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TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Paw Master [16929]
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Almost all of the top transfer targets already know where theyre going BEFORE
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:40 AM
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they even enter the portal. If you wait until it’s officially allowed, you won’t get any players. We don’t have a chance to get back to being a natty contender without a serious regulatory overhaul in rules enforcement. We’re not playing the same game as other top teams.
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Re: Almost all of the top transfer targets already know where theyre going BEFORE
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:43 AM
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lol
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Paw Master [16929]
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Supposed to be all caps***
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:47 AM
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Re: Supposed to be all caps***
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Nov 19, 2025, 5:25 PM
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Many of the other teams are cheating, and everyone knows it, but he NCAA does nothing.
Dabo will get our ship back on course, and not cheat! He MUST make some coaching changes (OC).....
Cheating and still losing is really stupid. That's what most schools are doing? I'll never know why Georgia is so successful with recruiting and has been for years.... Now we know all the SEC teams have more money to spend on recruits, and they cull the bad players they pick up so many.
Much different than Clemson. Dabo will get it figured out; he hates losing more than we do!
Go Tigers, Win Out!!
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Re: Almost all of the top transfer targets already know where theyre going BEFORE
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We will all be split on this but I don’t want a coach that is unethical. If we go that route we will get an Urban Meyer or Jimbo Fisher which would leave our program farther back then it started when all is over
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Do you respect Brent Venables?
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:46 AM
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OU had the 12th ranked portal class last year including a top QB. There’s no way they did that without playing the same games everyone else in their league is playing
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Re: Do you respect Brent Venables?
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:49 AM
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So you use your assumption filled original statement to then support your assumption filled second statment.
I guess some really do live in a tightly sealed echo chamber
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Paw Master [16929]
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Listen to something other than WCCP for 5 minutes
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Nov 19, 2025, 12:01 PM
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Just yesterday on the Dusty and Danny show on Sirius XM they spent 20 minutes talking about how shocked fans would be if they knew what was really happening. Dusty Dvoracek is a former all American and sideline reporter from Oklahoma; and I’m sure all of you know who Danny Kanell from FSU is. They spoke of people they personally know, who work for major programs, who have already selected players off of other rosters and are pursuing them. I’ve heard similar conversations on other national shows. We are the outlier; everyone else is already tampering
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Re: Listen to something other than WCCP for 5 minutes
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Nov 19, 2025, 12:04 PM
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I stopped hoping for something thoughtful in your response after yet another assumption, which is that I listen to WCCP. I don't live in SC and dont care to listen to WCCP or any radio station over the internet.
But it sounds like you do.
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Paw Master [16929]
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Fine then tell me why you believe what you believe
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Nov 19, 2025, 12:10 PM
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I don’t pay attention to random twitter guys looking for clicks. The people I’m talking about are calling football games for national broadcasters. They meet with coaches every week to prep for games. They talk to head coaches, ADs, booster club presidents, University presidents. Dusty for example was on the call Saturday on ESPN for the TX A&M vs South Carolina game and played for Coach V when he was the OU D coordinator. So please tell me how you know that tampering ISN’T rampant.
BTW Dusty picked us to win the Natty in the pre-season; so he’s not your typical “ESECPN” Dabo hater if that’s gonna be your next comment.
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National Champion [7736]
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Re: Fine then tell me why you believe what you believe
Nov 19, 2025, 6:24 PM
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Well for one if there is anyone on TNET saying that tampering occurs, its been me. Just go back to a year ago when that ######## of a poster BlufftonOrangeMan tried to say it never existed despite me trotting out examples of it happening and being called out. Over and over again
What I am saying is that you keep making assumptions (like the above that I dont believe it occurs) that arent based on actual facts or evidence to support your theory and then used your theory to support your assumptions.
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"Almost all of the top transfer targets already know where theyre going BEFORE" - Oh really how do you KNOW (not assume, KNOW) that. Some, sure especially those with a no-contact tag. But plesase provide support for 'Almost All'
"If you wait until it’s officially allowed, you won’t get any players. " - So you can tell the future? Whats the next power ball
Those are two unfounded assumptions that are the basis for why we cant get back to the top (yes another assumption) without rules being legislated to assist poor ol Dabo
THEN to support your theory you trotted out this doozy with no real basis in fact.
"OU had the 12th ranked portal class last year including a top QB. There’s no way they did that without playing the same games everyone else in their league is playing"
How do you know why he was able to get a top 12 class? Money maybe? Brand recognition perhaps? Could be he is a badazz coach?
