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Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Orange Blooded [2280]
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Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 4:36 PM
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The defense has been on a steady decline the last three years. We have a better roster that these stats show. It’s coaching or the lack there of. The at South Dakota St is someone to take a hard look at. Pork Chop has got to go.
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Orange Blooded [2280]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 4:37 PM
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DC at South Dakota St.
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Tiger Titan [47409]
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Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 4:49 PM
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Perhaps he was wrong.
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Legend [6802]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:00 PM
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All-TigerNet [5848]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:13 PM
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Don't get your panties in a wad bluejay...quit whining and
insinuating Dabo is a liar. We are 10-3 with the ACCCG title
and headed for the CFB playoff and you are crying like a little
girl.Are tou kin to Judge Keller?
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Legend [6802]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:15 PM
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I called Keller a clown you moron.
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All-TigerNet [5848]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:08 PM
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Now bluejay,you can do better than that.Perk up. Wipe them tears and
lets enjoy what we have,which ain't bad in my book. Go Tigers.
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Legend [6802]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:11 PM
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My goodness you get more clueless by the day
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All-TigerNet [5848]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:32 PM
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You are now correct Bluejay...wipe them tears and
Go Tigers....I hope that you and cuz Keller have
a Merry Christmas and a Happy new year.
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Rival Killer [2721]
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Dude, he literally was calling JK a clown
Dec 17, 2024, 12:16 PM
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you are 100% wrong
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Solid Orange [1309]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
Dec 17, 2024, 12:38 PM
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Blue Jay, don't be so down. We still have a lot to play for this year. You don't need to be insulting people who believe in our team. We can do this. So chin up bucko.
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Legend [6802]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
Dec 17, 2024, 12:47 PM
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What are you talking about?
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Redshirt [96]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
Dec 18, 2024, 10:54 AM
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I’m sorry. You apparently walked into the glue sniffers thread
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Rival Killer [3098]
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Commissioner [1241]
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Re: Isn't Goodwin in Austin with Dabo?
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:19 PM
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This is exactly the only problem with the success Clemson has had now.
It gives justification to those who say no change is needed.
Extremely happy to be ACC Champ and in the CFP but it’s ignorant to ignore the fact that the defense needs to be better and the way to fix that is a change in leadership/voice in the room.
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Oculus Spirit [39163]
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Its too bad we win so much
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:26 PM
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or people would listen when I want someone fired so we can win.”
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Rival Killer [3098]
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Stopped reading at "the only problem with the success Clemson has had ..."
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Dec 18, 2024, 10:51 AM
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It takes a unique sort of mind to find a problem with success. I do not have one of those minds and so cannot really engage with you. Sorry.
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Clemson Icon [25678]
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Re: Dabo assured us that Goodwin was ready for the job.
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:29 PM
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Maybe he just needs 14 years to accomplish something, liking winning the conference. Oh wait he did that. What coach do we have that has never won a conference championship?
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 4:52 PM
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Main stat that is hard to measure is with the game on the line we know that the defense won’t hold. An end of 4th quarter td is guaranteed to be surrendered. My guess is we gave up 7 or 8 tds in the last 5 minutes of games this year. Fortunately some were leads too big to choke away.
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CU Medallion [19814]
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And out 4th Quarter offense is nonexistent.***
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:25 PM
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:34 PM
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That’s funny that you bring that up. Could you also post the amount of time the defense is on the field in the second half? Seems to me that there is a correlation between our offense performance in the second half and the defenses ability to get stops. Defensive performance in most games has been great in the first half.
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All-American [563]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 4:58 PM
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Hard to argue against that. Some still will tell you everything is fine.
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Rival Killer [3098]
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I wonder if you're serious.
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:07 PM
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It's hard to decide.
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Solid Orange [1396]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:08 PM
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The defense hadn't been on a steady decline. For total defense, the rankings for the last 3 years:
2022 - 29th
2023 - 8th
2024 - 66th
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Legend [6802]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:14 PM
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Those stats need some analysis. We are way better than 66.
For much of the season, huge portions of the yardage allowed were with second and third stringers. Other than our coaches making boneheaded 2nd half decisions against SC and SMU, I feel pretty confident with our starters out there.
Some of that also falls to the offense for shutting it down half the game. That impacts the flow of the game, momentum, and fatigue.
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Dynasty Maker [3127]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:37 PM
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Here comes the spin…
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Dynasty Maker [3318]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:23 PM
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Defense is young very little experience ! Next year pork chop will fine!
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110%er [3655]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:34 PM
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Not sure why we had that drop off in experience when all our grad students finished up and we suddenly had a bunch of sophomores on the field(?)
