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Future of ACC hinges on one thing only
Nov 28, 2012, 10:24 AM
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the lawsuit against Maryland. If Maryland can get out of the 50 million dollar exit fee, the ACC will implode. If not, it will remain and and 2-3 more teams. Biggest issue ACC faces is one that is not correctable, and that's geography. We just happen to share territory with the SEC, and they will always generate far more money. No other conference is in direct geographical competition with them, as 8 ACC schools are. Their really is not a good option for these 8 schools as far as realignment goes, as they will geographically isolated no matter where they moved, other than the SEC. Only real hope is to improve in football across the board, and that is unlikely any time soon. Sadly, we are in a place with very few options, so the best option is fight for a stronger ACC that holds together.
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Re: The ACC took a team the SEC turned down, not good***
Nov 28, 2012, 10:28 AM
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WE are a team the SEC turned down. geez***
Nov 28, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Agree. Other than that what is holding any of this together?
Nov 28, 2012, 10:28 AM
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ND=NOT!
Basketball, basketball, basketball--Perhaps
Football-LOL.
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Legend [16207]
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Maryland WILL get out for less than $50 million.
Nov 28, 2012, 10:32 AM
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They are leaving one way or another. Assuming they could not get out for less than $50 million they are gone anyway. Not unless you believe the move to secure Louisville is contingent on Maryland being successful leaving the ACC.
Personally, I don't give a frap about the ACC. I've been wishing for years that we leave.
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The money is the key
Nov 28, 2012, 10:38 AM
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Maryland's AD is broke. Now, they are going to have to pony up possibly millions of dollars in attorney fees to fight this battle, while the ACC will divide those fees. The ACC cannot compromise as that will mean the league blows up. This is a do or die proposition for the ACC. Every current member knows if Maryland gets out of the fee, the league implodes.
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Legend [16207]
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But Maryland is gone already.
Nov 28, 2012, 10:46 AM
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If they were not then they would not be voting already to add Louisville.
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That's not the issue . . .
Nov 28, 2012, 10:48 AM
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the issue is the fee, not their departure. If the fee is avoided, then other ACC members know that if they want to leave, the cost of doing such won't be prohibitive.
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But will their be a financial penalty for leaving?
Nov 28, 2012, 10:55 AM
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The 50 million is the roadblock to future attrition. Maryland cannot afford that, they are broke, which means if it is enforced, they B1G will have to help a lot. If it is enforced, a mass exodus to the Big XII(our only other option) is less likely as you multiply the number of schools by 50 mil. Only way Big XII is feasible for us is with multiple partners in the move to insure realistic scheduling
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Re: Future of ACC hinges on one thing only
Nov 28, 2012, 10:34 AM
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All true except I am not sure the ACC should add the other teams. I think they should have stayed at 12 and only expand if ND can ever be forced to join a conference fulltime.
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Re: Future of ACC hinges on one thing only
Nov 28, 2012, 10:34 AM
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Agree 100%.
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best option would be for the good football schools
Nov 28, 2012, 10:36 AM
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in the ACC to jump to the Big XII and make a 18 school super conference with east and west divisions.
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Can only do that if exit fee is reduced greatly
Nov 28, 2012, 10:44 AM
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let's say that us, FSU, VT, NCST, GT, UM all decide to jump to Big XII. That's 300 million dollars in exit fees. Big XII can't help substantially with that, which means each school would have to pony up the bulk of it themselves. FSU's AD is in the red. Everything hinges on this lawsuit
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Then again, if a cash strapped school like Mary Land can
Nov 28, 2012, 11:04 AM
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come up with 50 mill, then every school in the ACC should be able to do the same.
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2 points
Nov 28, 2012, 11:08 AM
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1) Maryland has the Under Armour guy as a benefactor
2) they are one school, the B1G could assist if they are forced to pay the 50 million. If they have to pay, then a partner deal to a conference like the Big XII becomes a 100, 150, 200, 300 million dollar proposition. Not much a conference can do to help if the dollar figures get that high
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Re: 2 points
Nov 28, 2012, 11:47 AM
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It all depends on how you move. If you move a team or two at the time to other conferences then the fee is not really a problem as long as the two additions added enough to the new conference to make each team there 2 million more a year, and that's really a minimal number. Most leagues are at least 14 by now. That means they simply do not receive a raise for your addition for three years. That's 42 million of your 50. If you can't swing 8 you are in trouble. At the end of three years everybody gets the raise.
The other way is prior to a mass exodus make sure you have a 3/4's majority to dissolve the ACC. That's why Swafford is adding teams in advance. He wants to avoid a vote to either eliminate the 50 million or to dissolve. That's likely why Syracuse and Pitt already have a say. Otherwise 8 get's you out.
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Legend [19729]
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Actually, 9 votes is 3/4 right now, not 8
Nov 28, 2012, 11:51 AM
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which means solidarity on tobacco road blocks anything
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