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Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 10:11 AM
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Im really afraid they do. How do we miss/fail to develop so many QBs?! We haven't had a quality QB room since 2020. If we dont portal a QB, next year will be worse than this nightmare.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 10:13 AM
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The ONLY way we will transfer in an elite QB is if someone else is our head coach. It ain't happening with Dabo.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 10:22 AM
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If the decision is made not to go after a good portal QB as well as LB, DE, OL or 2, corner if Terrell leaves, and at least go after any other elite player that may be an upgrade then Dabo will have lost me. You don’t have to build your team with the portal, but next year is an example of a year when we will need it at several positions.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 6, 2025, 12:54 PM
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Amen. This is the biggest offseason already, with the potential to be even bigger if we get some surprise losses to the portal.
If Dabo doesn’t go big in the portal, and make an almost complete makeover of the staff, I think we will know it’s over.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 2:14 PM
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We have no idea what Swinney will do, although I am sure he is well aware that Vizzina is no living up to his recruiting hype. Chris Denson is Riley's first QB recruit, and I would not be shocked to see him make some noise in the spring. We should see at least a half dozen portal transfers this year, if not, then next season is going to be rough and Dabo needs to be asked some tough questions abut the direction of the program. I think Saban Spelled it pretty clearly for him last week.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 6:27 AM
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I agree. He gives off Woody Dantzler vibes.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 10:41 AM
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Woody was faster and could throw
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 1:04 PM
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I was referring to Denison, left handed freshman from Florida.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 10:19 AM
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Vizz looks on the level of APP State or an ECU. I don't see him starting at CU.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 2:07 PM
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He is Hunter Johnson reincarnated…
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 10:24 AM
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Does the anyone really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 10:30 AM
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What the heck do you expect them to say? Really now. He is our back up. So if Cade goes down he is all we have. So lets’ all just start saying he is not going to be the next quarterback. Yeah lets just cut him to the bone. Come on now.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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I don’t see how anyone can say he isn’t good enough to start? I haven’t seen him play any meaningful snaps, only rare mop up opportunities where he gets put in to control the clock and end a game. Unless you have a magical crystal ball where you see inside of practices I don’t see where you can know. To cut a kids throat and let him see he has no opportunity that’s how you lose a team. There’s also a 4 star kid redshirting and another who finished at the top of the elite 11 camp. If you want FSU problems go be FSU fans. Things aren’t always as good as they seem and are never as bad as they look.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 11:19 AM
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FSU problems? Wanting to portal an elite QB is an FSU problem?
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 12:11 PM
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Yeah, I don't get the fsu comment several posters have been throwing out. Using the portal to fill a few impt. spots that need filling is not building a whole team by taking 20-70 portal players. Some heads stuck in the sand just don't want to take a single player from the portal.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 1:09 PM
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In order to get an elite qb, we would have to tamper. Is that what you’re asking Dabo to do? Any elite player already knows where they’re going before they enter the portal. I know there are diamonds in the rough, but dang, 95 percent aren’t good enough wherever they were. I could be wrong, but just don’t see Dabo sinking to the crooked level of tampering; nor do I want him to!
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 7:23 PM
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Yes. Dabo Swinney needs to tamper. Flash the rings and trophy’s and tell an elite QB he wants him to bring home number 3.
College football isnt a place anymore for the meek, beta’s that are to good to get their hands dirty.
It’s not 2018 anymore and it’s time for the HC and a very vocal minority of the fans to realize it. Wake up!
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 11:05 PM
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Duke got their QB out of Tulane who is killing it this year. I doubt they tampered but they did compete well for his services and paid the price. We don’t even want to compete.
This is professional football now. Can you imagine a NFL franchise that refuses to use free agency and only focuses on the draft?
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 2:01 PM
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FSU has had two consecutive portal QBs.
DJU, we all know how that turned out.
Thomas Castellanos, we are seeing that he is the same (pretty good, hardly great) QB that he was at BC.
