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FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:16 PM
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Answer one very simple question honestly;
If Clemson could play either FSU or Bama next weekend, which would you rather play, simply from the standpoint of which team you think we would have a better chance of beating?
I don’t like or necessarily agree with what the committee did, but I do think they picked the best 4 teams as of right now.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:18 PM
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NO! How can you be so blind to the facts?
By the qualifications...the more qualified team was left out.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:21 PM
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So you think we would have a better chance of beating Bama Saturday?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:25 PM
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If you wanna go by speculation is new mexico state better than Alabama which needed a miracle to beat Auburn. Whilst N mexico state steamroller Auburn. I guess new mexico state is better right?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 1:29 PM
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So you would rather play Bama than FSU Saturday?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 1:34 PM
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Bama because we own them and they can't beat New Mexico State. Easy win
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 1:37 PM
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Sure.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 1:39 PM
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I mean speculation and hypothetically goes both ways.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 2:25 PM
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Yea. And you missed the word honestly in the original hypothetical question.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 2:29 PM
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🙄
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Looks like you are getting mainly emotional answers
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:58 PM
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rhettfla ... Maybe we do need tampon machines in the Men's Rooms based on this outpouring of emotion on TigerNet when the selection was a cut and dried business, viewership and football decision.
And all this from TigerNet fans who want to be part of ESPN/SEC or Fox Sports/B1G. The response is twisted and dishonest from so many Tnetters who want nothing to do with the ACC.
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Re: Looks like you are getting mainly emotional answers
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Dec 3, 2023, 2:31 PM
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That is correct. And emotionally, I am pizzed off that FSU was left out. But rationally, I understand. Answering the question I asked helped me see this from a rational rather than emotional standpoint.
And I really get the emotional response on here when I say Roll Tide! I hope Bama rolls Meechigan.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:44 PM
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Didn’t Bama just beat the #1 team on a neutral field.
Not sure why NM St and Auburn play into this discussion.
Auburn and Bama is a rival game and if you have ever watched that series crazy things happen in those games.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:52 PM
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It's still speculative and hypothetical claiming rivalry games. If that's the case then Louisville Kentucky is rivalry and Florida and Florida State is rivalry. Who would win next week pick FSu or Bama is speculative. Watch the tape between NM state vs Auburn and Alabama vs Auburn. NM state look like the better team based on their destruction of Auburn so called eye test. IT GIES BOTH WAYS
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 2:27 PM
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I didn’t ask who would win. I asked your opinion as a Clemson fan who you would rather play. Reading comprehension is a lost art.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 2:28 PM
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I just gave you answer sir I said Alabama. You got a problem with that sir. I told you about speculative. You mad bro🙄
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 3:02 PM
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Not mad at all. Seem to be one of the few not acting emotionally regarding this subject. And I ain’t yo bro, scooter.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 4:15 PM
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Well go to he'll then for all I care😆
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No, per the committee they beat the #6 team by 3.
Dec 3, 2023, 8:10 PM
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The committee was obviously 5 spots wrong about UGA last week by their own admission. Remember results don’t matter to them, only what the think week to week
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:39 PM
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FSU was the better team? They said they were taking the top 4 teams. FSU is not currently a top 10 team with what they are dealing with.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:23 PM
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Definitely.
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I think Oregon and Oh St would beat all 3
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:25 PM
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Why are they not in the discussion?
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Re: I think Oregon and Oh St would beat all 3
Dec 3, 2023, 1:30 PM
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You didn’t answer the question.
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Re: I think Oregon and Oh St would beat all 3
Dec 3, 2023, 1:33 PM
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They didn’t do enough to be one of the last 2 teams in consideration for the last spot.
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Re: I think Oregon and Oh St would beat all 3
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:47 PM
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Oregon got beat by the same team twice and tOSU got beat by a Michigan team that will once again prove they are over rated as is the B1G most years.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:27 PM
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"Better team" is not supposed to matter "Better Season" is what matters. the CFP committee just voided the entire season.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:41 PM
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They reiterated numerous times that they wanted the four best teams. Lot of ebb and flows in a season and FSU is not the same team they had during the season.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 1:48 PM
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does not matter, that team is an undefeated P5 champion. In my opinion, FSU should decline the orange bowl invitation.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 3:10 PM
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FSU is all about money and they have to be they are still having to pay-off Jimbo and Willie's contracts FSU would never turn down the money bowls ( especially Orange Bowl ) .
