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TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Dynasty Maker [3558]
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 7:07 AM
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Great article Hood!
I agree with nearly every word you wrote except this part:
“ And they might not play anyone with Louisville’s offensive talent for the rest of the year.”
VT RB is the best we will see all year, including Louisville and what USCjr calls a QB.
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
Nov 5, 2024, 10:00 AM
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But VT with. Banged up qb won’t be able to throw the ball I feel. It’s easy to stop the run when the other team has no passing attack.
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 7:11 AM
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I'm definitely not putting my money on Clemson the rest of the year, so far, they've completed at a high level playing 5 High School Teams, but when faced with a good team, Ga, Ky, they've folded like a wilted piece of lettuce!!
So, get ready for more disappointing losses this year!! You've got 3 good teams coming after you!!
Dabo will need to make some serious future changes to compete at the CFP level. Otherwise you'll just be a mediocre Team left in the ACC dust.
Such an embarrassing loss with the Cards!!
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 7:43 AM
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Kentucky???
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 8:00 AM
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I understand the narratives from doomsday fans was going to arrive after Saturday, it puzzles me why some people are always lavishing in the worst possible scenarios. The truth is though Clemson as bad as it seems, had a couple of things happen that skewed the results and as hard as it may be to believe it was not something that Clemson has had happened on offense at all this year: Dropped passes! They were abundant and they were critical. The game reminded me of the TOs last year against Duke. There were 5/6 drives killed due to this and with 2 drops in the end zone that took 14 points off the board Sat definitely hard to win. Sadly if the ball had been squeezed as normal Clemson would have won this game and the doomsday fans would only be pushing a narrative of what if!
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
Nov 5, 2024, 9:57 AM
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Agree that there were some dropped passes, but Kade was also off on his release of the ball. Antonio Williams had a touchdown in the end zone and Cade threw the ball behind him. The whole team was just off. Who knows the reason but it was obvious from the beginning of the game. Dabo said it was his responsibility not wanting to call out any of this coaches or players, but I can guarantee he has called out those coaches in private. They did not have the team ready to go Saturday night. Plain and simple.
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
Nov 5, 2024, 12:43 PM
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Come on, give the doomsday BS a rest!!! This is a team for the past 3 years that has made us feel good for a few games then everybody gets lazy and saying they fixed it, then it all blows up and embarrasses Tiger nation with a shameful performance!!! With all the money that hard working Tiger fans has spent on this team the past 10 years, we expect and deserve better than we've got for sure the past 3 years...
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Thats nice and all But the bottom line is
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Nov 5, 2024, 8:03 AM
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It’s yet another season of disappointment where none of Clemson fan’s or Dabo Sweeney’s stated goals will be met.
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Orange Beast [6492]
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That's the Dabo! we need in that screenshot
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Nov 5, 2024, 8:22 AM
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the one that fired Rob Spence
the one that fired Billy Napier
the one that fired Kevin Steele
the one that fired Kelly Bryant
the one that fired people who just weren't the best because being BEST IS THE STANDARD
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Orange Beast [6492]
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please fire your yay sayers Dabo! they are sheep. you need alpha leaders
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Nov 5, 2024, 8:22 AM
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that challenge you to be the very best
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 8:37 AM
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Football has changed and people need to accept the norm is the new norm not the old one. There are 5 ranked teams that are undefeated and they include Indiana, BYU and Army, who would thought that in the past? The Top 25 includes Boise, SMU and Vandy but Michigan, Washington and USC are no where to be seen. The game of football is the same great game it always has been but the old means nothing and the new changes every day. Deal with it.
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LOL, lot of words saying nothing. Typical.***
Nov 5, 2024, 9:01 AM
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Not sure about this Hood...
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Nov 5, 2024, 9:40 AM
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"Defensive talent and depth...are not good in a lot of spots." and then "... this Clemson team is more talented than anyone they play." Seems totally contradictory.
We may have more blue chippers per some arbitrary list of HS rankings, but the results on the field do not justify that we have more talent than anyone we play - especially on defense. One could argue that all three P4 teams left have just as much talent as we do after two offensive sputtering against the two best teams on schedule and defensive struggles all year.
Otherwise, this is an indictment of almost all the position coaches.
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Re: Not sure about this Hood...
Nov 5, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Our DC has no fire in his gut, and his defense plays without fire in their gut. When BV was our DC, usually a loss that we didn't have many of, was bc of big mistakes on the offensive side of the ball...
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I think for me, it is the disturbing trend that has developed.
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Nov 5, 2024, 9:52 AM
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It seems as though Dabo, nor the Clemson coaching staff are being proactive in stopping these events from occurring. It seems that coaches are only willing to do anything until after a bad loss or debacle. It is almost like the coaching staff does not know what is going on with each other or the players, or are experimenting.
It just gets on my nerves that it takes a "bad" loss for anything to change instead of coaches sticking to a process of perpetual self scouting and trying to be proactive on issues before they become a severe problem. I mean many of our problems are common freaking sense issues, like go out and get the best coach for the job and do not promote folks that have no business coaching yet.
It would have been one thing if Clemson had shown up and played competitively with Louisville, but Louisville beat Clemson decisively and Clemson seemed to roll over and let it happen.....IDK but when a coach comes out and says, the team was not prepared, that lays at the foot of all the coaches more than the players.
