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Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone
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Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 14, 2021, 8:27 PM

if we go one and done.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 14, 2021, 8:27 PM

Nope.

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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


Sorry Sir, but,


Mar 14, 2021, 8:29 PM

If Coach Brownell doesn't win two at least, then his time at Clemson is up. Trust me.

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Re: Sorry Sir, but,


Mar 14, 2021, 8:31 PM


If Coach Brownell doesn't win two at least, then his time at Clemson is up. Trust me.





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Bet me***


Mar 15, 2021, 12:14 AM



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You don't have anything he wants***


Mar 15, 2021, 1:55 AM



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LOL. As if you have


Mar 15, 2021, 6:18 AM

any clue whatsoever what you're talking about.

Unless you want in, then puhlease be a good boy and be quiet.

I expect you have nothing to give here but a big mouth ? Byeeee.

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A year's membership to TNET says you're wrong Ace, what you


Mar 15, 2021, 12:17 PM

got on it?

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What are we betting on?


Mar 15, 2021, 12:29 PM

And that's Mr. Ace to you, Mr. Ace.

You sure are a cocky SOB. I'll wait..

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That Brad won't be fired if we don't win 2 games in the


Mar 15, 2021, 12:33 PM

Tourney, it's YOUR bet Slick, why am I having to explain it?That was the bet YOU offered, are you too ########### to take the bet YOU offered or do I have a free year's membership waiting?

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Ok, deal.


Mar 15, 2021, 12:42 PM

But what's with the Slick and Ace nonsense?

Two wins or toast. Deal, palie.

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You better not welsh Henny Penny***


Mar 15, 2021, 1:17 PM



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No youuuuuu better not welch,


Mar 15, 2021, 3:14 PM

Mr. Ace.

Your game is WEAK

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My game suckered you into paying my subscription to


Mar 15, 2021, 9:26 PM

Tigernet for an entire year, thanks in advance Sport

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Oh come on, Mr. Ace..


Mar 16, 2021, 8:31 AM

Again, all you do is smack your gums. Does it make you feel tough, Mr. Ace? You didn't sucker me into anything, goofy. I asked you to bet me, remember?

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Hey ####, We make the Sweet 16 again, I'm good, if we lose


Mar 16, 2021, 12:53 PM

in the first 2 rounds, you pay my Tigernet sub for an entire year...It's literally Win/Win for me...Lucky for you,the mods have made it extremely easy to gift a sub, so even a moron like yourself will be able to do it in several easy steps...Win/win

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And lose-lose for Salty


Mar 16, 2021, 1:23 PM

If he "wins", we don't make the Sweet 16, our program is without a coach, and he gets payment in the form of a membership that he doesn't value enough to buy for himself.

If he loses, he still don't make the Sweet 16 but keep the coach he obviously doesn't like, and he has to pay for a membership he personally sees no value in for somebody else.

I am actually hoping that the bet is invalidated altogether by us making the sweet 16 (and keeping our coach). Y'all are both sort of betting that we won't win two games.

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I want us to win the national championship..


Mar 16, 2021, 1:35 PM

but we know that will NEVER happen under this leadership, and our history has nothing to do with it.

I don't mind losing this bet if it means we consistently can get in and win a couple.

My fear is we'll win one or two and won't do much else, ever, unless Coach Brownell reinvents himself as a basketball coach.

The old, "great guy, but.." is what I think we're talking about here.

Go Tigers.

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So why would you EVER make a bet that you don't want to win?


Mar 16, 2021, 2:07 PM

If we win the tourney, you don't win your bet. You don't lose, but you don't win.

Your whole bet is predicated on us not winning two games in the tournament. Why would any true Clemson fan make a bet like that? The only way for you to win (either of you, actually) is for CLEMSON to LOSE a first or second round game.

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No, no there's no way I lose...Either we advance past the


Mar 16, 2021, 2:49 PM

Sweet 16, which would be ####### awesome, or worst case scenario, we don't and I get a year's free Tigernet...Literally win/win for me

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We may very well lose to Rutgers..


Mar 16, 2021, 7:14 PM [ in reply to So why would you EVER make a bet that you don't want to win? ]

Let's just say, the word around the watercooler is, if we lose to Rutgers (freakin Rutgers!), then time has (OBVIOUSLY) run out.

Wouldn't you agree? So does, "the money".

If we beat Rutgers then lose to some pissant school from some pissant conference in the 2nd round, then are things reallllly improving? Along with that, did you watch us go complete fubar in the ACC tournament?

If we lose, and especially if we get embarrassed (again), then "the money" has seen enough.

Would you or would you not agree?