I agree that tampering happens like I said above but I reject your statement that its ALL tampering and if you ain't cheatin, you ain't gonna win
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Cool you continue believing what you wanna believe
Nov 19, 2025, 8:10 PM
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I’ve stated why I believe that tampering is rampant; because people who know a hale of lot more than you or I say so. You haven’t given a basis for your opinion
One last thing; as far as OU goes their two most coveted portal additions were in the portal for a whole day before they committed to OU. This includes their QB who Transferred from Washington state a scant week after Washington state’s offensive coordinator left to take the same position at Oklahoma. I know you’re gonna tell me that’s not proof of anything; again cool.
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Re: Do you respect Brent Venables?
Nov 19, 2025, 3:06 PM
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Well if Brent Cheated He cheated . I don't know if he did but if He did He is a cheater!
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Like coach V?***
Nov 19, 2025, 11:47 AM
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Ultimate Tiger [35206]
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you keep posting he is a cheater but that doesn't make it true
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:50 AM
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so maybe
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Re: you keep posting he is a cheater but that doesn't make it true
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:10 PM
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I most definitely did not say Venables was a cheater. Somonee else on the post said he was and I said well if He chested He is a cheater! I hope he did not/1
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Re: you also won't burn in H E double hocky sticks for being
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Yes, because God cares about the NCCA's rules which are merely suggestions at this point. LOL. Short story; We're not going anywhere near to back to the top anytime soon. Dabo will continue to handicap the program because Dabo's ego and feelings are more important than protecting the Clemson brand.
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I dunno what god cares about.. so I don't take
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Nov 19, 2025, 11:57 AM
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Chances.
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Re: I dunno what god cares about.. so I don't take
Nov 19, 2025, 3:13 PM
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I know exactly what God Cares about! Do you know His son and did you accept His son as your savior and ask him to forgive your sins! That's exactly what He cares about!
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No.. I never met his son.
Nov 19, 2025, 7:02 PM
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So I don't take chances.
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Re: you also won't burn in H E double hocky sticks for being
Nov 19, 2025, 3:12 PM
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Dabo has morals and ethics and a code. You are willing to cheat steal and lie to win.
Dabo is one of the two greatest college coaches of this century!
Yet you think Dabo is holding the team back. Wow!
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Re: you also won't burn in H E double hocky sticks for being
Nov 19, 2025, 3:26 PM
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Incredible to be this level of stupid
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Dabo thoughts arent going to change,
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he’s as stubborn as it gets. So anyone who thinks we’re going to be miraculously better next year is in for a rude awakening. We’re staring down the barrel of a 6th straight mediocre season, and a few coaching changes aren’t going to make a difference (especially when we all know he won’t make all the necessary coaching adjustments) if he’s completely unwilling to address the roster issues and problems!
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Re: Dabo thoughts arent going to change,
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Maybe Dabo is working to lower Ipay/ticket prices before he leaves. Who knows, a few more seasons like this one and people will start bringing their kids to the game again.
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Re: Dabo thoughts arent going to change,
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Mediocre?
2024 11-3 ACC Champs
2023 10-4
2022 11-3 ACC Champs
2021 10-3
2020 10-2 ACC Champs
you people!
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we win a trash acc. neat. now we cant even do that much***
Nov 19, 2025, 3:48 PM
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Re: we win a trash acc. neat. now we cant even do that much***
Nov 19, 2025, 5:50 PM
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You and your trash ACC so tired and so old.
What are you 12 13
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Re: Dabo thoughts arent going to change,
Nov 19, 2025, 3:22 PM
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Last 5 seasons have been mediocre because he didn’t win a national championship?
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Re: Dabo thoughts arent going to change,
Nov 19, 2025, 5:50 PM
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So every team that does not win the Natty is mediocre?
SMH no help for you!
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Dabosaur....
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going extinct because he can't adapt.
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Re: Dabosaur....
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we will be no better in 2026 as this year Dabo wants to do it his way only and his way is not working any more so buckle up people it's going to be a long ride
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Save you money, gentlemen
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It’s over.
It’s all over.
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Re: Save you money, gentlemen
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Well then get tf out
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This is not inspiring any confidence for the future
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Not really surprising, but I had hoped with the disastrous season we were having that maybe he’d be willing to make some major changes. It’s also possible he still does and all this is just his usual jargon. Player retention doesn’t mean much when your players don’t produce. Our season, as well as Penn State’s, should be a testament to that. We will see what happens.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Nov 19, 2025, 12:24 PM
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Hard to take a sport too seriously that allows rampant tampering. Especially when that sport is supposed to be college.
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Now that the big monster that WAS hiding under the bed is exposed.....
