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Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...
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Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:29 PM

Now you are all flooding in with your thoughts.

Umass cannot miss and we have struggled to make. It's as simple as that.

It's 1 game 3,000 miles from home. I wouldn't mail in the whole season based on 1 half!

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:31 PM

Yep it is pathetic. Sadly I expected it. As soon as this group ran into a slight speed bump the losers would show back up.

Cedceb did not let me down.

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:32 PM

slight speed bump
wow

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:33 PM

Glad to see you are alive.

I am shocked you were no where to be found the previous 3 games.

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:38 PM

the 2 OT exhibition thriller? Lenoir Rhyne?
that pretty much summarized all i needed to know about brad in his SIXTH year
brownlee is a perpetual speed bump
sorry bro, just the facts

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:39 PM

lol you focus on an exhibition game and not the 3 wins that actually count.

Like I said you are pathetic

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Seriously you are braggin about beating


Nov 23, 2015, 10:43 PM

NC-Central, UTSA, and Texas Southern? Is that what we have been reduced to? That's like us bragging about beating App State in football. It should be expected. Let's see what happens when we start ACC play.

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Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating


Nov 23, 2015, 10:46 PM

Congrats you know nothing about basketball if you think NCCU and Texas Southern are bad programs.

Also great job only showing up after losses.

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I'm not saying they are bad programs


Nov 23, 2015, 10:48 PM

but they are small time schools. Would any team in any Power 5 conference not expect to beat them? How does the program's budget compare with Clemson's?

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Re: I'm not saying they are bad programs


Nov 23, 2015, 10:54 PM

Well seeing how Texas Southern beat Michigan State last year no.

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don't wanna confuse u with the facts....


Nov 23, 2015, 10:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating ]

but your superpowers tex southern is 0-4 with last loss to howard, and....

hold on here.....

gather yourself....

nccu just took in in the gut from liu-brooklyn

anything else u got?

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Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating


Nov 23, 2015, 10:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating ]

Beating programs from 1 bid leagues is to be expected. Right now though, Brownell is looking at his 12th loss to a mid major program, when his predecessor had 2 in 7 years.

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Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating


Nov 23, 2015, 11:02 PM

Hey look another name that has been missing.

Glad you are a live.

Only showing up to ##### and moan is pathetic.

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Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating


Nov 23, 2015, 11:07 PM

That is literally all you have. I will post good job next time. I didn't watch any of the first 3 games.


My issue, as you know, is with no specific game. It is with where our program is. We are in our 6th year of Brownell and seemingly not close to the NCAA Tournament. We returned 4 starters last year and couldn't make the NIT. There is a clear pattern of this team not improving, especially compared to what OP was able to build here.

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Re: Seriously you are braggin about beating


Nov 23, 2015, 11:08 PM

It is all I need you are a pathetic "fan"

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How so?***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:12 PM



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Re: How so?***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:12 PM

Real fans dont only show up during losses.

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Re: How so?***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:15 PM

I post after wins too. Haven't this year since I haven't watched a game until about 8 minutes of today.

Real fans also don't take kindly to their team quitting rather than playing in the CBI. Real fans also don't make excuses when the team has the same problems every year.

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Re: How so?***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:17 PM

bull ####.

It was the same #### last year out of you and your little group.

Never around for wins always here bitching during losses.

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Hope you enjoy the state of the program then***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:18 PM



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Re: Hope you enjoy the state of the program then***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:21 PM

Ive never said I was happy with the current state of the program.

I have said the complete opposite. I however am not a pathetic loser who only shows up during losses.

I have said numerous times Brownell gets this year and next to get back to the NCAAT or he is gone.

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Always with the personal attacks***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:23 PM



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Re: Always with the personal attacks***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:26 PM

calling a spade a spade. Way to ignore the fact that I am in fact not happy with the state of Tiger Basektball.

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Re: Always with the personal attacks***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:29 PM

You trashed Leggett after losses all the time, so same thing here.


I agree Brownell gets 2 years, but he has done nothing to deserve it. It makes the most sense to cut ties and hire Will Wade.

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Re: Always with the personal attacks***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:30 PM

Not the same thing at all. I was here after Clemson Baseball games win or lose.

I magically have not seen your name at all this year minus the exhibition game and the Ajukwa transfer.

magically those were two negatives and magically you showed up.

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Re: Always with the personal attacks***


Nov 23, 2015, 11:36 PM

It's 3 weeks into the season. I will be sure to post "good job beating the directional school from a 1 bid league" next time in the one thread created to discuss the game, so that I won't be called a loser.

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games... ]

If you knew college basketball, you would know you can't put much stock into exhibition games...

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 11:00 PM

....umm.....true.....but....

its not like brownlee was running the walk-ons out there....

BOTTOM LINE:

brad's contract / buy out / LJ renovation so he gets another season off the hook

is the only reason he's still around

man, i miss boogie mcintyre, tony christie, harold jamison....

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Lighten up Francias....


Nov 23, 2015, 10:31 PM

many of us have been occupied with our #1 ranked football team.

I tuned in tonight and disappointed with what I see. Is that allowed? I am huge Brownell fan btw. Go ahead and trash me....

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Re: Lighten up Francias....***


Nov 23, 2015, 10:33 PM



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Last I checked, we were still #1...:


Nov 23, 2015, 10:34 PM [ in reply to Lighten up Francias.... ]

So you are only occupied with that when we we winning in Bball? Yet when we have an bad half u are suddenly no longer occupied?

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I guess you missed the point...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:56 PM

we are in a lull in btw some good football so I checked in tonight. Not liking what I see, forgive me if I missed the 3 cupcakes before tonight.

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Re: I guess you missed the point...


