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Top TigerNet [30320]
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Without Due Process, we are no better than ...
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Started this for Cata so his carpal tunnel wouldn't flare up.
Your welcome.
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Well, he blocked me
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So I have nothing left to live for.
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Ring of Honor [21764]
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Putin***
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Ultimate Tiger [34742]
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If you don't like our country and our Constitution and ...
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Apr 18, 2025, 8:27 AM
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our laws, then why don't you leave?
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Ring of Honor [21764]
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There also seems to be a disregard & disdain for theCourts interpretation of law
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Apr 18, 2025, 9:02 AM
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As opposed to Trump’s administrative interpretation of law.
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Paw Master [17043]
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Student loan "forgiveness" says "hello".***
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Ultimate Tiger [34742]
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Yeah that was bad too, but also not the same. If your only....
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Apr 18, 2025, 9:23 AM
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retort is what about blah blah, then you know you're wrong.
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Paw Master [17043]
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The U.S. has zero jurisdiction in El Salvador.
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Apr 18, 2025, 9:26 AM
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This is one point the board geniuses never discuss. Even if he is sent there by mistake, he is not a U.S. citizen and if El Salvador states that they will not place him illegally back into the U.S., that is their prerogative.
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National Champion [7560]
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Re: The U.S. has zero jurisdiction in El Salvador.
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Apr 18, 2025, 9:29 AM
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Yeah best case for the left here is he is sent back to the US and then immediately deported elsewhere. He'll never be a poor oppressed "Maryland man" again.
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Game Changer [1832]
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Bukele would release him if Trump demanded it,
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Apr 18, 2025, 9:56 AM
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but Trump won’t try, he doesn’t want to follow the Supreme Court orders.
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Two things are true here:
Apr 18, 2025, 10:15 AM
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The guy does not belong here and should have been deported without any further to-do.
He should not have been sent to El Salvador, and sending him there was wrong.
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Ultimate Tiger [36130]
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Except:
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Apr 18, 2025, 10:19 AM
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He was granted, by a court, the right to live and work legally in the United States. In 2019, during the first Trump Administration.
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Orange Immortal [64342]
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I am aware of that, and it doesn't change anything.
Apr 18, 2025, 11:57 AM
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He entered illegally, and as a matter of principle and common sense, in my opinion, he should be deported.
I would obey said ruling, but I disagree with it, and it makes no difference, once again, which side issued it. For the 100th time, whether or not things are right or wrong is not determined by what Trump (or any political "side") says or thinks.
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Tiger Titan [48417]
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He entered illegally at the age of 16
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Apr 18, 2025, 12:19 PM
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Because he feared for his life from gang threats. He's lived in the U.S. almost as long as he lived in El Salvador. The gang threatened his mother with extortion from her business, and if she didn't pay, they would either force him into the gang or kill him. So she sent him here.
He was granted protection from deportation so that he wasn't killed. He had been arrested while looking for work. He married a citizen and had two children with her. He had tried to get asylum status but filed it too late, which is why the judge gave him protective status.
Let's maybe apply a little more thought into this than just a "He's illegal! Deport him!" You're playing right into the hands of the intentional ignorance the Trump admin and right wing news is spreading. And yes, this is a Fox News narrative.
He wasn't supposed to be deported. Everyone involved, even the Trump admin, has said so. All the judges have said so. Yet you're still beating this drum.
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Paw Master [17043]
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International law says that you can't cross 5 other countries to claim asylum
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Apr 18, 2025, 1:10 PM
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in the one with the best welfare.
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Tiger Titan [48417]
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United States law says you can't...
Apr 18, 2025, 1:36 PM
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###### people off the street and ship them off to a torture camp without due process.
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Paw Master [17043]
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The law said he was a terrorist and subject to deportation
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Apr 18, 2025, 1:40 PM
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, the error was that a judge years ago said "just not el Salvador".
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Tiger Titan [48417]
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Show me where he was a terrorist, thanks.***
Apr 18, 2025, 3:28 PM
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Re: Show me where he was a terrorist, thanks.***
Apr 18, 2025, 9:38 PM
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MS-13 is designated as a terrorist organization.
