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The reaction if Harris did this:
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Aug 28, 2024, 2:44 PM
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OUTRAGE HOW DARE SHE NO RESPECT FOR TROOPS OR AMERICA.
Trump does it....crickets.
https://x.com/votevets/status/1828836255687139604
Thumbs up, dead guy!
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"Why would I go to that cemetery?"
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Aug 28, 2024, 2:46 PM
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"It’s filled with losers."
-Trump at Normandy
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Re: "Why would I go to that cemetery?"
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Aug 28, 2024, 5:56 PM
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He never said that. Even Snopes (leftist fact checking service) had to admit that the Normandy cemetery ‘suckers’ comment was attributed to Mark Kelly, who in turn reported that he heard it from some media outlet from which the media outlet had no source citation.
Kind of like another Russia hoax thing. Just made up BS that feces eating TDS’ers can’t get enough of.
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Re: "Why would I go to that cemetery?"
Aug 28, 2024, 8:02 PM
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He never said that. Even Snopes (leftist fact checking service) had to admit that the Normandy cemetery ‘suckers’ comment was attributed to Mark Kelly, who in turn reported that he heard it from some media outlet from which the media outlet had no source citation.
Kind of like another Russia hoax thing. Just made up BS that feces eating TDS’ers can’t get enough of.
He likes to make false quotes, part of the liberal playbook
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BS.***
Aug 29, 2024, 9:41 AM
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Re: "Why would I go to that cemetery?"
Aug 28, 2024, 11:12 PM
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Stop telling lies.
He never said that.
That quote has been proven to be bogus many times.
Believe what you wish though.
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More BS.***
Aug 29, 2024, 9:41 AM
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Re: The reaction if Harris did this:
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Aug 28, 2024, 2:48 PM
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kamilla should meet with the families of the soldiers that she got killed
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How'd she get em killed?***
Aug 28, 2024, 2:49 PM
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Re: How'd she get em killed?***
Aug 28, 2024, 3:49 PM
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He won't be able to explain that.
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She was the last one in the room - her words***
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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And what do you think that means?
Aug 29, 2024, 8:05 AM
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Do y'all really think the VP has that kind of authority? Or are you arguing she was running the show all along?
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Re: How'd she get em killed?***
Aug 28, 2024, 11:14 PM
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By agreeing with a turd for brains plan on how to withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Ever heard of Abbey Gate?
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So you're arguing the VP has the power to make those decisions?***
Aug 29, 2024, 7:50 AM
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I'm assuming that's the guys family? Looks like they're OK with it
Aug 28, 2024, 2:50 PM
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Looks like Kamala is following ole Joe's hide in the basement campaign strategy, so this kind of appearance would be a step up.
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Tiger Titan [46471]
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I don't see a problem with such a photo...
Aug 28, 2024, 2:54 PM
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If the family is good with it and wanted it.
But that's not to Jimmy's point, really. If Harris had done it, the howling here would be outlandish. Dumber than the Walz military service stuff which was dumb.
But if the family wants to pose with a man who has a record of disparaging veterans and calling them losers and suckers, that's their business.
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Honestly I doubt it, but she was part of the administration that got the guy
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Aug 28, 2024, 3:13 PM
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killed in that disastrous withdrawal.
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Re: Honestly I doubt it, but she was part of the administration that got the guy
Aug 28, 2024, 3:50 PM
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How could it have been done that would have guaranteed 0 casualties?
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Re: Honestly I doubt it, but she was part of the administration that got the guy
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Re: Honestly I doubt it, but she was part of the administration that got the guy
Aug 28, 2024, 5:07 PM
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You don't know. Lolololololol
#pwned
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I'm convinced you're like 12 years old, you have to be.***
Aug 29, 2024, 9:42 AM
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Re: Honestly I doubt it, but she was part of the administration that got the guy
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False premise.
Trump’s plan never promised zero casualties. He negotiated the terms of our troops leaving Afghanistan, but leaving valuable Bagram airbase in our possession.
