games may give us a chance.
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its like they are having a fit...
Aug 19, 2013, 6:35 AM
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because two ap poll members didnt vote bama number one.
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All-American [554]
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Re: Here's my issue with the SECSPN spin machine
Aug 19, 2013, 10:00 PM
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Bama, lsu, uga, uf, a&m, and usc would all be a top 2 team if not the best in any other conference.
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Orange Blooded [3233]
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Re: Here's my issue with the SECSPN spin machine
Aug 20, 2013, 8:38 AM
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Same can be said about top teams in other divisions in other conferences. That's my point. ESPN acts like the only way a team can be good is if they're in the SEC.
BTW, your inclusion of A&M proves my point. How was A&M in the Big12 before they moved to the SEC? They were 7-6 in 2011. All of a sudden because they're in the SEC they're world beaters? If you believe what ESPN has to say the players on A&M gained 50 lbs of muscle and cut half a second off of their 40 times the morning they joined the SEC.
I get it. I understand that team can go 7-6 one year (like we did the very same year) and get it turned around the next year. ESPN just acts like TAMU is now this beast because they beat Bama and are members of the SEC.
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At the risk of repeating myself, stop watching ESPiN.
Aug 20, 2013, 8:10 AM
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Clemson, unique and inimitable.
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