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Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 9:17 AM
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if you take 1 bad season as reason to fire a coach, Coach Howard would have been let go many times. Let Dabo do his job. He knows coaches need to go, or things will only get worse.
The worst can sometimes bring about needed change. That’s my take on this season, and hopefully that needed change starts today. Everyone needs to be held accountable, and everyone needs to shoulder the blame. You can bet there will be coaching changes at the end of the season, because Dabo is seeing for himself that professionals need to be coached by professionals. My guess is that Conn, Spiller, and a couple others will be replaced at season’s end. It will be an interesting offseason for the Clemson Football team.
Dabo deserves the same respect as Coach Howard was afforded.
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I don't disagree in principle, but the reality is that rightly or wrongly
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Nov 3, 2025, 9:33 AM
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it's a very, very different world not only in college football, but Clemson's place in college football and the expectations that go with that.
I love Dabo and everything he's done, and I support his efforts to get this corected. He'll always be remembered with respect and admiration by Clemson fans. But this ain't 1969.
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Re: I don't disagree in principle, but the reality is that rightly or wrongly
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Nov 4, 2025, 12:07 AM
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Clemson's place in college football is a program who had a flash in the pan 10 year ago and fell off. We are back in the early 2000s now, enjoy it
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I think Dabo replaces more coaches than we are expecting. A lot more !***
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Nov 3, 2025, 9:50 AM
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Re: I think Dabo replaces more coaches than we are expecting. A lot more !***
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:06 PM
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If he only replaces 3 or 4 it won't solve the coaching problem. 90% of the coaching staff are incompetent and brought no experience to the job. A complete house cleaning needs to take place. You replace incompetent coaching tree with experienced coaches and you are far ahead of where you currently find the team sinking like the titanic.
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: I think Dabo replaces more coaches than we are expecting. A lot more !***
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:07 PM
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He can replace the whole staff and it won't solve the problem.
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Re: I think Dabo replaces more coaches than we are expecting.
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:49 PM
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Wonder if Dabo is the Blockbusters of college coaching?
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Nov 3, 2025, 9:51 AM
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The changing business dynamics create obsolescence?
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Re: Wonder if Dabo is the Blockbusters of college coaching?
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Nov 3, 2025, 10:06 AM
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Dabo and NIL in 2021 is blockbuster when they laughed Netflix out of the room when Netflix offered to sell to blockbuster for $50M
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
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Well said sir. Coach Howard will always be my GOAT. I can only dream what would have been if he had coached in this era and kept his same personality.
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Valley Protector [1464]
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 10:42 AM
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Howard went 3-7 in 1964 and 5-5 the next year and wasn't fired. He had 7 seasons at .500 or worse once in the ACC.
Expectations were different then.
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:09 PM
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The expectations now are not in line with the realities of current College football.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109422]
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If they had social media back in his days, I know he would have had some epic
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Nov 3, 2025, 10:50 AM
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lines. lol
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Re: If they had social media back in his days, I know he would have had some epic
Nov 3, 2025, 9:36 PM
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Hahahaha!!!
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True, but he made $25K. Granted that's over $200K today, adjusted
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Nov 3, 2025, 11:22 AM
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for inflation. Decent pay, but nothing crazy. Easier to cut coaches a little slack when they're not signing $100 million contracts. I also remember Charlie Pell said he and wife danced in the kitchen when he got the phone call to coach Clemson for $40K in 1977. Very different times.
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Coach Howard did alot of good things for Clemson football
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:14 PM
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but he only won 55% of his games. That would get any coach at a major program fired these days.
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How much money was Clemson putting into football back then?
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:17 PM
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These days we have one of the highest recruiting budgets in the country as well as what Dabo makes and what we put into facilities etc.
also college football was not really much of a business back then.
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Clemson Conqueror [12018]
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Re: How much money was Clemson putting into football back then?
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:29 PM
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How much money is football putting in the Clemson these days?
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:32 PM
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He will get his opportunity but he need to be bold and results need to show improvement quickly.
If we sit here next season with similar results, there should not be more chances to come.
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Then pay him Howards salary.***
Nov 3, 2025, 1:47 PM
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Re: Then pay him Howards salary.***
Nov 3, 2025, 9:38 PM
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That’s stupid
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:51 PM
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We live in a different time and era Dabo wont be fired this year but he's on the grill and should be his pay is for big-time football and this isn't cutting it look at his last 2 hires Allen is allready a disappointment !
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We were NOT the juggernaut people revision history us to be under Frank Howard.
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Nov 3, 2025, 1:55 PM
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He did good and laid the foundation for all that has occurred since then.
We were no where near any kinda force . . . . at all.
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Rightfully so. He was a .580 coach and only .500 vs the coots.
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Nov 3, 2025, 2:00 PM
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All people remember is that he was here for a million years and gave us the Rock.
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Re: Rightfully so. He was a .580 coach and only .500 vs the coots.
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Nov 3, 2025, 9:39 PM
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Wrong… Coach Howard was an institution unto himself.
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
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Nov 3, 2025, 9:34 PM
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Sorry… I’ve been at a golf tournament all day. Awesome day!!! I just got finished reading all the replies, and most were not off the rail. I really feel that the fans are the biggest change over the years. We all demand more of our teams now than in the past.It may be the money or not, but it will always come down to blocking and tackling and we are not doing either well right now. I’ve been patient, but it’s time for Dabo to make some needed changes. I still trust him to make those changes on both sides of the ball.
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Re: Frank Howard wound have been fired 20+ times
Nov 5, 2025, 2:52 PM
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I'm not entirely sure Frank Howard would have left if he had been fired. 
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