Nov 19, 2025, 12:26 PM
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.....that we are now PAYING college athletes to play COLLEGE football, does the "timing of contact" really help to level the playing field? We all knew that certain teams were paying players, some worse than others. These rules concerning "tampering" are just plain dumb. It only hurts the honest rule following coaches, while the teams that never had any ethics to begin with will send out their former "bagmen" to negotiate the perfect safety net for these transferring players. These players just want assurances before entering, just as they wanted fair pay for NIL. It is now a different game. It is free agency-semi pro football with no salary caps. Remove stupid rules that punish rule followers and players that want those assurances. The concept that these rules somehow level any playing field is laughable.
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Re: Now that the big monster that WAS hiding under the bed is exposed.....
Nov 19, 2025, 12:51 PM
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. These players just want assurances before entering
They are not entitled to receive such assurance, nor should they be.
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Re: Now that the big monster that WAS hiding under the bed is exposed.....
Nov 19, 2025, 1:01 PM
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the good ones are getting it anyway......was my point.... whether they are entitled to it or not. It wasn't that long ago that they weren't legally getting paid. Those 'rules' obviously changed. The tampering rules 'level' nothing.
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Re: Now that the big monster that WAS hiding under the bed is exposed.....
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No one is getting fair pay for NIL.
That would mean Sells of shirts pictures whatever and commercials.
Or pay from the games that use their NIL.
This is straight professional pay them.
It can’t last !!!
And if they want assurance than sign a contract!! Can’t have it both ways , at least not for long.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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And people here really thought Dabo was going to change his ways lol.
Clemson will fire him when it’s all said and done. They will dress it up as a mutual type of thing but Clemson is going to have to move on within the next year or 2 bc we’re heading to the bottom.
Blah blah blah save it pumpers. He will not be the HC at Clemson within the next 3 years.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Not that I want that to happen, but if he continues his approach, he will coach himself out of a lifetime position. I've seen similar situations before where people think the coach is untouchable. They are not paying him to only win 6 games
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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If you're going to tamper, would you really tell anybody?
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Nov 19, 2025, 1:08 PM
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Let me see…
If I am an employee, am I going to quit my current job before finding a new one?
Ummm, no thanks.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
Nov 19, 2025, 3:25 PM
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Let me see…
If I am an employee, am I going to quit my current job before finding a new one?
Ummm, no thanks.
You would if they gave you $60M to do it....
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
Nov 19, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Ha, so true!
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The Dabo cult is going to eat this up.
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Just as was intended.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Not sure Dabo gets for some reason... you make your bed you have to lay in it and he has been in it for the last 5 seasons plus...his way is not working and, we are regressing instead of progressing...2018-2019 is far in the rear view mirror. Its about what have you done for me lately not 7 years ago.The powers that be at Clemson are not going to continue to let less money coming into iptay, ticket sales, beer, merchandise sales etc. etc. etc. continue to drop. If he don't change his tune on using the portal and improving the team like so many other programs are doing, not sure he will make it to 2026. Just go ask Mike Gundy who had a similar view of the portal as Dabo does, what is he doing now??
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We have to lay in that bed too. I dont believe
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his views are in line with the majority of Clemson supporters any longer at this point. He’s restating his intention not to adapt to today’s CFB game. IMO, he needs to move on before this gets ugly. I’m not sure how he can take an honest look at this season, this roster and think his outdated way is working. This season should have removed the remainder of any doubt that has been growing for the last few years. Other coaches giving $ back for not meeting expectations, doing what is needed. The contract is not for past accomplishments, it’s for now and the years ahead. We’ll see if he even guts the staff like needed. I’m not even hopeful of that after this bit of heel digging.
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Re: We have to lay in that bed too. I dont believe***
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Tampering = poaching in my part of the world. Not illegal, and all companies do it. Now, this is entertainment, and we want a level playing field..,so put some rules in place and add salary caps or something.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
Nov 19, 2025, 1:54 PM
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Plenty of teams out there tampering and living and dying by the portal, and still losing (i.e. FSU). So, is the portal really the end all/be all that people seem to think it is????
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
Nov 19, 2025, 2:25 PM
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options are “up and down” or “staying down”
….gonna be to tough to climb a mountain for a season without diabolical portal efforts
especially for a school like Clemson
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Tamper, Please tamper!***
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
Nov 19, 2025, 2:28 PM
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It still doesn't sound like he understands how to take advantage of the portal. What the good teams have learned is that you can have the best of both worlds with HS recruiting and Portal recruiting. There are so many kids that enter the portal and only a small percentage will fit the needs of Clemson. Just like high schools, I would have to assume that they have scouts assigned to portal recruiting who have a report on players on every D1 roster, and monitoring D1-capable kids from the lower levels.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
Nov 19, 2025, 2:53 PM
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the good ones get the offer before they enter the portal
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:16 PM
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WHAT? The most stubborn and backwards coach in college football isn’t willing to make big changes and is instead fine with trying to win 8-9 games while making millions? Who could’ve figured that out?
