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The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:16 PM
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per ESPN and magazines such as Sports Illustrated having to downsize. The Nil and transfer portal along with their WOKE ways is turning the general public off. Can you blame them?
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Athletic Dir [1131]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:20 PM
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No. It’s the “all about me” culture that priorities the individual without regard for how it impacts others. That’s why they opened up the portal and nil. People shouldn’t just do whatever they want because they don’t always know what is wise. University is supposed to protect these students from themselves. This is coming from someone right out of college
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 3:54 PM
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The Supreme Court of the United States ruled that college football is a business and that the individual teams are not allowed to collude with each other (through the NCAA) to not pay the football players.
This violates a law written in the 1800's.
The portal and NIL were a last ditch effort by the NCAA to avert a ruling like this one.
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 8:14 PM
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We expect our universities to protect recruits and student athletes from coaches like Kirby getting them drunk and driving them around Athens
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The left has wanted to kill football for a long time now. They have tried many
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Jan 19, 2024, 6:12 PM
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ways to do so, but may have finally found the answer. Unrestricted free trade. Alienate the fan base and kill the revenue. I told CRB about 5 years ago when this crap started in California that they were going to kill the golden goose. When I heard this morning that after getting back from the CFP, that Saban had 35 guys come in and say they needed more NIL, more touches, more playing time.....Well, I guess he called Mrs. Saban and said,"Honey, if can live with the 200 million or so and a few car dealerships, then I think I'll just tell them I'm done when I walk out today....AND HE DID just that. So, nobody has loved college sports than Ole Spud,but.......I can go fishing, I can go shoot skeet, I could...I say I could...start deer hunting again.....
I sure hope it doesn't happen that I lose interest,but, I lost interest in pro sports a long time ago...And, I hate to say it, but I swear, I think pro players have more loyalty to their team than college guys do right now....
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:20 PM
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You are right. The SEC and B1G needs to pull out, form their own league and install enforceable rules. The whole thing is a big joke right now and the NCAA is doing NOTHING to bring stability to the insanity.
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:30 PM
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I know you mostly just troll here - but the SEC/Big10 thing that is going to happen sooner than later - will need anti-trust exemption approval from Congress to function. To get that approval they’re going to have to invite a whole lot more schools in. Whether it’s including existing conferences or blowing up the ACC / Big 12 and folding most of the teams in - they’re not going to get the votes from reps and senators that have to go back home and explain why their state schools that are currently FBS don’t get to play big boy football anymore.
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1st Rounder [689]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 2:36 PM
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I know you mostly just troll here - but the SEC/Big10 thing that is going to happen sooner than later - will need anti-trust exemption approval from Congress to function. To get that approval they’re going to have to invite a whole lot more schools in. Whether it’s including existing conferences or blowing up the ACC / Big 12 and folding most of the teams in - they’re not going to get the votes from reps and senators that have to go back home and explain why their state schools that are currently FBS don’t get to play big boy football anymore.
Don't you think we are getting closer to the top schools being signed on as an NFL farm team? The whole thing is out of whack but it seems it is headed in that direction.
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No, the NFL is far far away from getting in the game of fielding their own
Jan 19, 2024, 2:57 PM
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farm teams, much less really expensive collegiate franchises.
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Good. Maybe it will wake some people up!***
Jan 19, 2024, 2:21 PM
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 2:35 PM
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Yep the bowl games were very impressive in the games I watched on tv with their attendance numbers. J/K it was sad in reality.
SEC and B1G games viewership is probably carrying the load hence new tv contracts in the near future. Everyone else not so much.
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CU Guru [1522]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 4:06 PM
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Bowl games have not been about in-person attendance for decades. And print media has been on the way out for even longer.
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Valley Protector [1445]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 2:50 PM
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Yes and no. Ratings are up compared with the last several years, but not where they used to be in earlier times. Attendance again nsy be better this year, but overall has been trending downward from what it used to be.
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Viewership may be up this year partly because of the playoffs being on NYD, i don't believe it has been steadily increasing each year. Not sure if attendance was up or down, but it has been steadily declining the previous 4 to 5 years. I think attendance started declining before NIL & transfer portal started.
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Athletic Dir [1122]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:34 PM
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I’m pretty sure college football is more popular than it’s ever been. SI dying is more related to the fact print media has been on life support for the last decade due to free online content. Geriatric outlets like SI refusing to adapt and holding out behind paywalls is what killed it, not a lack of interest in college sports. Most of SIs content was pro sports related anyways, and last time I checked even pro football had like 93 of the highest rated 100 broadcasts last year.
The game is changing, some parts for better, some for worse. I think the idea of a super conference outside the NCAA is an inevitability that will ultimately make a lot of people angry but finally bring some order to the chaos we see today. But as the boomers age into retirement everyone is going to stop catering to them and focus on the more relevant, younger consumers who have different tastes. Basically lots of things are going to keep changing so Karen’s going to have a get used to it (even though she won’t and will be asking for the manager)
Places like Sears has shown that if you try to cling your literally dying target market at the expense of younger generations you’re going to die with your target market.
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Valley Protector [1445]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 3:39 PM
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There is some indication that younger people have less interest in sports, comparatively, than older generations. Couple that woth the fact that younger generations are comparatively smaller in number, o think there is some reason to doubt longterm growth.
