Herbstreit

Sep 6, 2020, 5:40 PM

A friend of mine, who is a racially mixed minority, and I were traveling through California on our way to San Francisco. I was driving on the Freeway about 5 miles over the speed limit when a Sheriff’s deputy pulled up behind us and pulled me over. He approached the car as I rolled down my window. His 1st words were keep your hands where I can see them!!! I found this odd as I had never been told that by an officer before. He then told me to slowly retrieve my I.d. I complied, he then demanded to see my friend’s I.d.
My friend politely asked the officer why he needed to see his I.d? The officer replied “show me your I.d before I place you under arrest for failure to comply!!”
I said to my friend, “just show him your I.d so we can get out of here” he shook his head in disbelief and proceeded to reach into his pocket as the officer said to him, “slowly please”. After about 10 minutes the cop returned with our I.d’s and said we were free to go. No ticket, no explanation...
Another time, I was with my girlfriend, another friend of mine and his girlfriend. We were leaving a club around 2 a.m. heading back to my condo when we were approached by a very intoxicated man. The exchange started out friendly but got more confrontational as he became increasingly rude. We tried to ignore him hoping he would leave, i then asked him to leave? He then started spouting off racial slurs towards my buddy and his girlfriend and it was at this point I had had enough. The guy was walking his bike, so I grabbed it from him and threw it in the street. He lunged at me as I drove him into the ground, right as a police car was passing. The cop pulled over got out of his car, told all of us to stand with our hands against the wall. The cop then asked the drunk pos what happened he then slurred “ I was walking my bike when This f-ing racial epithet , racial epithet jumped me!!” My friend replied, that is not true officer!!” The officer snapped back, “I didn’t ask you so shut the #### up” not once asking the piece of #### to watch his language. Back up soon arrived and the original officer asked one of the other officers to handcuff my friend. Not me, the one who threw the guy to the ground, not the girls we were with, but the only minority male in the group. And I said nothing while it was happening!!!
Eventually, they separated us and got our stories individually. The guy I shoved was arrested and put in the paddy wagon, my friend had his handcuffs removed with no apologies from the officers.
I apologized to him for what had happened but never apologized for not sticking up for him when he was singled out because of the color of his skin. And I never apologized to my other friend when I told him to “just show him your I.d so we can get out of here.” And for that I feel guilt and regret. and as I write this, I’m in tears because I didn’t take a stand in either instance because I now know how that must have made them feel. And I have to believe that perhaps Herbstreit cried because at some point in his life, like me, he may have not taken a stand against bigotry when he felt he should have and now here we are, at this moment feeling like we have to take sides. This thing called “white guilt” is not guilt, at all, about being white but for not standing up against racial injustice when it was imperative that you did so and yes, justifiably feeling saddened and guilty.
And if you don’t feel guilt or regret, I have to believe, because you are a tiger fan, who like me, loves Clemson and everyone who represents our wonderful family, that you have always stood up against racial injustice, if given the chance. And for that I applaud you!
Go Tigers!!!!

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A situation happened to a couple of friends I worked with, one black, one white. They were stopped by multiple officers, and according to their telling, these officers weren't nearly as polite as the one you encountered. After they were IDed they were sent on their way, with no explanation. They found out later that a whole family had been gunned down because of a drug deal gone bad, or something like that. These guys were looking for the shooters, and I guess they weren't taking any chances.

I was once stopped by a local cop, that pulled me over told me to get out of my car, and then never asked for my license, but was very nasty and offensive, because It was not quite dusk yet and I hadn't turned my headlights on. He was a total jerk. The only reason I can think of to make him act that way was, that I had long hair, played my music loud and drove a loud car. He was a jerk, but I know that not all cops are that way. Some have been very polite and have even cut me breaks when I should have been charged for traffic violations.

There are good cops, there are bad cops, but the good ones unfortunately, take the rap along with the bad ones. They have a very stressful job, not ever knowing if the situation they are involved in is going to get them killed. It's a job I wouldn't want.

Not saying what happened to you was right, but I try to give them the benefit of a doubt.

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So you assaulted an elderly, intoxicated homeless man...

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Every citizen has unalienable rights

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So comply no matter what they do or say?

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What stats are those?

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You are exactly the problem, djsveven - all you think of is

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