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:55 PM
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So then skip the season and take the preseason rankings. The truth is you don’t know which team is better unless they play. What if Milroe gets injured in Dec practice, are they going to pull the invite?
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No!***
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:39 PM
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 1:45 PM
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Answer one very simple question honestly;
If Clemson could play either FSU or Bama next weekend, which would you rather play, simply from the standpoint of which team you think we would have a better chance of beating?
I don’t like or necessarily agree with what the committee did, but I do think they picked the best 4 teams as of right now.
Agreed. Had those 4 picked last night. Like Galloway stated it really was not that difficult to figure out.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2023, 1:58 PM
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Yes, they picked the best four teams right now. The problem is that essentially invalidates what actually happened on the football field for the last 13 weeks. And if that’s the case, why play the game at all?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
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Dec 3, 2021, 11:51 PM
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Money
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 2:42 PM
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that’s certainly the way the committee operates. it’s all about ratings, not what was done on the football field. that’s what ruling off of hypotheticals looks like
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IF UGA wins last night,FSU is in
Dec 3, 2023, 2:29 PM
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Texas and Bama are out !
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 2:30 PM
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I like our chances against Bama better than Ohio st and Oregon.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 3:06 PM
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They didn’t do enough to be in the discussion. Do you like our chances against Bama better than against FSU?
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The POC was justified when they incuded a 1 loss Bama before.
Dec 3, 2023, 2:45 PM
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I believe, with great confidence that every PO year the best team has worn the crown. FSU could only hope to win the first game.
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Re: The POC was justified when they incuded a 1 loss Bama before.
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Dec 3, 2023, 3:10 PM
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I agree. Most of the whining and crying is positions 3 or 4 and usually aren’t going to win it all anyway. This year might be different. I don’t think we can count Bama out.
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I thought FSU vs. Michigan was going to be a good game.***
Dec 3, 2023, 3:53 PM
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Re: I thought FSU vs. Michigan was going to be a good game.***
Dec 3, 2023, 3:59 PM
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It would have been about as good as Michigan-Iowa. Two good defenses but not enough offense from FSU to be competitive.
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You think Washington is better than UGA? Seriously...
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Dec 3, 2023, 3:54 PM
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Don't be dense.
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Re: You think Washington is better than UGA? Seriously...
Dec 3, 2023, 4:04 PM
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Watching both teams yesterday that wouldn’t be a stretch at all. GA defense is not as good as they usually are and Washington has a very explosive offense. GA is not as good offensively with McClonkey and Bowers less than 100% as they were earlier in the year. I would like Washington’s chances against GA a lot more than FSU’s chances against GA.
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Re: You think Washington is better than UGA? Seriously...
Dec 3, 2023, 4:09 PM
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Georgia would have 200 yds rushing and dominate TOP
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 3:59 PM
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Of course not. Alabama went from being a laughing stock against Auburn 2 weeks ago to being in the playoff. The only reason they didn't drop 2 places in the rankings after Auburn game was they were already the lowest ranked 1 loss team.
This decision was a complete joke, but it does keep the SUC relevant.
I'd be pissed if I was FSU.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 4:12 PM
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My initial, emotional reaction was that I’m pizzed that FSU didn’t get in. But when I stopped and asked myself if I would rather play Bama or FSU right now, it made a lot more sense to me. I also think this is completely different than the logic the committee has used in every other year prior to this. I was really hoping they would put FSU in and leave the SEC out but figured there would be little chance of that actually happening.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 8:22 PM
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If fsu beats UGA- I’d say the championship title is in dispute.
Do you agree with that?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 3:59 PM
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So the eye test on the last game of the season (and not the next to last game) wins out over what a team did over the course of the season. Ridiculous and no I do not think the committee got it right.
The committee may as well admit that the criteria for choosing involves listening to the ESPN spin machine. 😡
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 4:04 PM
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Some people may rather play Bama for the challenge, but no one in their right mind would say we have a better chance of beating Bama instead of FSU.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right? YES!