If we make game then it complicates things. Obviously, based on what I know, we must win two. There is no earthly reason why we shouldn't. We are in year 11 of our leadership, and we are in the best basketball conference in the country.

Do the math.

Again, I want us to win the national championship in every sport. IS THAT NOT WHY WE PLAY THE GAMES?!

It's been 11 years, Mr. Griff. Other than Gabe DeVoe getting hot one year, we have fiddled around, oh, mediocrity.

Mediocrity socks, and it doesn't matter what sport it is or what our "history" says.

Do you agree, Mr. Griff?

And meanwhile, as Bloodbeorange breaks out he TD thumb, please tell Mr. Ace #### this discussion is for the grownups.

Cool discussion. The floor is yours.

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Hmmm..


Mar 16, 2021, 1:31 PM [ in reply to Hey ####, We make the Sweet 16 again, I'm good, if we lose ]

So I see you can be quite the abrasive jackazz, huh?

Good luck, Mr. ####.. err Ace.

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just don't welsh***


Mar 16, 2021, 1:50 PM



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Aaaaagain,


Mar 16, 2021, 7:02 PM

No youuuuu don't welch, Mr. ####.

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you better start rolling pennies Slick, you're going to owe


Mar 16, 2021, 7:08 PM

me a yearly sub in less than a month

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BTW, what does "###########" mean?


Mar 15, 2021, 12:44 PM [ in reply to That Brad won't be fired if we don't win 2 games in the ]

Sincerely, your friend,
MR. Slick, or MR. Ace

Please pick one and stay with it. Thank you.

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Re: Sorry Sir, but,


Mar 14, 2021, 8:34 PM [ in reply to Sorry Sir, but, ]

You seem to have mistaken Clemson for a school that cares about basketball.

As Bill Murray famously chanted in “Meatballs,” It. Just. Doesn’t. Matter.

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Clemson does care about basketball.


Mar 15, 2021, 12:35 PM

More than they used to, but not as much as they should.

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BULL ####.


Mar 15, 2021, 12:45 PM

Stop already, would you? NO MORE EXCUSES!!!

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It's not an excuse, it's reality.***


Mar 15, 2021, 9:51 PM



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Look Judge..


Mar 16, 2021, 1:38 PM

You CONTINUALLY confuse excuses for reality..

So spare me, and the entire board of the tired and lame excuses. Please?

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Nothing screams “Clemson insider” like 84 pts and a 27% pulse.***


Mar 15, 2021, 10:55 PM [ in reply to Sorry Sir, but, ]



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Re: Sorry Sir, but,


Mar 16, 2021, 9:29 AM [ in reply to Sorry Sir, but, ]



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Correction..


Mar 14, 2021, 8:28 PM

He needs to win 2, at least.. Trust me.

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I'll take your word for it


Mar 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

Mr. 30%

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rekon we in a pickle - has to win two to stay but if he wins


Mar 14, 2021, 8:39 PM

three Duke hires him to replace K.

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You seem like a pretty cool dude, but..


Mar 15, 2021, 6:22 AM [ in reply to I'll take your word for it ]

shirley you aren't putting any weight whatsoever into this ridiculous pulse system?

Trix are for kids.. and so is this wack-ass pulse system on here.

Use some grown-up sense,, please.. Take care buddy.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 14, 2021, 8:31 PM

If Dabo wins another one this year, no one gives a shlt what Brownell is doing.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 14, 2021, 8:32 PM

True. Except JudgeKeller... He’s earned the title of resident basketball guru.

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She is no more a guru of basketball than you are a guru of


Mar 15, 2021, 6:30 AM

of nanophysics.

She is.. okay, but she doesn't know much about sports, at all.

Come on, man.

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Bullcrap..


Mar 15, 2021, 6:25 AM [ in reply to Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone ]

I want Clemson to win every gosh darn thing. And I think you do too.

We could have an outstanding basketball program. The slow and tired game we've been watching for 11 years has run its course. Me Brownell, and Mrs. Brownell, need to pisss or get off the pot. 11 freaking years man!

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He’s gone to pack his bag for the Dance***


Mar 14, 2021, 8:42 PM



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Why is Rutgers favored??


Mar 15, 2021, 6:26 AM

Seriously.. why??

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Re: Why is Rutgers favored??


Mar 15, 2021, 9:17 AM

1 - we are over-seeded
2 - we do not play well outside of Littlejohn

Preemptive comment since I know what Judge will say - yes we had nice neutral court wins early season. That was 4 months ago.

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We are seeded right where we are supposed to be.


Mar 15, 2021, 12:38 PM

It's laughable that some of you seem to think that you know better than an entire committee that has watched many different teams play basketball this season.

They have access to data that you have either ignored or don't know about.

