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Game Day Hero [4540]
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SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:15 AM
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But doesn't look like they are interested in Clemson or FSU. As I said a while back, North Carolina is who they really want. Looks like UNC will be the first to bolt. Clemson's best bet may be the Big 12 since the SEC doesn't want Clemson (because they always have the coots) and the Big Ten requires that AAU status.
So Florida state and Clemson paved the way for North Carolina.
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Game Changer [1730]
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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the big 12 is a worse option than staying in the ACC.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 11:27 AM
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How so , Cooter ?
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 1:29 PM
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It’s a lateral move at best. The big12 has no title contenders.
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SEC may offer Notre Dame & UNC as option 1
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Jul 29, 2025, 2:20 PM
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But UNC and Clemson should be Option 2 ... unless Miami beats us out geographically. I do not see FSU as SEC-bound right now based on bad blood.
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Orange Blooded [2155]
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Here's a juicy quote I found on Sports Illustrated
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"North Carolina would appear to be an attractive target for the SEC not only in football, but arguably more for the school’s success in basketball, its association with Jordan Brand, its academic standing, and its reputation in non-revenue and Olympic sports."
Was it the fake degrees that sealed the deal for the SEC?
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Re: Here's a juicy quote I found on Sports Illustrated
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:44 AM
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It's about the money only and in the case of UNCheat it wouldn't matter if they didn't win a game as long as they get that area to feed them the cash $$$$!!!
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Hall of Famer [8504]
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The Jordan Brand is on the decline. The dude is over 60
Jul 29, 2025, 3:09 PM
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the kids growing up now write him off and their dads mostly never saw him play. Double digit decline this year, resale value on Jordan’s dropping- only going to get worse. Of course if another 60 year old dude is making the decision then they might overpay/think it’s worth more than reality. Not sure what the SEC would gain by UNC being associated with that at this point. 20 years ago - sure thing.
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110%er [3880]
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You do realize he still makes a ton of money with his brand?
Jul 29, 2025, 7:06 PM
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The JumpMan brand makes billions for Nike. The SEC want UNC’s basketball brand to put with KY. This is t about football.
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Hall of Famer [8504]
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yeah - he makes a ton of money but the brand is on the decline and will
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Jul 30, 2025, 12:04 PM
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continue to decline because it's based on a guy who gets further and futher away from his playing years every year. The NBA has had another generation of stars since he played and those guys are about to retire - Lebron, Steph, KD etc. Most kids today have no clue who Wilt, Kareem, Magic, etc. were. Same thing- brands built on individual stars all begin to fade over time and it's starting to happen to the Jordan brand - can't reverse time.
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Tiger Spirit [9595]
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:28 AM
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Seems crazy to say it but UNC is actually the most attractive ACC brand to outsiders. Even though they've never really even cared about football and had their greatest basketball runs occurred when their players were attending fake classes, everyone seems to want them more than Clemson or anyone else.
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:35 AM
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No they're not. It's myth made up by the sports media.
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Tiger Spirit [9595]
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:38 AM
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Could be. The sports media loves their baby blue cheaters for some reason.
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Orange Immortal [64690]
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 10:46 AM
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For some reason is C A S H!!!
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Rival Killer [2749]
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What cash could UNC bring to any conference?
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Jul 29, 2025, 1:37 PM
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They don't have the fan base and basketball doesn't bring in enough tv money to matter. This makes no sense whatsoever.
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CU Medallion [19115]
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They are tied to the Jordan Brand***
Jul 29, 2025, 8:24 PM
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Ring of Honor [22102]
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Re: What cash could UNC bring to any conference?
Jul 29, 2025, 9:41 PM
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UNC makes bank on basketball to the tune of around $19 million profit. That’s about exactly the same as we profited in football. Add in football and all other sports and UNC is more profitable overall. Sad stats.
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not true. UNC athletic rev 164mil, expenses 156mil, Clemson 193mil in rev, 181
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mil in expenses
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Paw Master [16160]
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Re: AAU Membership is not a requirement per this article...
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:47 AM
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Pretty sure this was one of the reasons that the School of Veterinary Medicine was created. Medical research is a huge addition when trying to qualify for AAU status. Clemson is strong in other categories for qualification but lacked in medical research, grants and funding.
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Playmaker [-96]
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:35 AM
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And the ignorant summer realignment posts continue. SMDH
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:48 AM
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I'm sure the fake UNCheat degrees would make a compelling case for them to join the SEC.
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Ultimate Tiger [35176]
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As I said awhile back when you 1st posted a while back
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:53 AM
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It's all horsehockey to generate clicks.
History has shown that the sec and big will never give any clues what they are really doing. In fact, they will straighy up lie to everyone until the deal is done.
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Re: As I said awhile back when you 1st posted a while back
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Jul 29, 2025, 10:58 AM
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You would think by now people would understand this.
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Ultimate Tiger [35176]
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If Sankey came out publicly and said they specifically
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Jul 29, 2025, 1:12 PM
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Do not want UNC then I would be 96% sure UNC is headed to the SEC.
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Orange Beast [6421]
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This is incorrect.
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Jul 29, 2025, 11:02 AM
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Big 12….lulz….
Listen to your coach.
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The Coots are welfare children in the SEC. Theyd be better off with CU!***
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110%er [3707]
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It's been long known UNC is the #1 target of the SEC and B1G
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Jul 29, 2025, 11:17 AM
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UVA may not be far behind.
Nothing is going to happen soon. It'll be status quo for the next 5-6 years.
I think UNC will go the SEC route because the SEC will go to desperate measures to win.