It was up to Harris / Biden admin to either execute the evacuation or to decide to not evacuate and strike down a Trump deed …just as they did with Yrump’s in-process border wall.
Harris / Biden admin put forth the brilliant plan to evacuate the soldiers before all of the civilians had been removed. Typical of the Democrats. Just plain stupid. Do stupid things, get stupid prizes.
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Geez, thats a new low, even for him
Aug 28, 2024, 3:02 PM
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Definitely worse than the Pizza Hut commercial he did with Ivana.
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Re: The reaction if Harris did this:
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Aug 28, 2024, 3:04 PM
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If the family invited him (or Kamala) then I don't know why anyone would have a problem with it either way.
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Couple of things...
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Aug 28, 2024, 3:06 PM
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One... Trump is flanked by SSGT Hoover's Mother, Father, Wife and children in that photo. Hoover's Mom is giving the same "thumbs up" gesture as Trump and most others in the photo. If they don't have a problem with it then no one else should either.
Two. Neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris showed up at that Arlington memorial service for those 13 dead service members. All of whom died in the execution of a mission that the Biden-Harris Administration sent them to execute. I guess their dedication to politics overrides their sense of obligation in their positions as the Commander in Chief and wanna be Commander in Chief. Apparently for Biden and Harris - the Commander in Chief "the buck stops here" responsibility ends when it might be a tad uncomfortable for them to actually come face to face with the consequences of their military orders.
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Again, y'all are kinda missing Jimmy's point
Aug 28, 2024, 3:12 PM
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He's not criticizing Trump. He's saying Trumpkins would be howling if Harris did it. And they would. Especially here.
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You're probably right - since the extreme partisanship season is in full swing.
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But that would also have required Kamala to have shown up... of which she found a way to be absent...
Was Trump playing this to his political advantage? Absolutely. Was it appropriate for the sitting President or current VP be there? Absolutely. I doubt the MSM draws any attention to this Trump photo simply because it really drives home "who" didn't show up at that ceremony but should have...
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Extraordinarily weak attempt at blasting Trump supporters
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Aug 28, 2024, 6:13 PM
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Speculating that Trump supporters would behave like the Jack Axz Harris supporters did behave is pathetic. Speculation does not compare to fact.
As a committed TDS’er, you willingly embarrass yourself by equivocating speculation about possible bad behavior by Team Trump as = to actual bad behavior by Team Harris / Low-T.
Try being more respectful of yourself. That’ll be good for you.
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He's long been beyond that. The TDS has metastasized.***
Aug 28, 2024, 11:10 PM
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Oh really?
Aug 29, 2024, 7:51 AM
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You little babies cried and whined about Walz's service for weeks. Y'all would have been flinging feces at your screen if Harris posed in that photo. Y'all are emotionally weak babies who can handle very few things like an adult, and that would have sent you over the edge.
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^^^ Desperation is setting in ^^^ Poor baby. What's this obsession with feces?***
Aug 29, 2024, 9:44 AM
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Re: Couple of things...
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Trump inherited the Afghanistan war. As president, he was besieged with seditious LawFare activities such as the Russia hoax and the Ukraine conversation in which he asked that Joe Biden’s behavior in & about Ukraine be investigated. Trump was kept so busy with contrived illegal plots against him that some presidential niceties could not be accommodated.
Harris / Biden were busy, too. While Biden was at the beach, Kamala was busy doing nothing.
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Trump could have taken a day off from playing golf
Aug 29, 2024, 12:43 AM
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to attend, but he doesn’t care about anyone other than himself. You don’t set the record for rounds of golf played as president by taking off days for things such as funerals.
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Re: Couple of things...
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He watched television every day until 11 AM under "executive time". You tried. LOL
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Re: Couple of things...
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😆 If Trump isn't present, it's OK. If Harris/Biden are not there, it's disrespectful to the families.
