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Rock Defender [54]
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Generational split with fanbase implications
Feb 18, 2024, 2:13 PM
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For the first time in FOUR generations, not a single graduating member of my wife's family is choosing Clemson.
That's five kids, three who were even offered academic money by Clemson, who are saying no. All live in either SC or GA.
ALL five are going away. Two to Auburn, one to Penn, one to Vandy, one to Rice.
It'll be odd not having the family football text thread blown up by kids in search of tickets for themselves/friends as has been the case for so
long.
But the allure of all that held ZERO sway on this crowd. They have no interest in carrying on those traditions.
Maybe these five kids are an anomaly. But if they arent, brand management has never been as critical to these schools as it is now.
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All-In [25040]
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Clemson enrollment numbers are higher than ever
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Feb 18, 2024, 2:22 PM
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Just is your point just that kids choose where they want now regardless of family history?
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Rock Defender [54]
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Probably, yeah.
Feb 18, 2024, 2:31 PM
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That, and the idea that their decision making metrics are so far advanced compared to mine.
I went to UT because that's just what college-bound folks in my family did back then. It was a simple decision. Maybe we were simpletons?
That 49% of Clemson's incoming frosh. students are from out of state is also an interesting stat.
I wonder when it'll tip to 51% (assuming it's possible under the charter).
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110%er [7202]
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Daddy tiger grew up in TN and saw the benefits
Feb 18, 2024, 2:38 PM
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of leaving Knoxville trash hole to come to God's country!
Then plenty followed to God's country.
City slicker rope holder
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Rock Defender [54]
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Ive always enjoyed Knoxville. A great town.
Feb 18, 2024, 2:46 PM
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Maybe you had a different experience there.
But none of these kids were interested in going to UT. Not sure any even applied there.
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110%er [7202]
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I almost made it to UT but had to turn around bc of a gang shooting
Feb 18, 2024, 2:47 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I went to Texas.
Feb 18, 2024, 2:53 PM
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Didnt go to med school, tho.
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110%er [7202]
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Then ur degree must be in rope smokin
Feb 18, 2024, 2:56 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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That's funny --
Feb 18, 2024, 2:58 PM
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but I dont think they offer degrees in that particular discipline at the University of Texas.
Where'd you get yours?
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110%er [7202]
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U need a friend bad. Start going out and see if u can
Feb 18, 2024, 3:03 PM
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find someone who will converse with u instead if making ops that have nuttin to do with nuttin.
If I have thumbs down u would have mine
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Rock Defender [54]
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I don't think I'm alone in observing that
Feb 18, 2024, 3:51 PM
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the next generation of kids may not use the same criteria we used when gauging where to attend school.
This is based on conversations not only within the family, but with our many friends whose kids are making similar choices.
And it speaks to an emerging trend that will affect how universities engage with their communities, and larger fan bases, going forward.
You seem to have mastered a fairly linear way of thinking and communicating. Perhaps this isn't the thread for you.
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Oculus Spirit [77346]
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Nobody I hung out with while at Clemson were from
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Feb 18, 2024, 3:27 PM
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SC. That was in the late 90's.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Where were they from?
Feb 18, 2024, 3:52 PM
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Oculus Spirit [77346]
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Northeast, Midwest and Southwest.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 8:57 PM
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Oculus Spirit [77346]
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You can't be referring to the excessivley tan SAE's,
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Feb 18, 2024, 8:58 PM
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now could you?
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Re: Generational split with fanbase implications
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Feb 18, 2024, 2:28 PM
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Those are very impressive schools. My oldest grand picked Univ of Michigan after two generations of tigers. I don’t think that any of,my four grands will pick Clemson.
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Rock Defender [54]
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These kids all are privileged
Feb 18, 2024, 2:34 PM
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and have benefitted from college prep schools.
So the door swung pretty wide when their test scores hit the portals.
Even still, I'd have thought Clemson wouldve been in the mix. It's odd thinking that in 20 years, Clemson maybe might not factor into the family's identity anymore.
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110%er [7202]
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Quit talking from ur ###. Why even make the op?
Feb 18, 2024, 2:41 PM
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Makes no dammm sense to any Juan but ewe.
Ur an undercover coot sucking walking on rocky bottoms
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Rock Defender [54]
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Just find it interesting, I guess.
Feb 18, 2024, 2:43 PM
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Things have changed alot in the last 20 years. And even more since COVID.
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110%er [7202]
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They probably opted out of the sat scores being sent in.
Feb 18, 2024, 2:34 PM
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Or probably u never spent time with them on campus as kids (not just a game) but showing the buildings, history, etc... all schools u named Clemson competes with. Except Penn and everyone knows they get kids in campus early.
I'm calling bad familial environment
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Rock Defender [54]
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Yeah.
Feb 18, 2024, 2:41 PM
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They all spent plenty of time around campus with their alum folks. Games and all that were a given. But beyond all that surface, tailgate-and-hangover crap, a great-grandparent was part of the lengendary Class of '39. And a couple of grandparents are Order of the Oaksters.
Deep roots.
Which is kinda my point -- when it came down to it, none of that stuff mattered.
