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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 11:14 AM
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Feeling slightly reserved on this one. Doesn’t feel as flashy as picking up Garrett Riley, but not many things do.
Tom Allen is a lesser known name but he has a history of marked improvement at every stop he has made in high school all the way to big time D1 football. His resurrection of the USF defense, while in the American, was the biggest turnaround in the country. If he makes a similar in-house improvement with our defense, we will be racking up the hardware.
Hoping this one gets much sweeter with time!
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:53 AM
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picking up BV wasn't flashy either
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BV was a big time splash hire.***
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:59 AM
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Re: BV was a big time splash hire.***
Jan 14, 2025, 8:49 AM
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I disagree. Many including myself had reservations.
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Re: BV was a big time splash hire.***
Jan 14, 2025, 9:05 AM
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I remember OK fans coming to TNET thanking us for taking him off their hands. Said he was holding them back.
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 11:18 AM
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No one can know if this is a home run hire at this point. Seems really good on paper but check back in 2-3 years for an answer.
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Ring of Honor [22183]
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 11:19 AM
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Ask me after the LSU game...
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Orange Phenom [14184]
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I don't think that's long enough
Jan 13, 2025, 11:22 AM
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Our defense stunk in Brent's 1st season. You could see significant progress in 2013, but it wasn't until 2014 in his 3rd season that we had a vintage Venables defense.
Hopefully this rebuild won't take as long, but it's still worth pointing out that some patience may be required.
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Oculus Spirit [39374]
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This One Can't Get Much Worse***
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:24 AM
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Re: I don't think that's long enough
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
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The ink on the contract isn't even dry and we are already hedging our bets?
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Orange Phenom [14184]
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Thats not what I'm saying at all***
Jan 13, 2025, 11:36 AM
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CU Medallion [18000]
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think one big issue with brents
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Jan 13, 2025, 12:02 PM
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first year is we didnt quiet have the horses. we have the horses on this team just need a dc with a brain to use them properly
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Re: I don't think that's long enough
Jan 13, 2025, 12:05 PM
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Feels like there's still a significant talent gap from what our 2025 team will have compared to the 2013 one.
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Re: I don't think that's long enough
Jan 14, 2025, 8:50 AM
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This isn’t 2013 teams are not on the same level.
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Paw Warrior [4689]
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:19 AM
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Very good hire!
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 11:22 AM
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You will see a big jump in performance with DF.
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Orange Blooded [2311]
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 12:42 PM
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We will see after the first couple games especially the LSU game. At least we are playing that one at home.
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Orange Blooded [2391]
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 11:22 AM
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Good hire. Definitely a big upgrade from Pork Chop.
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Dynasty Maker [3425]
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Maybe we can stop throwing darts at Wes Goodwin now?
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:56 AM
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Some of you act like he was a bad dude or that it was personal. The dude did the very best he could and devoted a chunk of his life to Clemson. It didn’t work out, but no need for all the silly name calling etc.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [99922]
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He is for half of Tnet until...
Jan 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
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someone scores on a TE pass for 20+ yrds.
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
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I do not know enough about him to say anything. Will continue to read the comment on here.
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:31 AM
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Check out that clip that Row86 just posted. I loved the fire from his pre-game locker room speech.
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:25 AM
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Not a great hire or bad hire. I would give it a solid C+
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Clemson Icon [24083]
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:37 AM
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Gville85 coot. Nobody cares what you think.
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Game Changer [1804]
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:28 AM
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Love the hire more than Jim Leonard . I feel like he will bring toughness as well as put his best players in a position to succeed.
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Excellent hire. Homerun would have been Jim Leonard in my opinion, but we have to manage our expectations. I’m sure we would all love a Venables type of hire but that isn’t realistic most years. JL will have NFL opportunities and won’t want to leave for a college gig. So who else is out there? Tom Allen should be an improvement from WG. If he can consistently field a top 10 defense and Riley can continue making improvements on the offensive side, Clemson will be right back in the hunt. Even a slightly better defense this year could have led to a deep playoff run. We aren’t far off
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:33 AM
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At least he has some type of qualifications that warrant his selection. Time will tell if this works.
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Game Day Hero [4464]
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Jan 13, 2025, 11:57 AM
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He does kinda look like he works as a business consultant or maybe an employment attorney
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Jan 13, 2025, 12:11 PM
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lol, yep. Upgrade for a guy who looks like he plays PlayStation and eats Doritos all day
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Jan 13, 2025, 12:06 PM
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He’s a great fit to improve what we have lacked: aggressive blitz-heavy approach, stout against the run. Also a linebacker coach. His weakest point is the DBs and we have a great DB coach in Mike Reed
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Hall of Famer [8143]
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Jan 13, 2025, 12:07 PM
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We got exactly what we asked for. Experienced coach from a power five school. Not sure how anyone could be dissatisfied with this hire. All he really needs to do is figure out our run defense, and this could be another playoff team next year. If Guess Goodwin would’ve stayed on board, we may have had the worst rush defense in the nation next year
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Jan 13, 2025, 12:08 PM
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Any experienced coach would be better than the one we had the last few years. I always liked Saban's approach of hiring experienced coaches, many of which had prior HC experience - there is so much more they are aware of on a weekly basis, not just x's and o's, but overall game planning, recruiting, donor satisfaction, etc. Tom Allen also seems to share some of the core principles that fit the model of the program Dabo has built. I vote to give him time and an opportunity.
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National Champion [7925]
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I will be optimistic for the future with Allen as DC
Jan 13, 2025, 12:38 PM
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Only time will tell but I trust CDS, the AD, to help make Clemson better in the areas needed.
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Re: POLL: Is Tom Allen the right hire?
Jan 13, 2025, 12:41 PM
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Will he be elite like Brent? Time will tell.
Will he be better than Wes? 100 percent.
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Not a HR hire...
Jan 13, 2025, 3:08 PM
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But anything is better than what we've seen the last 3 years imo.....
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Game Day Hero [4464]
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Jan 14, 2025, 8:42 AM
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Not bad, 2/3rds think it’s a home run hire and only 2 disapprove. I’d say that’s pretty close to a landslide in TNet world
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Dabo chose him, so he has to be a great hire.
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Jan 14, 2025, 8:53 AM
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After all, Dabo has never failed at anything.
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Game Changer [2027]
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Dude, does this not get exhausting?***
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Hall of Famer [8143]
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Jan 14, 2025, 8:55 AM
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It's always hard to tell until we actually see. I'll say it's def an upgrade and has to potential to pay off big time. I like the hire
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