LOLOLOLOL
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The second point is really something
Aug 28, 2024, 4:28 PM
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not sure how many presidents have attended such funerals, but I’d say it is likely the exception rather than the rule. It’s really a bad look.
Let them kiss babies all day long, but trying to score points at a funeral is about as low as crashing one to hook up with a chick.
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Re: Couple of things...
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One... Trump is flanked by SSGT Hoover's Mother, Father, Wife and children in that photo. Hoover's Mom is giving the same "thumbs up" gesture as Trump and most others in the photo. If they don't have a problem with it then no one else should either.
Two. Neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris showed up at that Arlington memorial service for those 13 dead service members. All of whom died in the execution of a mission that the Biden-Harris Administration sent them to execute. I guess their dedication to politics overrides their sense of obligation in their positions as the Commander in Chief and wanna be Commander in Chief. Apparently for Biden and Harris - the Commander in Chief "the buck stops here" responsibility ends when it might be a tad uncomfortable for them to actually come face to face with the consequences of their military orders.
Do not confuse them with facts
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I don't know why the Twitter link isn't showing, but the point in all of this
Aug 28, 2024, 3:18 PM
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is that Arlington Cemetary has very strict rules based on how hallowed that ground is. Some parts more than others. In Section 60, in this case, photography is expressly forbidden by Arlington except for authorized personnel. Since this was a photo op, several of Trump's team got into a verbal altercation with the guard on duty when he told them they couldn't take pictures, and it got physical. Trump and team weren't taking "no" for an answer.
THAT is what will be summarily dismissed by MAGA in this specific event.
https://x.com/votevets/status/1828836255687139604
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Sounds like that time Trump supposedly grabbed the wheel from the secret service
Aug 28, 2024, 3:20 PM
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agent and tried to fight him.
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Hopefully they'll release the video so we can see what happened
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A full investigation should take place, and if it happened as described actions taken accordingly. Of course, what's most likely to happen is an investigation will take place, the allegations will be shown to be blown wildly out of proportion, and you guys will forget about it. That's pretty much been standard operating procedure for almost a decade now.
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I mean, do you believe that Trump-hating libtards are buried everywhere in
Aug 28, 2024, 4:55 PM
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government? Even officials at Arlington Cemetary have been infiltrated by the Left? What a weird way to view the world. Arlington Cemetary is a hallowed piece of ground with strict rules, which apparently only apply to the commoners.
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lol yes, I do. What reality are you living in? I had a fantasy football league
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cancelled because someone wanted to name their team MAGA and several others got so butthurt about it they disbanded everything. TDS is rampant everywhere.
We only know there was an incident, we don't know the specifics of it. Of course, you take that to mean Trumps people attacked some innocent official. Trumps team is saying they had approval and video of the incident they're willing to release. We'll see. Some of the families have come out and said they approved the photos, now I don't know if they have the authority to give that approval or not, but history tells us this did not play out anything like the media is trying to convince us it did. It's wild people keep falling for it, particularly when NPR is the one breaking the story.
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Re: I don't know why the Twitter link isn't showing, but the point in all of this
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I see Trump as the only ‘civilian’ in the pic.
If I’m mistaken, then which one in the group is one of Trump’s aides or political allies?
BTW, Trump, as president, was Commander in Chief at the time.
Don’t try to tell me that the Commander in Chief, paying respects to (is this the tomb of the Unknown Soldier?) the heroes at Arlington, is doing anything disrespectful.
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I thot the SJW's declared that a 'gang sign', right?
Aug 28, 2024, 3:25 PM
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Yes, because she wouldnt have been invited to do so.***
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Anyone else would have been arrested for a violation of federal law.***
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Re: Anyone else would have been arrested for a violation of federal law.***
Aug 28, 2024, 6:31 PM
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Kind of off topic but tangential to this is something that is rarely talked
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about outside the military. That something is being a casualty notification officer/NCO.
One of the things we learned from Vietnam was that notifying families of a military member death is something that should/must be done in person. The days of simply sending a telegram as in WWII have long passed.