I also find it disturbing that these types of losses are happening more frequently than they have in the past. Dabo coached Clemson teams may have performed poorly in the past, (Pitt in 2016, Syracuse in 2017) but they always played with solid effort and that is something I don't see now, especially on defense. Clemson's D, used to play with high intensity and an edge to them, they don't any more and we have become soft. I would say the same for our offense, but really Clemson has never had a killer instinct on Offense, save having it in one or two key players on that side of the ball.
All I know is the team has been broken in one way or another for a few years now, and I do not have faith Dabo can fix all of the problems.
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Re: I think for me, it is the disturbing trend that has developed.
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Nov 5, 2024, 10:04 AM
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Sorry but I for one believe Dabo will fix the problem. He always has. Dabo Is as he says, “A CLEMSON MAN.” Believe it.
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Re: I think for me, it is the disturbing trend that has developed.
Nov 5, 2024, 11:20 AM
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While I agree with you, I don't like the fact that he is closing himself off. It's like he wants his own reality and cannot face that the game is passing him by... Saban saw it and got out in time. College football is more than cute sayings and motivational speeches. It doesn't seem right to say best is the standard then gaslight fans when that ask if that effort was your best. How many times will we hear Coach say "Mia Culpa" before he's actually held accountable? Does the coaching staff not realize most of the players on those championship teams are in the elementary school car line this week? If Coach wants a mantra, maybe it should be to treat every day like day one?
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Okay, you can believe what you want....
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Nov 5, 2024, 1:09 PM
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....I don't put my full faith and trust in a guy that had a hand in creating most of the problems he faces and only changes at a snails pace, in a purely reactionary fashion, instead of being proactive.
This is off of what I have seen within the last 4 years or so. He has promoted people into positions they had no business being in, and when they are not performing well, he keeps them there too long.
Look at how he built the program back when he first got Clemson Rolling. He brought in experienced coordinators, Morris (OC at Tulsa for a few years prior), Steele (huge amount of experience and co-DC at Alabama), Venables (Okla. DC forever), Brooks (a journeyman DL coach with several programs), Caldwell (a journeyman OL coach with several programs), Hobby (DL coach and DC, that coached in the NFL and other college programs), Reed (coached several years at NCST).
Now instead of going out and getting the best available, he is promoting from within and rewarding guys that are loyal to him and believe in his process but have very little to no position or coordinating experience whatsoever. Goodwin, Grisham, Austin, Spiller, Conn, Richardson are all examples of this.
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Re: I think for me, it is the disturbing trend that has developed.
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Nov 5, 2024, 12:52 PM
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I do agree with most all you've said, it's on the coaches, and it's very hard for coaches without much experience to teach elite players anything new!!!
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 10:10 AM
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Great article as usual. Glad to see you state changes need to occur. But 2 statements you made simply aren't correct.
nc state is still dead. Not as bad as fsu but they've beaten 3 fcs teams, eeked out a 1 pt W over a very very bad cal team.
2nd- I wouldn't classify Va Tech as a good team. They're an average team with a couple good players. Drones is serviceable and they do have a great running back... although, in both cases, as is the case with us, the numbers are skewed by lousy competition.
If either team (us or va tech) were in the sec, we would be in Oklahoma, Auburn, Arkansas range. I'd suspect we'd be a 500 team and va tech be a 3-6 Auburn team. That's to me the reality of how far we've fallen. A W over va tech, Pitt, or uscjr only serves to boast Dabo's "we're close " theory.
Lastly, talent ratings wise we're on paper the 5th most talented players. Playing our fcs schedule, that tells me there's a lot of coaches out there, including Beamer that's doing better with a whole lot less. Imo that's MAJOR problems.
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Boom, This^^^^
Nov 5, 2024, 1:13 PM
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Said it so good, I have to quote it....
"Lastly, talent ratings wise we're on paper the 5th most talented players. Playing our fcs schedule, that tells me there's a lot of coaches out there, including Beamer that's doing better with a whole lot less. Imo that's MAJOR problems."
Pains me to say it, but...this is a correct statement right now...
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 11:07 AM
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We had a couple of rough losses in 2011 that were remedied against VT twice that year. Here's to hoping history repeats itself LETS GO TIGERS
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
Nov 5, 2024, 11:08 AM
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Great article.
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DHood nails it again!!
Nov 5, 2024, 11:19 AM
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awesome article
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Re: TNET: Where do we go from here? To Blacksburg, of course
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Nov 5, 2024, 11:22 AM
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Good points made here. My big picture question is the lack of any drive and fire - until AFTER we get our butts kicked one or more times and this is recurring theme. How can you show no fire and interest on defense (Wes may know the X's and 0's but he has shown any emotion or ability to motivate), how can we PLOD through the offense like you are ahead when the clock is ticking down, why even after the game do we not understand that 12 and 13 points are THE SAME, and show no regret for not doing the math (TWICE) and going for 2 points to give some hope and improve odds for success?
These players work their tails off 365 days a year and only have TWELVE days that really matter so how can you just "punt" on even one of those every year?
Show me some desire and fire from the team and coaches and I can take the losses when they come.
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Nov 5, 2024, 12:36 PM
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"NCST written off, now 5-4". w00f. This is what our program has become
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Nov 5, 2024, 2:57 PM
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Well after last Saturday’s embarrassing performance..the rest of the season are just ball games our fate has been cast …would be nice to beat the coots ..just saying good luck tigers were going to need it
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Great post David!!!!!***
Nov 5, 2024, 3:11 PM
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