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Dec 3, 2023, 4:07 PM
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Yes they got it right. The 4 BEST teams are in. FSU w/o their starter is not a top 4 team! Case closed.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 4:13 PM
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Your whole argument is wrong. It should never be about who can beat who and who’s playing the best at the end of the year. The whole season matters.
FSU deserved their shot. Hack Mich could throw three picks abd FSU wins 23-24 who’s freaking knows. But if you went off of who would win agains who at the end then the it would be a mess. It would probably be
Bama
GA
Michigan
Washington/Texas
But that’s not how it goes. The regular season matters.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 7:32 PM
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I’m not making an argument. I even said I don’t like or agree with what the committee did. But I can rationalize the decision based on the fact that I would rather play FSU than Bama as both teams stand right now. Judging by the video of the Meechigan team’s reaction when #4 was announced, I believe they feel the same way.
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Lets not play at all and let the commitee award
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Dec 3, 2023, 4:14 PM
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the National Championship. Why should games mean anything?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 7:54 PM
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The fact is FSU earned a spot in the CFP’s it does not matter who you want to play. You play the team who earned there way into the playoffs.
Ask yourself this question??? If it was not Bama coached by Saban would bama have gotten in the CFP.
My opinion is no they would not. Texas earned their way in, FSU earned their way in Bama was gifted in. They did not earn their way in.
ESPN for ratings and pure Greed to pair Bama against Texas or Michigan in the finals. It’s all about the the $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Just pure greed regardless of who ESPN had to step on,
Would those who think the committee got it right feel that way if it was Clemson on the outside looking in ???
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I honestly think Clemson would beat either of them now
Dec 3, 2023, 8:03 PM
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The defense has been playing so well late in the year neither FSU nor Bama would score much against us. Milroe would make a few crazy run around plays but he'd be running around in the backfield a lot.
If we stuck to the zone read running game I think we'd get enough points on Bama, more than Auburn got anyway.
I really want to see Mich tear up Bama's run defense.
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Florida Sate is more deserving, Bama is the better team right now.
Dec 3, 2023, 8:05 PM
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Does the committee pick the best, or do they pick the most deserving? If they want the best, then they got it right. If it’s deserving, they got it wrong.
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Re: Florida Sate is more deserving, Bama is the better team right now.
Dec 3, 2023, 8:12 PM
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That is exactly the way I see it too. Not saying I agree. It’s also frustrating that the committee seems to be looking at it differently this year than they have in past years. They have always said their job was to pick the 4 best teams, but I don’t think they have ever had to deal with the gap between best team and most deserving team that they ran into this year.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 8:08 PM
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Ok here’s a follow up question. What order would you want to play Washington Georgia and Alabama?
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 8:31 PM
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Good question. I would really have a hard time separating them. Maybe would rather play Washington just because I think we match up better with them because our defense is good enough to really slow down their offense and I don’t think their defense is as good as Bama’s or Georgia’s so that would give our offense a little better chance. Just like we saw last night, I don’t think there is much separation between Bama and GA. I think Bama’s defense may be a little better than GA’s but I think GA’s offense is better than Bama’s IF Bowers and McClonkey are both healthy. So I guess I would want to play Washington first then GA and last Bama because GA and Bama are so similar and I’d give Bama the edge on coaching.
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Washington is the weakest. You could leave them
Dec 3, 2023, 8:33 PM
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out and out Georgia in too and I wouldn’t be upset about it. Ohio State also has a case. I’d take Ohio State over Washington.
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Re: FSU/Bama did the committee get it right?
Dec 3, 2023, 8:18 PM
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No...in fact of precedent Ohio State deserves the spot more than Bama...but dumping an undefeated conference champ in FSU and retaining a conference champ in Washington who squeaked by in a conference with no defense the committee has turned the ACC into trash and the committee decision into a laughable gift to what should have been a 2 lossjoke! The whole committee should resign or be fired!
Then they can all truly go to work for the SEC or Disney as clowns!
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Dont care either way - I think Bama is the
Dec 3, 2023, 8:19 PM
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better team especially with the fsu qb out but again doesn’t matter to me.
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The FSU offense you saw last night
Dec 3, 2023, 8:20 PM
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would have 4 more weeks of reps and prep for their backup QB to be ready
FSU earned the right to prove they belonged or not.
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