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Is the Big12 really an upgrade to being in the ACC?
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Jul 29, 2025, 11:18 AM
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You have no traditional matchups or rivalries with anyone in that conference. Is the money truly better long term compared to the ACC? That can impact our ability to recruit in those areas. I thought the only financial improvement for Clemson was if they go to $EC or B1G.
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Clemson will NEVER be in the Big 12.
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Jul 29, 2025, 2:09 PM
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Never.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 11:22 AM
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The Big10 and SEC are big enough.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 11:26 AM
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LOL YOU PEOPLE FALL FOR THE CLICKBAIT EVERY YEAR. IT IS JUST LIKE CLOCKWORK.
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Based on?***
Jul 29, 2025, 11:26 AM
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Lol who cares and screw the Big 12...might as well stay in the ACC
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 11:58 AM
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Sure thing Ironcoot.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 12:04 PM
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People still spreading these misconceptions that expansion is about television markets & that is why a UNC would be favored because they don’t currently have a footprint in NC. It no longer works that way & none of that matters. With streaming being so prevalent television markets don’t matter. It’s about total number of viewers & eyes on games not what market it is generated from. Currently no teams not already in the SEC or Big10 have more people watching their games on a weekly basis than Notre Dame, Clemson & FSU . And it’s not even close. I am not sure UNC is even in the top ten. Clemson viewership is in the millions where UNC struggles for a half a million viewers weekly. People need to stop looking at expansion & reasons for expansion the same way they did 10 years ago. It’s a whole new ballgame & television markets don’t matter like they once did. The emphasis is on total viewership & they don’t care which market they are coming from. Clemson will always be more attractive based on football & football alone. And, I still believe it’s all about football, no matter anybody else says.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 12:08 PM
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Coot you been watching too many Big !2 social media people. Those leftovers are desperate. Yesterday Miami and Louisville were going to the B12 according to them.
You need to re read the tarheel paper this week that UNC and Clemson are highest on the priority list for the SEC.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 12:14 PM
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Pack not PAC
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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I would rather stay in the ACC than go to the Big 12.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 12:22 PM
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I still say we going to SEC.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 12:21 PM
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Well now old IronCoot68, you know Texas and Oklahoma were never going to the SEC, right? Surprise! SEC could kick out USuC who have ALWAYS underperformed and get the real team from the Palmetto State! Go Tigers!!!!!!!
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Trolling COOT
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Jul 29, 2025, 12:40 PM
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....ignore him.
Just the usual illogical nonsense and hopeful glee that Clemson somehow gets left in the dust.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 12:42 PM
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North Carolina and Virginia make sense for the SEC
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Jul 29, 2025, 12:55 PM
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Why?
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 1:00 PM
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it would seem that UNC joining the sec would wind up being another Vanderbilt or a door mat sec team in Football. After some time this would probably drive down the viewership for them and less money coming in. As far as being a basketball school I don't believe they will be what they once were as guys jump early to the NBA now.
Maybe the sec is looking for fodder teams and not one's that would challenge the old hierarchy of the consistent winners.
Who knows. But when you draw the circle completed it will always lead back to money somehow.
As far as Clemson is concerned,
GO TIGERS
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 1:18 PM
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I think all the current conferences are dinosaurs. The only thing that will matter in the future is your team getting into the super conference that will be composed of elite teams/programs across the country. So even if Clemson is exiled to playing teams in the Midwest it will only be transitory before we are back playing traditional rivals from the Southeast in the super conference.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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Jul 29, 2025, 1:27 PM
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Anything other than the corrupt SEC.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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The super conference will have former ACC, SEC, Big 10, Pac 10, and Big 12 teams in it. But it will be a national conference. Hopefully however it will take in location and geography in scheduling from year to year.
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Legend [6713]
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 1:44 PM
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They may break everything up and model after the NFL and have 2 major conferences with divisional teams and have "x" number of playoff teams and have a "Super Team" Champion like a Super Bowl champion.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
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I am thinking that ND is ahead of the curve and the major players will be independent for football and be in the NFL lite setup.
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Clemson & Notre Dame are the best available in my opinion
Jul 29, 2025, 2:53 PM
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I personally think the deal for Clemson is done but it’s a matter of waiting to 2030.
I hope it’s the SEC but I personally think it’s with the Big10…..
We didn’t step out with the court challenge without knowing we had a deal coming. It settled the amount and the timing.
UNC fans for football aren’t much despite the smart move of getting Bill B.
Don’t believe UNC has better fan base than Clemson or more resources after the Covid virus originated at UNC comes to full knowledge. Clemson is a very strong brand, the strongest by far in the ACC, Miami market area is bigger but nobody there watches them or cares much about the canes. The media shows sellouts of their tickets but nobody is there for the game😂🤣
Moving the Orange Bowl made it worse.
FSU will find a landing spot somewhere too.
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Re: Clemson & Notre Dame are the best available in my opinion
Jul 29, 2025, 4:00 PM
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Honestly rather some of these ACC teams start investing in football to better position the ACC for the future. Some of our teams are a joke when it comes to college football.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 6:43 PM
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If SEC takes UNC then BIG10 should poach Clemson and others from ACC.
BIG10 could take UVA, NC State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, FSU and Miami.
Then the SEC can go eff themselves.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 9:33 PM
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Clemson is working on AAU accreditation.
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Re: SEC possibly expanding again
Jul 29, 2025, 9:35 PM
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That’s crazy. Big 12. They’re ranked behind the ACC. That’s a step down. Come on man. If Clemson said ok the sec would jump. Same with fsu.
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