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CU Medallion [20701]
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Re: Only stat that matters
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:31 PM
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Whatever Dabo wants…
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 5:52 PM
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The stats track with our drop in talent due to Dabo’s NIL stance plus Covid era recruiting
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Oculus Spirit [39215]
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This Post is Insulting to Great Pork Chops***
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:13 PM
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Top TigerNet [32235]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:22 PM
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I thought this was going to talk about best way to fire up grill for pork chops. Click bait!
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Game Changer [1806]
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Imho its the offense inconsistency thats the problem
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:23 PM
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I see the defensive stats look not good
But it’s the O that lost the three this year..
@Uga 3 points?
Vs Louisville The O had no energy zero none
Vs Coots 13.5 per game vs these Suckers
Wow
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CU Medallion [18975]
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When you chump out with the name calling like that for our DC
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:28 PM
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to dis on him in a post like this it's disrespectful and crappy. Beyond that you know a snail's shell worth of D next to this guy, and even less about how all of our parts there are working together like you think it all should be.
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Orange Beast [6303]
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Learn to use
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Dec 16, 2024, 6:33 PM
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ROTATE
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Game Changer [2069]
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Thats false. We were 6th in the country last year.
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Dec 17, 2024, 9:29 AM
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Swing and a miss.
B!tch on brother.
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Offensive Star [318]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 17, 2024, 9:34 AM
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This topic has been discussed over and over. Obviously Dabo ain’t gonna fire Wes so y’all get over it and let’s pull the Tigers to victory!!
Go Tigers!!
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National Champion [7453]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
Dec 17, 2024, 12:35 PM
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Just look at the Team Defense rankings the last 3 seasons
2022: 22nd
2023: 32nd
2024: 43rd
I don't know what more we have to see. It's not like this defense is devoid of talent either. Just look at the sheer amount of 5 and 4 stars that we have on defense. To make matters worse, we play in the ACC against mediocre offenses. The fact that we don't have a top 10 defense with our talent, playing against the type of competition we see in our conference, is embarrassing.
Barrett Carter
Jaedyn Lukus
Peter Woods
Sammy Brown
Demonte Capehart
Tre Williams
RJ Mickens
Payton Page
Cade Denhoff
Zaire Patterson
Sherrod Covil
Caden Story
TJ Parker
Vic Burley
Stephiylan Green
Jamal Anderson
Ronan Hanafin
AJ Hoffler
Kylen Webb
Brendan Strozier
Khalil Barnes
Avieon Terrell
Darien Mayo
Corian Gipson
Tavoy Feagin
Noah Dixon
Hevin Brown-Shuler
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Solid Orange [1396]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 17, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Your statistics are incorrect. The last three years, the rankings for total defense are:
2022 - 29th
2023 - 8th
2024 - 66th
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Legend [6802]
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Solid Orange [1396]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
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Dec 17, 2024, 12:56 PM
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The other poster said Team Defense, not Scoring Defense. I understand your point, that the statistic he quoted is Scoring Defense, but he doesn't know that. He thinks it's Total Defense.
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Rival Killer [2630]
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No they don't. Losers look at numbers on paper and say that.***
Dec 17, 2024, 12:49 PM
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Campus Hero [14054]
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It does feel frustrating to watch his defense sometimes but
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Dec 17, 2024, 1:07 PM
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1) Our "total" stats are a bit skewed this year. Our reserves put up some atrocious performances earlier this year while we had big leads. If you look at advanced metrics that filter out garbage time, our defense has been more respectable. Heading into the SMU game the D was 20th in SP+ and 17th in FPI. Source: https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-football/news/clemson-smu-acc-championship-game-projections-45178
2) Our defense was very, very good last year so it's not like this has been some slow and steady decline under Wes. We had some issues in the secondary during the first half of his first season in 2022, but started playing better later in the season, and then we had a very good defense last year. This year has been a bit of a decline, but it doesn't seem as bad as some people make it out to be.
It feels like our offense gets much more of a pass for bumbling around and doing nothing for entire halves of games than Wes ever gets. Maybe it's because Brent set the bar higher.
This is the kind of thing i see on here:
-Clemson enters halftime with 21-7 lead
-Clemson offense gets 3 first downs over next 25 minutes and scores no points
-Clemson defense gives up 2 TDs to tie the game
-Tigernet loses its mind at Wes for blowing the lead
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Athletic Dir [1104]
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Re: Stats that justify the firing of Pork Chop
Dec 18, 2024, 12:12 PM
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Man you’re really gonna make the pumpers mad with this one, data is in direct conflict with their orange colored glasses
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