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Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
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Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
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Mar 25, 2025, 11:58 AM
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Matt Leinhart, Ryan Leaf, Johnny Manziel: The list of good to great college football QB's who flamed out in the NFL is long.
DJU was never great and only good in a few games in his college career. The odds that an NFL team wastes a draft pick on him are slim and none.
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Re: No Problem.... He'll Send You Some Beats Headphones..... ---
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Mar 25, 2025, 12:04 PM
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....... thanking you for your support.
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Last I heard he had mine shipped.***
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Mar 25, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Re: Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
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Mar 25, 2025, 12:13 PM
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Charlie Ward played in the NBA and not NFL.
Andre Ware had 4 seasons.
Tom Couch 5 seasons.
Jemarcus Russell dumb and out of shape anyway.
Schuler had 6 seasons which isn't bad.
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Re: Ryan Leaf..... Became A Mental Case At First ---
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Mar 25, 2025, 12:16 PM
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He lit up the nation in college.
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Re: Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
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Mar 25, 2025, 12:31 PM
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Forgot to add the other..
Ryan Leaf 4 seasons.
Leinart 6 seasons which is solid.
Manziel had 2 seasons. Drugs, booze, head case, could have been a backup.
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Re: Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
Mar 25, 2025, 4:51 PM
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And Ward COULD have played for almost anyone in the NFL. Wouldn’t list him as a flame out. He chose correctly when he chose the nba. He made his money and saved his brain from cte.
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If Tajh Boyd couldn't even get a sniff for the NFL...
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Mar 25, 2025, 12:22 PM
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there is no way in HAYULL that DJU rates consideration.
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I think DJU is a decent guy but unlikely to make NFL. No animosity towards him***
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Mar 25, 2025, 1:50 PM
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Re: Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
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Mar 25, 2025, 2:59 PM
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You underestimate teams willing to take a late-round flyer on a case like DJU.
Personally, I wouldn't draft him and think he's probably a UDFA at best based on production. However, measurables will always tempt teams because they believe "I can try to fix him and BOOM! What a steal."
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Glad you are pulling for him to succeed
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Mar 25, 2025, 3:04 PM
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and don’t harbor resentment toward him for not being perfect as Clemson’s QB.
Once a Tiger, always a Tiger, right?
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Facts dont care about your feelings, snowflake***
Mar 25, 2025, 3:51 PM
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What are you talking about?***
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Mar 25, 2025, 4:05 PM
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Re: Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
Mar 25, 2025, 3:11 PM
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You could do the same exercise for any other position as well. Most high performers in college flame out in the pros.
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Re: Tim Couch, Charlie Ward, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Heath Shuler,
Mar 25, 2025, 3:25 PM
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With his arm strength I honestly wouldn't be too surprised to see someone take a flier on him in a late round. I mean Logan Thomas was drafted lol. But honestly he'd be better off just going undrafted and trying to sign on with a team that has a great QB coach and a veteran QB he can learn behind.
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Logan Thomas was light years better than DJ***
Mar 25, 2025, 3:52 PM
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Correction on Charlie Ward.
Mar 25, 2025, 3:46 PM
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He never was in the NFL. He was never drafted. Never signed as a free agent.
He went from being a two sport star at FSU into the NBA where he had a long and very successful career.
(I won't bore you with the details of why he chose the NBA over NFL.)
However, you make a good point. If he had gone into the NFL, he probably would have never done more than carry a clipboard. He was in the time where the NFL would consider a small athletic QB who made things happen with his feet. He was way before Lamar Jackson and way after Fran Tarkenton.
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