Your Maryland resident was a member of MS-13 who entered the USA illegally, and since being in the US has been found to have committed violence on his spouse.
He was extradited to El Salvador via an administrative error; he was already a criminal in El Salvador.
Since when does the USA extradite another country’s criminals?
Do we launch an invasion of El Salvador? That ought to make the Uniparty’s defense contractor cronies happy.
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Game Day Hero [4460]
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The administration itself said he was deported due to an "administrative error"
Apr 18, 2025, 10:38 AM
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and their response to that error has been pretty troubling, honestly.
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Orange Immortal [64342]
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Okay.***
Apr 18, 2025, 11:58 AM
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Game Day Hero [4460]
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I mean, those were their words.
Apr 18, 2025, 12:13 PM
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And if it was an error, it's hard to say that the last couple of days trying to manage the fallout have been a success. It's also hard to say that there's been a concerted effort from the administration to correct the error. Wouldn't you agree?
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Clemson Conqueror [11385]
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Re: I mean, those were their words.
Apr 18, 2025, 9:40 PM
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Tell us.
What would you recommend that we do to get El Salvador to release one of their own criminals to the USA?
Hint: Going to war with El Salvador’s seems like a great idea, doesn’t it?
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Tiger Titan [48417]
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Re: Two things are true here:
Apr 18, 2025, 12:00 PM
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He should not have been sent to El Salvador, and sending him there was wrong.
Well, at least you're finally getting it.
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Since you agree that he shouldn't have been sent to El Salvador
Apr 18, 2025, 12:18 PM
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Where do you think he should have been sent?
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Re: Bukele would release him if Trump demanded it,
Apr 18, 2025, 10:33 PM
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^^^^^^ yep 100% this^^^^^. Those idiots keep using the excuse about no jurisdiction blah blah. Do they really think anyone believes this?? 🙄
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Orange Immortal [64342]
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Paw Master [17043]
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lol, that's good stuff right there.***
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Clemson Conqueror [11385]
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Re: The lack of due process had to do with him being sent there in the first place***
Apr 18, 2025, 9:42 PM
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Great.
Now what? Let’s start a war with El Salvador. Like that idea?
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Ring of Honor [21764]
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"I'm still mad Biden tried to forgive loans so...
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Therefore I support sending people to foreign prison camps without any regard for our BoR!"
You're an imbecile.
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Tiger Titan [48417]
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First, it's "you're". As in "you're a dumb ###".
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Apr 18, 2025, 12:00 PM
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But to fill it in...
Without due process, we're no better than every third world, POS dictatorship country that idiots who slept through their history classes (you) wish we would be because you hate American exceptionalism and everything that makes our nation phenomenal.
Stupid people are always the ones who clamor for a dictator.
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Re: First, it's "you're". As in "you're a dumb ###".
Apr 18, 2025, 9:45 PM
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OK.
Tell us what level of pressure that we deploy against El Salvador’s to get the MS-13 guy … who is a criminal in El Salvador … to get them to release their criminal into the USA.
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Re: First, it's "you're". As in "you're a dumb ###".
Apr 18, 2025, 10:42 PM
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No pressure needed. All Trumpty has to do is say “Mr cool dictator we need you to release the cat we deported by mistake.” He would be back in this country the following day. The problem is not that Trump can’t, he just doesn’t want to. Anybody that thinks a war with El Salvador would be a PROBLEM for us is a fool. We could wipe them out real quick.
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Re: Without Due Process, we are no better than ...
Apr 18, 2025, 10:47 PM
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Forget the judiciary. Forget the legislative branch. Forget the INS. Forget the constitution.
I think The United States should follow whatever Trump wants to do. Since 38.765% of the people in the United States voted for him he should be able to do anything he wants.
The only thing that could mess up my life right now would be if there was a girl peeing in the stall next to me or if my teenage daughter played a lacrosse game and there was a guy on the other team. OMG!
Go for it Don. We trust you. You have helped so many people. Keep it up.
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