We TNetters tend to look at a very high dollar NIL QB like Carson Beck as being out there for any school to get. Those ‘any schools’ that get a Carson Beck esque QB have more $$$ to spend than Clemson. Or FSU.
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How do you know?
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Oct 6, 2025, 5:54 AM
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This argument feels like a blind defense of Dabo without any actual data to back up your argument.
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Legend [6887]
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Re: How do you know?
Oct 6, 2025, 6:23 AM
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I with you on that JK.. I've heard Dabo himself say Clemson has plenty of money... so the argument is not valid about money...
I think we have a belief that our Coach just will not participate in what is college football now...
Heavy portal for top positions will be needed for next year!!
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 2:40 PM
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Do you think kids will commit to play somewhere if they are going to be replaced by a portal player before they ever get a chance to play and show what they can do? And no getting an elite player regardless of position isn’t FSU problems, but an above poster wants Qb, lb, ok, dl, corners etc. That is exactly what FSU does portal a whole team. Instant gratification isn’t always the answer. Sometimes you have to recruit, develop and allow players to play and learn.
In 129 years Clemson has 3 national titles and 28 conference titles. Dabo has 2 of the national titles and 9 conference titles he deserves a chance to fix the problem. I don’t know if it can be fixed by him but he has earned the right to try. Needs to fix the OC and wr coaching problems and trim down his staff to start. I think there’s plenty enough talent to win just needs to get back to hard nosed coaches who demand perfection. Like Nick Saban says you don’t practice until you get it right, you practice until you can’t get it wrong.
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Recruiting and developing sounds better than using the portal
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until you realize that we don’t recruit or develop as well as we used to. That, coupled with other teams successfully using the portal to get immediate help, makes it crystal clear that we are putting ourselves at a huge disadvantage when we don’t use the portal.
We really shouldn’t even be having this conversation in 2025. If we want to be better than decent/good in this era of college football, we must use the portal every year to address positions of need. Full stop.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 9:18 PM
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Pearman was great in spring game a couple years ago!
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 10:45 AM
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I’m not sure if the entire coaching staff believes that to be the case, but Dabo sure does. That is why he’s the current QB2.
Haven’t seen a lot of positives from him, but it’s hard for him to improve when he hasn’t had much PT. No way we were going to keep rolling in DW or TL type guys.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 10:14 AM
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Clemson is not rolling in Watson/Lawrence type
QBs because of current coaching staff plus
portal and NIL issues with current HC.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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In 3 years at Clemson he's 25-45, 225 yards, 0 tds, 0 ints. All with 2nd and 3rd teamers. I'd hardly say that's enough of a sample size to state unequivocally "he sucks". Now it doesn't scream Heisman either. All I'm saying is pump your brakes. Give him significant reps withe the 1s he might surprise. I'm not willing to cast him aside but it sure wouldn't hurt for Dabo to give the portal more than a cursory glance.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 10:52 AM
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I'm not willing to cast him aside but it sure wouldn't hurt for Dabo to give the portal more than a cursory glance.
Don’t worry, I’m sure Pearman is all over it.
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He might be best we can afford
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Take a look at the top ten right now. You’ve got Miami with an enormous NIL war chest and then the SEC and Big Ten, only. That’s the new normal. Simply put, Clemson doesn’t have the money to buy a high-level portal QB. CV is likely the best we can afford which is why he’s also the only other QB on the roster we actually recruited against P4 programs for.
I hate it as much as anyone, but this new world order means Clemson can’t go to the portal like [insert SEC team here] and grab a guy. The whole recruiting pitch of Christian values, graduation, and a culture of nice guys and family values doesn’t work anymore. It’s a player auction and we don’t have the money unless Dabo returns some of his $11M/year.
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Re: He might be best we can afford
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I don’t know what it is, this condition of self-delusion that fools so many Clemson fans into believing that we can compete monetarily for elite (proven top-end college QBs) via the NIL / portal route vs the numerous other far wealthier schools.