At some point in almost every military officer's and NCO's career they will be put on a rotating roster to be a casualty notification officer. It is done by region where almost every military post/base is responsible for a US geographic region for notifications. Sometimes this can be as much as 500 miles from that particular installation. The military installations maintain a roster of designated military members 24/7/365 to handle the notification to any spouse, parent or loco-parentis family member of a service members death.
The way notifications work is that once a military members death occurs - combat our outside of combat - a person of equal or greater rank is designated to notify the immediate family members. If the soldier that dies is married and has parents - it would require separate notification officers/NCOs for each of those immediate members. Sometimes this could be in as many as 3 different States from East coast to West coast. In some situations you could have the spouse living in the State of the deceased service member's military installation and a set of divorced parents living in two other States from as far as California to Maine. It all has to be carefully coordinated so that all the notifications occur at roughly the same time.
This is why in many cases the news will report military members killed in some incident but not release the names - it takes a little time to get the in-person notifications done. The last thing the DoD wants is for immediate family members to first find out their loved one is dead through a news broadcast.
I was on such casualty notification rosters several times in my career - normally for a six month period. Each time before assuming duty on those rosters each potential notification officer/NCO had to go through training. Let me tell you - that is some of the most heart wrenching, emotionally draining training I ever went through. I can't think of a more difficult task than showing up in our dress uniform, knocking on a spouses door and telling them their loved one is dead.
Your job as a notification officer is to deliver the worst news a family member can ever receive. That is why a casualty notification officer/NCO will NEVER be the same person as the casualty assistance officer/NCO that is assigned to these family members and contacts the families shortly after notification.
Luckily I never got the call to make a notification. I do know plenty of guys that did. They told me it was emotionally the hardest thing they had ever had to do. Some even said it was more agonizing than combat itself. Trying to keep it together when telling the spouse, mother, or father that their husband/wife or child was dead was beyond "hard". Many times the family member would scream, lash out at them, or fall to pieces right in front of them.
Keep in mind that each of these 13 service members who gave the ultimate sacrifice had family members experience those notifications. We sometimes lose perspective in our political discourse and quickly choose a side on things. But as I look at that picture, or when I see other pictures from Arlington of families visiting a grave site, I'm reminded of the sadness and un-fillable hole left in the hearts of these families. I'm also reminded that some officer or NCO had the unenviable, but honorable task of telling these families that their family member was no longer with us.
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Good post, and yes, that has to be an unfathomable responsibility for
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anybody with a soul. Glad you never got called on to do it.
Not that Vedder knows anything about it firsthand, but it's still pretty haunting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYtBMgLfqKQ
Unsealed, on a porch a letter sat
Then you said, "I wanna leave it again"
Once I saw her on a beach of weathered sand
And on the sand I wanna leave her again
On a weekend I wanna wish it all away, yeah
And they called and I said that I'll go
And I said that I'll call out again
And the reason I ought ta leave her calm, I know
I said, "I don't know whether I'm the boxer or the bag"
Oh yeah, can you see them, out on the porch?
Yeah, but they don't wave
I see them 'round the front way, yeah
And I know, and I know I don't wanna stay
Make me cry
I see oh, I don't know why there's something else
I want to, wanna drum it all away
I said, "I don't, I don't know whether I was the boxer or the bag"
Oh yeah, can you see them, out the on porch?
Yeah, but they don't wave
I see them 'round the front way
And I know, and I know I don't want to stay at all
I don't want to stay
I don't want to stay
I don't want to stay
I don't, I don't want to stay
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Seeing as everyone is doing it, it must mean something to the family.***
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Harris didnt even go***
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Re: Harris didnt even go***
Aug 28, 2024, 6:35 PM
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Likely she wasn’t invited.
She likely would have been relieved to not be invited. Some reporter might have asked her a question.
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She should have a statue erected at the border
Aug 28, 2024, 11:10 PM
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A monument to the Border Czar!
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