Nov 23, 2015, 11:27 PM

Our other games have been on Thursday, Friday, and Sunday.

magically Tiger Football interfered with your viewing on those days.

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Have you watched us play the last few years?


Nov 23, 2015, 10:32 PM

Every year gets worse.

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Re: Have you watched us play the last few years?


Nov 23, 2015, 10:32 PM

glad to see you are alive. i was worried about posters like you after the first 3 games.

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more like 2000 miles***


Nov 23, 2015, 10:32 PM



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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:33 PM

I was at NCC and Texas Southern and I thought we could easily win this tournament but we have got to make some buckets soon to start out the half and play some D we turned it on against Texas Southern so maybe we can do the same. Grantham has to score for us to win.

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Re: nothing funny about the way we are playing tonight


Nov 23, 2015, 10:39 PM

doing nothing well. we look lost

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 10:48 PM

Simple we knew the first 3 games were meaningless. We all know we will be cellar dwellers this year when ACC play begins, yet you and others will be urging everyone to just give Brownell more time.

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If you took the first 3 teams we played and


Nov 23, 2015, 10:53 PM

Combined their rosters you wouldn't have a average ACC team. Clemson isn't very good and the team has gotten worse every year since Brownell took over.

He can't recruit it's obvious,the of South Carolina had four 4 star basketball players with ties to this state this year which is rare, he got zero. UNC 1, USC 1, VCU 1, and Yale 1. He brings no energy to the program and fan support has declined. I'm sure he's a great X's and O's coach like some of you say, but this game is about players and he can't get ACC talent.

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Re: If you took the first 3 teams we played and


Nov 23, 2015, 10:54 PM

Hudson was a 4 star as well.... So was Grantham and Blossomgame.

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so he's not coaching them up?


Nov 23, 2015, 10:57 PM

pick your poison.

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Re: so he's not coaching them up?


Nov 23, 2015, 11:03 PM

I just named 1 junior 1 freshmen and 1 sophomore.

2 of them are our best players.

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Re: If you took the first 3 teams we played and


Nov 23, 2015, 11:05 PM [ in reply to Re: If you took the first 3 teams we played and ]

We have 3 on our roster, go check the rest of the ACC. We will lose to UNC, Duke, Miami, FSU, NC St, ND, Louisville, UVA, Pittsburgh, and Cuse.

If you're happy with the direction of the basketball program under Brownell then that's your right, but I'm not happy and I think this will be his last season.

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Re: If you took the first 3 teams we played and


Nov 23, 2015, 11:07 PM

And how many did OP ever have?

Guess what not very many.

Clemson basketball has never recruited a ton of 4 star guys.

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He sure as hell had us competing in the ACC though


Nov 23, 2015, 11:10 PM

The only thing that matters are wins.

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Clemson takes pride in being great football fans, but has about the worst basketball fans.


Nov 23, 2015, 11:29 PM

Overall, our fans expect a great team yet are unwilling to put up the money or fan support basketball needs to be a competitor. Pretty low basketball I.Q. as well, as evidenced by most of the basketball posts on TigerNet.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


I disagree.


Nov 24, 2015, 8:30 AM

I think our fans are as good as any other school's basketball fans. It's the product that's the issue. Our fans aren't stupid. If we had a consistently quality program, people would be commenting how great our fans are.

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I haven't posted much on bball, but i love me some tigers.


Nov 23, 2015, 11:29 PM

I got spoiled.. FR year was our year with Boogie, Big O, Buckner, even Wideman and Iturbe. Been kind of downhill since.

I always hold out hope, but overall see a stagnant program.

I'm not smart enough to know if Brad is the answer or not. I am smart enough / experienced enough to have seen and not get excited over even a 10-0 start. Its a long season and these early games build experience but don't tell us a lot about the team. It takes time and consistency to gain persepctive.

So with a #1 football team and more early season bball that won't tell us too much about this team, I'll follow the games live when possible and the boxscores otherwise.

Cheers, and Go Tigers.

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Nov 23, 2015, 11:35 PM

Man we SUCK . How anybody defends brad and this team is pathetic .

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Re: I haven't posted much on bball, but i love me some tigers.


Nov 24, 2015, 8:24 AM

Shocking another name that was no where to be found until we lost.

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Re: Funny, many of you haven't posted a single thing in our first 3 games...


Nov 23, 2015, 11:45 PM

And some oh those that have given up on Clemson basketball and Brad B. were probably crying when CTB (well half the teams lost today ) was fired after 9 mediocre seasons . This season ain't over and go ahead and give up if you want to .
I may be disappointed , but I ain't giving up .

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The basketball team will be (and should be) judged on what


Nov 24, 2015, 8:08 AM

happens in Conference play. Anything before that point is pretty much a glorified scrimmage in my mind. I give Coach Brownell a bye on this year, having no actual home games. Next year will be his judgement year, IMO. If he is still not getting it done at that point, it will be time to move on.

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Re: The basketball team will be (and should be) judged on what


Nov 24, 2015, 8:11 AM

That is pretty much what any of his "supporters" have been saying. We still get attacked for posting logic though.

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UMass is a Sweet 16 team at worst


Nov 24, 2015, 8:18 AM

Not a bad loss at all. BB needs time to turn around the mess OP left.

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LOL 5 years isn't enough?


Nov 24, 2015, 8:41 AM

We're an ACC school, we should have no issues recruiting top talent. We certainly wont be stealing recruits from the likes of Duke and UNC, but there should be plenty of amazing players itching for a chance to showcase their talents in the ACC. Yet somehow we've continued to get worse each year Brownell has been here and we have people transfer out every year. Brownell has had plenty of time to turn things around and it's time for someone new to take a shot at making this a program that can compete in the ACC.

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ROH


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