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Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 7:33 AM
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I have heard that the coyotes were supposed to thin out the deer and small game population? I see more deer than ever before in my area in my yard at night and dead along the side of the road.
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Re: Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 8:11 AM
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Even the coyotes don't get all of the other animals. There are huge numbers of them where I hunt and there are still a lot of deer and rabbits but a lot fewer than before the coyotes came in - at one time, you might see 30 deer in one morning but not anymore. The big difference I see is that the turkey population is way down, and I used to see a lot of does with twin fawns in the Fall but now I see more with no little ones with them
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The only thing that seems to thin out the deer herds in our
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Jun 19, 2023, 8:17 AM
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area is brand new motor vehicles. My wife captured one with our brand new GMC Acadia Denali three years ago. Trying to get an auto insurance claim processed these days is beyond terrible. Not to mention, there was a month and a half wait for parts AFTER we finally were told to bring it to the body shop, which was already a month after the accident.
On the plus side, the body shop did fantastic work. You literally cannot tell it was ever in an accident. But, I am sure the Carfax report knows, when we ever go to trade it in or sell it.
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Re: The only thing that seems to thin out the deer herds in our
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Jun 19, 2023, 8:21 AM
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If you ever want someone to help thin them out, let me know. I am deadly from any sniper position!
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Lol, doubt my subdivision would like that much. I even
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Jun 19, 2023, 8:27 AM
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caught grief on here for dispatching a sick possum with a bad golf swing. (Mine, not his.)
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Re: Ron White had a great bit about what it takes to kill a deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:20 AM
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Listened to this several times before. Very funny.
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Re: Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 8:29 AM
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Read the DNR site in regards. The deer population is down 55% according to them due to coyotes. Used to be able to take as many as you wanted per season but only 2 per day on govt land. Now you have to buy tags annually and the DNR has limited the numbers culled especially in particular zones. The areas that are getting overrun with deer are areas where coyotes shy away from public such as golf courses, neighborhoods, and city limits. The coyotes are taking their toll on deer, turkey, out competing bobcats, etc.
A small group even killed and carried off my friends family pet dog, about a 25lb Feist, as they walked around a friends newly purchased property.
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Re: Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:51 AM
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Just a little FYI on Coyotes. Last year at my place in the North Georgia Mountains, one day I was walking in the yard and there was a big coyote, just lying there like he was asleep. Not a mark on his body anywhere. He had not been shot or been in a fight. Looked like he just laid down and went to sleep. I called DNR, thinking it might be rabies and I did not want to touch it. They said it was distemper that was rampaging through the area and killing a lot of wild dogs and coyotes. They told me to leave it right where it was and let the eagles and the buzzards remove it, which they did very quickly. The DNR dude said the distemper had decimated the coyote population in N.E. Georgia, so I assume the same for Upstate SC.
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IDK where you live but maybe there has been some
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Jun 19, 2023, 8:52 AM
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Development in your area. The more land we clear for Walmarts and QTs the closer the deer are pushed to where people live.
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Re: IDK where you live but maybe there has been some
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:18 AM
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I have a herd of about 18 that love to spend most of the night in my yard. My dogs ignore them. And the rabbits.
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Re: IDK where you live but maybe there has been some
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:32 AM
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I agree. I see few does with fawns now.
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Deer predation seems to rise and fall. Turkey and
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:36 AM
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quail seem to have taken the hardest hits. But quail was going down even before the coyote invasion.
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Re: Deer predation seems to rise and fall. Turkey and
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:47 AM
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Fire ants and and domestic cats are major contributing factors for all ground nesting birds decreased population. But a major factor is loss of habitat. SC used to have a lot more farm land, tobacco, cotton, corn but now that farmland has become tree farms or subdivisions. Pine trees, especially as tree farm is horrible habitat for ground birds as it provides zero food, no natural grass and open spaces, and usually have lots of fire ant mounds.
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Re: Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:43 AM
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I will be 74 years old this month. When I was a boy, through my teenage years, I hunted daily in season in the forest where we now live and I never saw a single deer, coyote or wild turkey. Now they are everywhere. The deer eat every flower we plant and my wife is about ready to shoot them all. I even saw 2 armadillos in the yard the other day as they were destroying a bed I had worked hard to plant. Back in the spring, I was on I-85 from the Lavonia, GA exit to the Anderson/Clemson exit #14, there were 21 dead deer either in the road or on my side of the road. That is only about 18 miles and I have no idea how many were on the opposite side of the highway. The coyotes need to step up their game or we will be overrun. The city folks behind me in my subdivision put out deer feeders and the deer and crows gather like flies to a carcass. They need to go back to the cities and stop treating wild animals as pets.
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Re: Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 9:52 AM
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Agree. When I was younger a deer was a rare sight. See some now most mornings going to work. Yep until the soybeans and corn get planted they graze in my yard. Turkeys are everywhere out in my area. Have seen a couple of coyotes over the years, but hear them most nights.
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Re: Coyote and deer
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Jun 19, 2023, 10:50 AM
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I have a farm on that stretch you are talking about. Been in the family well over 100 years. Few deer in the 60s. Plenty of deer in the 90s and early 2000’s. Then we started seeing coyotes. They have decimated the deer herd. The turkeys have been hit hard too. We started going after the yotes consistently about 5 years ago. It has helped. The deer population has dropped significantly in SC since the invasive coyotes have appeared. Several studies at SRS determined mortality rates for fawns due to coyotes was about 75%. In fact one study about 10 years ago tracked about 30 fawns from the time they were born. Tracking collars were installed. They were all killed. Coyotes do us no favors. Bobcats are native and will take fawns. So will gators. Coyotes are also breeding with wild dogs and creating a coydog that is a killing machine. We located and eliminated one that was leaving bones all over my farm. Deer, pets, small mammals etc. Caught him trying to get in a dog kennel. 88 pounds of pure meanness. Appeared to be half pit and half coyote. Several experts confirmed.
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The Coyote's resorted to ACME products,
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Jun 19, 2023, 10:09 AM
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and have not been heard from since!!
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Re: Coyote and deer
Jun 19, 2023, 3:01 PM
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My understanding is coyote mostly target fawns in the spring. However, they do not reduce deer populations as they mostly cull fawns and deer that would not survive anyway.
Similarly coyote feast on kittens and cats, but they do not reduce the population. Cats are too prolific. Outdoor and ferrel cat's are decimating our wild birds.
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