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Oculus Spirit [83161]
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Greatest All-Time Baseball Lineup Batting Order:
Jul 10, 2014, 3:51 PM
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1. Willie Mays CF
2. Rogers Hornsby 2B
3. Ted Williams LF
4. Lou Gehrig 1B
5. Babe Ruth RF
6. Mike Schmidt 3B
7. Johnny Bench C
8. Derek Jeter SS
9. RHP Bob Gibson
LHP Sandy Koufax
Bullpen Mariano Rivera
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lol
Jul 10, 2014, 3:53 PM
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No Roy Hobbs.
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I don't see Mark Lemke on this list...fail***
Jul 10, 2014, 3:54 PM
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or Ryan Klesko***
Jul 10, 2014, 3:55 PM
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Mickey Mantle says scroo you!***
Jul 10, 2014, 3:55 PM
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CU Medallion [66284]
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maybe but have to cross check against Prod's lists of the
Jul 10, 2014, 3:55 PM
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All-Time Baseball Lineup Orders
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Rock Defender [54]
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I would disagree with a few of them
Jul 10, 2014, 3:55 PM
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Koufax and Rivera never were very good hitters.
I think you left off Ken Oberkfell and Brad Komminsk.
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There really isn't much to argue...
Jul 10, 2014, 3:56 PM
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Except Jeter. LOL. He might be in the Top 10. I'll go with Honus Wagner.
Walter Johnson instead of Bob Gibson.
SS Wagner
2B Hornsby
LF Teddy
RF Ruth
1B Gehrig
CF Mays
3B Schmidt
C Bench
Big Train
Koufax
Rivera
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Oculus Spirit [83161]
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A-Rod is probably the best SS of all-time if you're
Jul 10, 2014, 4:13 PM
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just going with ability with no bias.
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Yeah, could he do a back flip?***
Jul 10, 2014, 4:20 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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blame Jeter for that.***
Jul 10, 2014, 5:33 PM
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Where in the hell is Ty Cobb?***
Jul 10, 2014, 3:57 PM
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Good point. He always seems to be left off these
Jul 10, 2014, 3:58 PM
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Meanwhile, he has an argument as the greatest hitter ever. People just don't like him. They like Mays a lot.
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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Well, Cobb was not a very nice man.
Jul 10, 2014, 4:00 PM
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One can only wonder were ole Shoeless Joe would end up on this list too.
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Oculus Spirit [78977]
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these were the best
Jul 10, 2014, 3:58 PM
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That's when I liked baseball
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Oculus Spirit [83161]
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Ol' George Foster was strong as a bull.***
Jul 10, 2014, 4:08 PM
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Bob Horner? What kind of list is this?***
Jul 10, 2014, 3:59 PM
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Heisman Winner [136429]
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Dale Murphy
Jul 10, 2014, 4:00 PM
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And 8 othe r guys
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Where's Rod Carew?
Jul 10, 2014, 4:02 PM
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O.j. simpson-- not a jew!
But guess who is...hall of famer rod carew
You anti dentite...
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CU Medallion [60244]
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I'll take Brett over Schmidt at 3B
Jul 10, 2014, 4:04 PM
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also Ripken or Yount over Jeter at SS
Pete Rose needs to be in there too somewhere. Maybe he should be at 3B. Or maybe DH since he played almost every position.
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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He'd need to fight Frank or Edgar for that honor.
Jul 10, 2014, 4:06 PM
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I mean, by the end of the month, only one of those guys will be able to call him self a Hall Of Famer.
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CU Medallion [60244]
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Brett was clutch, esp. in postseason
Jul 10, 2014, 4:16 PM
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dude was money in the playoffs.
Brett 21 yrs Schmidt 18 yrs
games 2707 2404
AB 10349 8352
Runs 1583 1506 push
Hits 3154 2234 Brett+++
2B 665 408 Brett
3B 137 59 Brett
HR 317 548 MJS++
RBI 1595 1595 push
BB 1096 1507 MJS+
SO 908 1883 Brett+++
AVG .305 .267 Brett+++
Fld % @ 3B .951 .955 push
SB 201 174 push
Brett played 300 more games and had almost 40 points higher on his career batting average, 900 more hits, and 900 less strikeouts.