It goes on and on and in. Some people you just can’t reach.
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The problem is that the only way our offense can be effective against
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Oct 6, 2025, 6:27 AM
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I don't get it either!! It's like they got PTSD!!
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Re: He might be best we can afford
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Clemson has plenty of money. When Dabo identified a lack of competitiveness with our facilities as a barrier to signing elite recruits, we found the money and developed some of the best facilities in the country, paving our way to two Nattys.
Now, the funding need is for payroll rather than facilities. Dabo has to set the plan and Neff needs to go get the funding. If not, we quickly will become a middle of the pack ACC member.
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Re: He might be best we can afford
Oct 6, 2025, 6:30 AM
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^^^Exactly this^^^ You and I see eye to eye , more than I thought!!
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Please… for the love of all things… start spreading this BS lie bc that’s exactly what it is… BS.
You’re telling me Duke could go pay the kid from Tulane 8 mill and we can’t? NC State went and got Grayson McCall from Coastal last year… you think that was cheap?
GT went and got former 5 star QB recruit Haynes King… you think that was cheap? Virginia just brought in Chandler Morris and look at them now… winning like they haven’t in years.
Please stop these bs lies acting like we’re poor little broke Clemson bc we aren’t. We have PLENTY of money to compete.
How can NC State/GT/Virginia/Duke go get legit starting QBs but we can’t? You’re telling me they all have more money than us?
Absolutely friggin not and I’m so sick of seeing people perpetuate this lame excuse bc it’s not true.
When we needed top notch facility upgrades to compete.. Dabo sure found the money didn’t he?
You think we were pulling in guys like Sammy Watkins/Stephone Anthony/DW4/TLaw for free? Lol if you really believe all those guys came to Clemson just bc they fell in love with it… you’re a naive moron.
We have more than enough to compete. We don’t need to go head to head with Oregon/Texas/A&M and schools like that for every position.
Identify the premium positions which for us under Dabo have been…
QB
WR
DL
CB
And go spend the money to get those positions. Then go bargain shopping in the portal for scheme fits… guys that play with a 100% motor… etc and fill in the depth. Then add your recruiting class with 4/5 day 1 contributors and bam… you’re locked and loaded.
Dabo has brainwashed some of yall to the point where you make up these bs lies and claims just bc you don’t want to use the portal either and it’s ridiculous. Do you want to win or do you want to return and stay in the Tommy Bowden days?
If you want to win and win big… this is a must in today’s college football.
And you’re d@mn right I want him to tamper bc literally every other school in America is doing it and nobody is there to police or stop it so is it really rule breaking? Or is it an understood necessary evil?
It’s the latter.
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Re: He might be best we can afford
Oct 6, 2025, 6:33 AM
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I want to win!!
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Oct 6, 2025, 9:11 AM
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Please… for the love of all things… start spreading this BS lie bc that’s exactly what it is… BS.
You’re telling me Duke could go pay the kid from Tulane 8 mill and we can’t? NC State went and got Grayson McCall from Coastal last year… you think that was cheap?
GT went and got former 5 star QB recruit Haynes King… you think that was cheap? Virginia just brought in Chandler Morris and look at them now… winning like they haven’t in years.
Please stop these bs lies acting like we’re poor little broke Clemson bc we aren’t. We have PLENTY of money to compete.
How can NC State/GT/Virginia/Duke go get legit starting QBs but we can’t? You’re telling me they all have more money than us?
Absolutely friggin not and I’m so sick of seeing people perpetuate this lame excuse bc it’s not true.
When we needed top notch facility upgrades to compete.. Dabo sure found the money didn’t he?
You think we were pulling in guys like Sammy Watkins/Stephone Anthony/DW4/TLaw for free? Lol if you really believe all those guys came to Clemson just bc they fell in love with it… you’re a naive moron.
We have more than enough to compete. We don’t need to go head to head with Oregon/Texas/A&M and schools like that for every position.