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110%er [7202]
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Go back above the Donna dixon line u Yankee
Feb 18, 2024, 2:44 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Have always lived in either South Carolina
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Feb 18, 2024, 2:48 PM
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or Texas.
You seem agitated. Calm down a little.
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Verify with pigs but make sure over 18. I'm not a Pen recruiter
Feb 18, 2024, 2:45 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Maybe you're just stressed?
Feb 18, 2024, 2:51 PM
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You seem to have lost the capacity for rational thought or speech.
I hope you can regain control at some point.
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Re: Yeah.
Feb 18, 2024, 4:16 PM
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Why didn’t you go to Clemson?
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Rock Defender [54]
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I went to the University of Texas
Feb 18, 2024, 6:39 PM
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because I'm a Texan, from a long line of Texans, all who went to the University of Texas.
I married a Clemson graduate.
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Some of it might be kids just wanna blaze their own trail
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Feb 18, 2024, 2:52 PM
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Can speak from personal experience. Nobody in my family had gone to college until my parents generation (mom & dad only pursued some postsecondary at local tech college, dad's siblings all went to Winthrop). My generation came along, had an older cousin continue the Wnthrop trend. By time my time came, I explored more of other options. 1 of my aunt's really pushed hard to continue the Winthrop trend since my family had a legacy. However, she pushed so far on it that she turned me off. & when I got my acceptance letter from Clemson (which was my dream school & my grandpa had planted the seed when I was little), I chose to make my own path. Since then, most my younger cousins have done the same.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Weird how one word from one person
Feb 18, 2024, 2:56 PM
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can flip a switch, while another word from
someone else can turn it off.
We dont push the kids ... but a couple of folks would admit they "gently nudge" ... and it's annoying when they do.
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I don't think I've ever met a kid from the age of 15 to early 20s
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Feb 18, 2024, 3:12 PM
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That really cared what their elders thought. Especially about school. I don't take offense with any Clemson graduate not forcing offspring to go to Clemson. Most kids make their decisions based off friends, boy or girl friends and some stupid reasons like I got to get away.
Our family has graduates from all over. One of my uncles went to a school no clemson and ended up help pioneering the robotic arms used on the international space station. I have a grandfather with doctorate that worked on the Manhattan project. I have some really cool stories of family members who graduated non clemson that are not tards!
I just take issue to ur op and saying no one in ur family would consider clemson even for free! Well f u and f that statement. No one here cares.
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Rock Defender [54]
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That's fine. If you take issue with something,
Feb 18, 2024, 3:23 PM
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just say you take issue with something. No need for all the vitriol leading up to that point.
And my OP didn't say Clemson offered those kids free rides. I said they offered them money. Slow down a little and read the words, don't just scan them.
I do honor the fact that your ancestors made such valuable contributions to the American - and global - scientific communities.
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Orange Blooded [3416]
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She was well meaning, I get it then & do now
Feb 18, 2024, 3:36 PM
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At same time, I wanted things to be my decision & feel comfortable in that choice.
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When they do ask for tickets, be sure to say nope.***
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Feb 18, 2024, 3:24 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I doubt they'll be around much for home games.
Feb 18, 2024, 3:44 PM
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But, they're always welcome just as I was welcomed as an outsider.
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Re: Generational split with fanbase implications
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Feb 18, 2024, 4:11 PM
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Two generations of my family went to USuC before me, I went to Clemson. My son, approaching college-age, has no interest in Clemson whatsoever. It matters not.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Maybe you're right. Maybe it doesn't matter a whit.
Feb 18, 2024, 4:20 PM
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It feels like it matters, though, when a century-long family tradition comes to an end
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Re: Maybe you're right. Maybe it doesn't matter a whit.
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Feb 18, 2024, 4:21 PM
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I know what you mean, and my parents were surprised that I went to Clemson and I’m disappointed my son has no interest in Clemson, but in the end I’m just glad he’s interested in college, period. I have another one who has no interest in college at all, and it’s heartbreaking.
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Rock Defender [54]
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I wish some of the kids would get into trades
Feb 18, 2024, 6:58 PM
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my family owned an oil business - drilling, mostly - and trades were always in short supply. Plenty of accountants and lawyers though.
But like you, Im glad they all have ambition.
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Re: Generational split with fanbase implications
Feb 18, 2024, 4:21 PM
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If not Clemson? Where is he interested? I do know that SEC schools are tossing a lot of money towards students.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Well, Auburn certainly is.
Feb 18, 2024, 6:41 PM
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They're throwing about $20k at one of the kids based on their ACT score, alone.
Don't know about the others. Vandy doesn't throw money at anyone LOL.
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Re: Generational split with fanbase implications
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Feb 18, 2024, 8:53 PM
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You are correct on that. My wife and I graduated from Clemson and my oldest daughter is there as well. My youngest daughter only looked at and applied to SEC schools because they offer a ton of out of state money for test scores and valedictorians and they are the kings of the sports world. She’s taking a full 4 year ride to Bama. Sometimes it’s more than legacy. Go tigers and Roll Tide!
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