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New Story: Venables says kickoff coverage teams were embarrassing in 2015
Aug 4, 2016, 10:09 PM
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Quite possibly the most significant part of the interview...***
Aug 4, 2016, 10:13 PM
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Dynasty Maker [3354]
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Re: Quite possibly the most significant part of the interview...***
Aug 5, 2016, 7:55 AM
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It cost us a national championship last year.
Aug 4, 2016, 10:20 PM
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And probably should have lost us another game or two, if not for how dynamic the rest of our team was. Hopefully this gets fixed within the next few weeks, because there is no excuse to lose games because of poor special teams play. It's not about talent, it's about discipline and heart.
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Orange Blooded [2460]
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Re: It cost us a national championship last year.
Aug 4, 2016, 11:01 PM
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The kickoff did not cost us the championship last year. It was the combination of kickoff, onside kick that caught every one off guard, and the fact that we couldn't cover a friggin tight end across the center of the friggin field. We could have come back from any one, even two of those. All three sealed it.
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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the middle seems to be our achilles heel whether it be tight
Aug 5, 2016, 7:01 AM
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ends or scrambling QB's, those are heart breaking plays
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Orange Blooded [3881]
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I'm anxious to see if the crowd boos if they line up in that
Aug 5, 2016, 6:59 AM
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same formation used last year. Coaching 101 for kickoffs is lane coverage and we gave away 3 right off the bat hoping to rely on our speed and agility to make up for it but found out you can gamble only so long before you lose and I still feel it.
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Re: I'm anxious to see if the crowd boos if they line up in that
Aug 5, 2016, 8:53 AM
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I don't like our formation at all. We are leaving about a third of the field open and trusting that our kicker is going to put is in the opposite corner. Find someone to kick it out of the back of the end zone every time, and I
won't care how we line up.
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Who was the kick blocker that Venables is so high on?***
Aug 4, 2016, 10:22 PM
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They were talking about Dex....***
Aug 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
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Legend [6896]
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thanx, that had to be in practice (spring?) what was funny?***
Aug 4, 2016, 11:11 PM
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Re: thanx, that had to be in hat was funny?******
Aug 4, 2016, 11:17 PM
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OMG, that hurt..had great O & D but Worst ST in Nation!
Aug 4, 2016, 11:20 PM
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GeeZ...how could DaBO allow this to go on thru 2015!
He failed the Team!
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Re: New Story: Venables says kickoff coverage teams were embarrassing in 2015
Aug 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
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He's sure right about that!!! Was always scary.
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Re: New Story: Venables says kickoff coverage teams were embarrassing in 2015
Aug 4, 2016, 11:22 PM
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"... like your hair on fire..." "Put the hammer down. Taste blood. Suffocate the opponent." I love this guy.
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Re: New Story: Venables says kickoff coverage teams were embarrassing in 2015
Aug 5, 2016, 6:19 AM
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I watched that interview last night and thought the exact same thing. I love the character of this man. He is so direct during an interview. And if he does not like the question he simply says I am not going to answer that instead of talking around the question. It makes me laugh every time.
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OH BOY!!!!!! The orange pumpers are not going to like those
Aug 5, 2016, 6:34 AM
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facts....Finally a coach that gets it!!! Love you Coach V
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Hasn't BV been in charge of KO team all along >
Aug 5, 2016, 7:19 AM
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That'd make it more like,the coaches not in charge weren't gonna call out a co worker. So ,finally, the guy in charge spoke out. It was his place to, no one else's.
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Re: Hasn't BV been in charge of KO team all along >
Aug 5, 2016, 10:08 AM
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Where does Danny Pearman fit into all of this?
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BV Is Exactly 100% Correct
Aug 5, 2016, 6:44 AM
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Hope that gets fixed.
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I really would like to see this get fixed
Aug 5, 2016, 7:17 AM
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It was the only weakness in an otherwise flawless game
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Re: New Story: Venables says kickoff coverage teams were embarrassing in 2015
Aug 5, 2016, 7:56 AM
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the part of the game that every tiger fan heart stops.
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people are so highlight-snapshot-talking point oriented
Aug 5, 2016, 10:51 AM
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these days.
To say that "Special Teams cost us a National Championship" is pre-ponderously ridiculous.
Yes, KO coverage was terrible, horrendous, and downright scary.
But KO coverage gave up 18 points all year - the same number of points scored by Mike Bellamy in his one year at Clemson. The same.
And did Mike Bellamy win the ACC title? Did Mike Bellamy beat Virginia Tech at their place? Did Mike Bellamy set the tome for the season with 75-yard jaunt?
KO coverage gave up 6 points in the Natty. The same points scored by Greg Hegel on FG's. Did Hegel "almost win" the Natty?
People need to get off it. Find a way to develop a more rounded attitude towards life,
starting with, "I don't have to blame everything bad on someone or something. I don't have to have a whipping post."
Good Lawd people.
THE TEAM lost the Natty. THE TEAM. THE FAMILY.
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Re: people are so highlight-snapshot-talking point oriented
Aug 5, 2016, 1:09 PM
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It certainly contributed to it. And it was the most atrocious part of our game....all year long.
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yes, it contributed to the loss... and unnecessarily so....
Aug 5, 2016, 4:26 PM
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but ST didn't "cost" is the game,
because covering a TE would be good too,
or not kicking FG's on 3 possessions,
or not throwing an INT,
etc. etc.
I still think the key stat was when we scored:
we scored 4 TD's and 2 FG's on 6 possessions when we were behind (read: sense of urgency).
we scored 1 TD, a missed FG, and 3 punts in 5 possessions when we were tied (read: some urgency).
we had 2 punts and and INT on the 3 possessions we were ahead (read: not so much).
that speaks to "killer instinct" too a la BV's comments.
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Re: yes, it contributed to the loss... and unnecessarily so....
Aug 5, 2016, 4:36 PM
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Agree. We must learn to step on people's necks and not get complacent.
St, not covering the tight end or tackling him, a luck catch , cost us the game. I figured either qb would of had a pick of 2. So when you factor that in, we lost because of nuances
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Obviously many plays contributed to the outcome of the game.
Aug 5, 2016, 6:23 PM
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Nobody is discounting the fact that we can point to many things that we could have done better against Alabama. But you can't deny that our offense and defense did more than enough to win the game, and if not for special teams blunders we would have probably won the game. We can argue over semantics all day, but if we had addressed stupid special teams issues at some point throughout the year we would have beaten Alabama.
We weren't even ready for the onside kick. How can you not at least be ready for that possibility?
If you aren't willing to mostly blame the loss on special teams, then you are obviously okay blaming a defense which largely shut down Alabama and an offense which moved the ball at will on them. I feel that those two units did more than enough, and I won't blame them for the loss - especially since the special teams were atrocious as usual.
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CU Guru [1150]
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If you kick it in the endZone everytime
Aug 5, 2016, 4:33 PM
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You won't have any problems to worry about. Put em at the 25
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