Identify the premium positions which for us under Dabo have been…
QB
WR
DL
CB
And go spend the money to get those positions. Then go bargain shopping in the portal for scheme fits… guys that play with a 100% motor… etc and fill in the depth. Then add your recruiting class with 4/5 day 1 contributors and bam… you’re locked and loaded.
Dabo has brainwashed some of yall to the point where you make up these bs lies and claims just bc you don’t want to use the portal either and it’s ridiculous. Do you want to win or do you want to return and stay in the Tommy Bowden days?
If you want to win and win big… this is a must in today’s college football.
And you’re d@mn right I want him to tamper bc literally every other school in America is doing it and nobody is there to police or stop it so is it really rule breaking? Or is it an understood necessary evil?
It’s the latter.
Voted up. Great post. Amazing how so many fans are willing to just accept mediocrity after experiencing how we were so dominant 2015-2019.
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Clemson has the money HC wont use it
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 12:38 PM
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I’m not sure what Vizz could or could not do with the amount of snaps he has had under center so far. Not sure how something like this even gets brought up. Let’s see the guy manage a game before we rule him out.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 12:57 PM
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Let’s be honest, his issue is throwing velocity. It just isn’t P4 D1 caliber and after the time he’s already been at Clemson that isn’t going to improve. We saw the same against AppSt last September in his other extended playing time. If he’s the starter next year there will need to be a new scheme to better fit the velo, otherwise he will throw way too many pics if he’s throwing late into tight windows. What I’ve seen is not sonething that changes with more playing time. Rather, counter measures are needed to help him be functional. History under Dabo tells us it would be a rough adjustment period. We need a portal solution until Reynolds is ready. Tait has a cannon for an arm and massive legs to survive in the zone read, but he’s a project too given the limited time he’s played football. We need a legit QB coach. Develop under Riley hasn’t been stellar.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 5:44 AM
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I keep hearing Reynolds if he is a project why mention him.I thought he was a high baseball type?
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 6:36 AM
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Forget Reynolds, he was injured first game , he's out all senior season... He will probably stay strictly baseball...
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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I’ve see all spring games and Pearman was the best QB last year and Denson was the best this year. Cade did not seem as smooth or decisive as either.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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We are in big trouble if they do. We have got to go get one in the portal this year. We need to open the wallet.
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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This staff has proven they are clueless so there you go
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 5, 2025, 2:37 PM
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I’m not sure if the entire coaching staff believes that to be the case, but Dabo sure does. That is why he’s the current QB2.
Haven’t seen a lot of positives from him, but it’s hard for him to improve when he hasn’t had much PT. No way we were going to keep rolling in DW or TL type guys.
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Orange Blooded [2179]
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Re: in all seriousness, be better off getting the kid at WCU..
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Oct 5, 2025, 3:19 PM
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He was Florida 6A player of the year, preseason SoCon 1st team and in line for , FCS POY.... He'd be hungry to prove himself and more than talented... At 5-11, he probably was considered too small in HS and maybe a touch slow as a DB.. not sure.
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Asst Coach [859]
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
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Oct 5, 2025, 7:26 PM
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There is NO WAY he should be handed the starting job. But here's how it will play out: There will be a competition with him and the young guys and they will say he's our best.
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Starter [273]
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 7:07 AM
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Cant be and its the same all over the country. The QB who developes and waits their turn is an extreme minority now. The game has changed. Schools have to constantly search film for a guy somewhere who is running the same stuff and showing skills in the schemes and packages they want to run and then offer him away. Used to be called tampering but its standard procedure now.
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Team Captain [457]
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 6, 2025, 12:56 PM
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Probably not, better hope Denson works out or it's gonna get real ugly.
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Freshman [7]
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Re: Does the coaching staff really believe Vizz is the next QB1?
Oct 8, 2025, 9:02 AM
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I don't care if we get a good transfer or a good true freshman as long as we get someone.
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