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This isn't an issue of morality
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:24 PM
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Proclaiming that you won't tamper doesn't make you morally superior to rest of the power 4 CFB programs. Start scouting the potential portal entries, tell Kendall Thompson to organize the NIL money, and bring in the freaking talent!
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Eh, tampering is cheating though. IMO that makes it an issue of morality.***
Nov 19, 2025, 4:55 PM
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Dabo is once again creating an us-versus-them scenario.
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:47 PM
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First of all, all of the good players in the portal aren’t tampered with. Suggesting that they are is no better than the assertion that all portal players lack loyalty or are attitude problems.
These assumptions are dangerous. It’s even worse when they are used to defend our lack of portal usage while other schools improve and we falter.
But again, the Dabo cult eats this up. They conclude that the really successful teams cheat and that our only options are to cheat and win or do things the right way and lose.
This way of thinking will continue to kill our once proud program.
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Re: Dabo is once again creating an us-versus-them scenario.
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:51 PM
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I don’t know how anyone cannot understand this. It’s the portal “boogie man” sickness that affects our fanbase alone. Other fanbase don’t think this way
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Re: Dabo is once again creating an us-versus-them scenario.
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Nov 19, 2025, 4:27 PM
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Define good? I have a friend whose kid started in the ACC and transferred to a G5 school. He said there is a ton of tampering going on even for that level of talent.
Plenty of our players admit to being tampered with. Pretty sure Williams turned down Ole Miss more than once.
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Re: Dabo is once again creating an us-versus-them scenario.
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Nov 19, 2025, 4:51 PM
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Well, that answers the question about us going out and get what we need. We will end up with the leftovers in the portal. Retention is a good thing but I see players on this team that we don't need retention on. Looks like more of the same, especially if we don't get rid of some unqualified or underproducing coaches.
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Re: Dabo is once again creating an us-versus-them scenario.
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Nov 19, 2025, 5:53 PM
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2000 that comment concerned me more than the "we ain't cheating ".. I mean what else was he supposed to say. But the retention vs the hs freshman answer is concerning. Our recruiting is going down because of that stance. So the cycle repeats: you get less talent up front to develop, then the next cycle, you retain that player, and then less talent. Seems like a downward trend of talent would naturally occur... which is what's occurring now.
As far as tampering, I can't buy the argument that all these other coaches are tampering. If you really break it down, it's no different than high school recruiting. I'd love to know what happened with the kid that decommited from northwestern and within days commits to us. I think it'd have to be a fair assumption to say he knew before he decommited that we were interested in him.
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Re: Dabo is once again creating an us-versus-them scenario.
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Nov 20, 2025, 9:13 AM
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Agree with you 100%. People are bent out of shape about portal use. The bigger issue is not being competitive in funding high school recruiting. We won’t (and don’t) have the talent we did in the past. If he doesn’t want to overpay for high school recruits, then where is he going to get the talent from? I don’t think Dabo is an idiot. He should know the market sets the price of these recruits. You pay or you end up with less talented fallback options. It’s either pay high school recruits or pay portal players who you also don’t necessarily know much about. You gotta pick one or become a second/third tier program.
Does he think they are just going to take less money and come here because we have a great school and build men? Sorry Coach, that will be a very small percentage. Let’s try that with Dabo. Hey Coach, we are going to cut your pay to 2 mil a year. Clemson is such a great school and place to live. No need to look at what the market pays for a coach who has won two national titles. We think the intangibles will compensate you plenty.
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Re: TNET: Swinney breaks down transfer portal thoughts, says he refuses to tamper
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Nov 19, 2025, 7:01 PM
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Much Good In Your Philosophy...Regarding
Commitment To Your Players...And Really Good Last (3) Years Clemson Has Led In Graduation & Retention👏 BUT The Game
For Which All Of U...Coaches & Players R Paid
What's THE Same (3) Years Record For Football Games Played🤔🤔🤔
3...4...5... Losses🌞 I Am A Clemson Engineer
And Understand Statistics... (3) Data Pts = TREND....U Sir R Trending Down (3) Years In A Row...It's Not Obvious How This TREND Gets
REVERSED🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞
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