The only thing Schmidt could do better than Brett was hit the long ball. He had 200 more HRs, but yet still finished his career with the EXACTLY the same number of RBIs (weird).
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Oculus Spirit [83161]
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Good argument. I thought it was Schmidt by a mile because
Jul 10, 2014, 4:28 PM
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of 10 gold gloves and 500 HRs but you make some great points.
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I don't know about "mile," but Schmidt was better.
Jul 10, 2014, 5:17 PM
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Better OBP, better SLG, much better fielder.
Brett was better than Schmidt at hitting singles.
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If you put any stock in WAR, Schmidt had 20% more WAR
Jul 10, 2014, 5:20 PM
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while playing in 300 less games.
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9 Bretts would beat 9 Schmidts every day of the week
Jul 10, 2014, 7:32 PM
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Brett could do it all.
If he needed to hit a HR, he could hit a HR. You ever watch him in the playoffs? Of course not, he was before your time. I did. Both were fabulous players, saw both of them play in person many times.
Schmidt drew gasps in batting practice with his raw power. But Brett was the man you wanted in the batter's box with the game on the line.
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Brett was better in playoff games.
Jul 10, 2014, 8:50 PM
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In the other 99.5% of games, Schmidt was better.
Sure, if the game is on the line and you needed a single, I'd rather have Brett, too. That doesn't mean he was the better player.
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Chipper Jones should be in that conversation
Jul 10, 2014, 5:46 PM
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Seriously. Obviously his fielding wasn't where Schmidt's was, but he might have been the best hitter ever at 3B.
If we're going on fielding ability alone, obviously Brookes Robinson was the best 3B ever.
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Chipper is second tier overall...
Jul 10, 2014, 5:58 PM
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Not quite on the level of Schmidt, Brett, and Mathews. That's nothing to be ashamed off.
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Just on the basis of fielding alone?
Jul 10, 2014, 6:03 PM
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His numbers at the plate are certainly comparable to those guys.
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Not just fielding.
Jul 10, 2014, 8:53 PM
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But he's the only one who was a below average third baseman in the field. He's close with Brett and Mathews offensively. Schmidt is the best among the four on both sides of the ball.
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Mariano Rivera could bat?***
Jul 10, 2014, 4:05 PM
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maybe in a world series games
Jul 10, 2014, 4:12 PM
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in the national league park
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I'll take a modern day, all-steroid line-up over that one.
Jul 10, 2014, 4:11 PM
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Give me the likes of Bonds, Palmeiro, Juan Gon, Belle, McGwire, A-Rod, Clemens, etc....
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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I'll take Frank Thomas at first or DH over any of the roid
Jul 10, 2014, 4:17 PM
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guys that played first or DHed. At least he'd be on base for Bonds to drive in.
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Do you even know that Bonds won SEVEN MVP AWARDS?
Jul 10, 2014, 4:12 PM
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& that the closest competitors trail with 3?
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Interesting, no one else mentioned
Jul 10, 2014, 5:02 PM
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Hammerin' Hank.
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Yes, can't take him over Ruth/Williams, though.
Jul 10, 2014, 5:12 PM
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Hank heads the all-time second team.
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Second-team OF of Aaron, Cobb, Bonds.
Jul 10, 2014, 5:18 PM
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Yep, those guys were good.
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Re: Greatest All-Time Baseball Lineup Batting Order:
Jul 10, 2014, 5:25 PM
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Nice! Tomorrow I want to see you greatest dopers starting lineup.
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Easy:
Jul 10, 2014, 5:31 PM
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3B Alex Rodriguez
LF Manny Ramirez
CF Barry Bonds
1B Mark McGwire
RF Sammy Sosa
DH Rafael Palmeiro
C Ivan Rodriguez
SS Miguel Tejada
2B Bret Boone
SP Roger Clemens
RP John Rocker
Studly team! No Jose Canseco, Gary Sheffield, Juan Gonzalez, David Ortiz.
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Ozzie Smith @ SS***
Jul 10, 2014, 5:26 PM
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I'd throw Griffey Jr., A-Rod, and Bonds in there somewhere***
Jul 10, 2014, 5:42 PM
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Lefty Grove and Roger Clemens
Jul 10, 2014, 5:50 PM
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have the most ERA Titles.
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Honus Wagner at short.***
Jul 10, 2014, 5:51 PM
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