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Athletic Dir [1122]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 4:14 PM
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I think that’s why sports are evolving, to capture more interest from the younger audiences because they realize if they don’t they’re dead
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:34 PM
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Magazines and newspaper readership have been off for years. How television numbers look are the key and I suspect they are not down.
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All-In [10916]
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Couldn't be more wrong
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:35 PM
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It's audience has grown, specifically college football... it is the clear number 2 sport in the country behind the NFL and with the playoff coming they expect the gap to close even more.
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Varsity [100]
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Re: Couldn't be more wrong
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:44 PM
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This. Ratings have never been higher, and attendance is up across the vast majority of programs nationwide.
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 2:37 PM
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Ratings and attendance say different for college sports, at least for football. Hoops has been declining somewhat for over a decade now.
SI has been on the way out since the dawn of instant sports photos everywhere then getting bought by a hedge fund five years ago.
Does WOKE in this sense mean negotiating what you think your value is and then getting it? Seems anti-capitalism there, kind of WOKE on its own if you ask me.
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Game Changer [1985]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
Jan 19, 2024, 2:44 PM
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Oh, really?
The Washington / Michigan game was the most watched game in CFP history.
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Orange Blooded [2404]
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Clemson Conqueror [11962]
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Thats a dumb conclusion to make
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:48 PM
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Have people lost interest in reading? The publishing industry is struggling to sell physical books so that must be the case
How bout music? Record stores are failing left and right so obviously no one listens to music anymore
Sports Illustrated was purchased by a conglomerate that just wanted to peel it apart and sell its parts for profit; it’s the same thing that ole Eddie Lampert did to Sears.
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Commissioner [1218]
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Actually, ratings keep going up. And if you pay attention to analyst reports
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Jan 19, 2024, 2:56 PM
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and such, ESPN has a pretty good outlook for the future. They're just trying to figure out whether to spin it off, keep it in-house, etc, and they're strategically figuring out the best way to spend money.
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Varsity [100]
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Downsizing is less about interest and more about the commoditization of the
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Jan 19, 2024, 3:24 PM
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content. It's just harder to wring money from these platforms than it was 20 years ago.
It's also easier to do several jobs now than it was 20 years ago. I spent years in/on TV. What took 10 paid FTEs to do when I started out now takes three.
The appetite, though, remains. A recent NFL playoff game drew a staggering 28M homes. That's a huge share. SEC and B10 football games routinely draw tens of millions of households. And that's not accounting for streaming viewers.
I can't say wokeism is turning huge chunks of the viewing/consuming public away. But I suspect it is turning some away. I know that during COVID/Summer of Protests, I went from knowing I wasn't really the target demographic for the NBA machine, to realizing I was no longer even welcome.
Same happened a few months later with NFL. I watched a game and quickly realized I was no longer welcome. So I tuned out and will likely never tune back in.
And on the rare moments I catch a few minutes of something on primetime TV, I see the advertisers are no longer interested in me, either. It's as if white, married, hetero couples no longer exist in American society and are not still the single most powerful economic bloc. But in this brave new world, let the facts be ######.
But college football remains a good spot for my ilk -- just an average evangelical white dude who isn't freaked out by mainline liberalism, probably because I've been around long enough, and am well-read enough, to see through many of its tenets and tropes.
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Jan 19, 2024, 3:41 PM
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you are right I am about ready to give it up been a big donor for yrs and getting ready to quite
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 3:43 PM
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no you're woke shut up.
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Ring of Honor [23804]
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Wouldn't call SI "downsizing"
Jan 19, 2024, 3:58 PM
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Gutting the staff cause you went WOKE is not downsizing.
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CU Medallion [19888]
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Keep your chin up young man.***
Jan 19, 2024, 4:11 PM
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 4:28 PM
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Actually, ESPN is still a profitable biz for Disney but not growing revenue like it used to in the past. The main reason for declining revenue is ESPN is tied to overall slow death of traditional cable, carriage fees and ad revenue. With all of that being said, I personally don't watch much of anything on the network. Their glory days seem behind them. Remember when they had Kenny Mayne, Stu Scott, Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen, Keith Olberman, etc. Entertaining, witty, hints of anti-establishment. Fun.
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I agree. Using "woke" out of context just makes you look stupid.***
Jan 19, 2024, 4:43 PM
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Ring of Honor [22109]
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Idiot post of the day.
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Jan 19, 2024, 4:42 PM
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Congrats!
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 5:18 PM
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The ratings would be down for both college and NFL but legalized gambling is saving the day. Now
34 states have approved gambling and 4 more are coming soon. It so easy to bet and so many things with prop bets to bet on.
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Rival Killer [3014]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 5:23 PM
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1. Pro sports have always been more popular.
2. CFB's refusal to move to a legitimate playoff system and lack of parity has contributed to the decline in interest more than anything.
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Orange Beast [6308]
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Re: The public is losing their interest in college sports
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Jan 19, 2024, 5:25 PM
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Before NIL and the transfer portal, attendance at college football games was declining. I suspect that we will see an accelerated decline now. The players do not realize that they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg. I will support Clemson through IPTAY as long as the Tiger coaches do things the correct way. If Clemson takes the cheating route, I am done.
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Orange Blooded [2505]
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Completely False...College Football is
Jan 19, 2024, 5:39 PM
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As popular as ever. Lots of changes happening and as we all know, people like to freak out when that happens.
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I should hope so.***
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