If you truly support Clemson, you should be happy that we are a 7 seed. You should be happy that we are in the tournament. So, are you? Because you don't seem like it.

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Let's pretend I'm a Rutgers fan..


Mar 15, 2021, 12:48 PM

How many points you giving me?

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Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be.


Mar 15, 2021, 1:18 PM [ in reply to We are seeded right where we are supposed to be. ]

Am I happy? Of course, but it's not like it was dramatic. We knew we were in, so I didn't jump out of my chair when they announced our seed line.

Are you insinuating that the committee has never mis-seeded a team?

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I’ve read multiple posts here since last night


Mar 15, 2021, 10:13 PM

from a variety of posters who don’t seem to be on our team’s side.

“We’re going to lose to Rutgers.”
“We are seeded too high.”
“We’re not playing well.”

Fans of a team are supposed to be excited. They are supposed to be supportive. They are supposed to give their team the benefit of the doubt.

It doesn’t make sense to see our supposed fans disparaging our team so much, especially one that’s in this tournament for the 12th time EVER.

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Re: I’ve read multiple posts here since last night


Mar 16, 2021, 1:11 PM

FWIW, I've already placed my wager on the game at Clemson+1. I'll be up late, watching, cheering on my Tigers. Just because I'm "over it" with Brownell doesn't mean I'm not a supporter and fan.

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Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be.


Mar 15, 2021, 11:04 PM [ in reply to Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be. ]

Okay...I'll bite. Name one team seeded at an eight or worse who should take our spot on the 7-seed line. Then, show me the why...the resume picture that proves they need to be ahead of Clemson.

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Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be.


Mar 16, 2021, 9:17 AM

I'm not going through a big exercise here, but you really don't have to look far.

Clemson (7) NET 41, 3-6 Q1, 7-0 Q2, 1 loss Q3-4
Georgia Tech (9) NET 34, 3-6 Q1, 6-0 Q2, 2 losses Q3-4, Conference Champ, blowout win H2H and buzzer beater bank shot loss

We are seeded 7 spots ahead of GT in the bracket.


Clemson (7) NET 41, 3-6 Q1, 7-0 Q2, 1 loss Q3-4
LSU (8) NET 28, 5-8 Q1, 3-1 Q2, 0 losses Q3-4

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Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be.


Mar 16, 2021, 11:21 AM

This isn't the College Football Playoff. Conference tournament championships get you an automatic bid, but they don't promise to boost your resume any more than the wins you earned to get the title. Georgia Tech's conference championship consists of wins over Miami (doesn't help...can only hurt, as we learned) and Florida State (good win). And head-to-head does not matter.

If you want to look at bad losses, you're talking about a Clemson team whose only Q3 loss came on a neutral floor in a conference tournament. Alternatively, Georgia Tech's TWO Q3 losses came on their home floor to Georgia State and Mercer.

The committee has shown they will HEAVILY penalize Q3 and Q4 losses. There are exactly zero at-large teams in the field who have a Q4 loss. If you need to see the damage a Q3 loss does to your seed, compared to where the NET system places a team, just take a look at teams like Virginia (NET 12) and Colorado (NET 15). Each dropped a full seed from a net-projected spot, presumably due to terrible Q3 losses.

Wrapping up Georgia Tech, you have to look at them having six wins against the tournament field (four at home, one neutral, one away, none out of conference) versus Clemson having seven wins against the field (five at home, two neutral, three out of conference).

LSU is the team to utilize for your best argument, in my opinion. However, I still don't think you CLEARLY see a team deserving of a higher seed than Clemson. 10 wins against Q1 and Q2 for Clemson versus eight such wins for LSU makes it look closer than LSU having four wins against the field (two at home, one neutral, one away, none out of conference) to Clemson's seven (five at home, two neutral, three out of conference). Their NET is pretty strong, but we've seen over the last few years that NET has been used that the rating doesn't matter as much as the schedule.

Bottom line...Clemson got rewarded for doing things that neither LSU and Georgia Tech did, which was beating tournament teams out of conference. Clemson did that three times. LSU and Georgia Tech COMBINED for zero such wins. It also happens that two of the teams Clemson beat out of conference ON A NEUTRAL FLOOR were a 2-seed (Alabama) and a 4-seed (Purdue). Those two wins alone are better than ANY win on Georgia Tech's schedule and better than any win other than maybe a home victory against Arkansas on LSU's schedule.

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Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be.


Mar 16, 2021, 2:39 PM



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Has the overall #1 seed won every year so far?


Mar 16, 2021, 1:28 PM [ in reply to Re: We are seeded right where we are supposed to be. ]

If not, I don't think anyone would be foolish enough to insinuate that. I think he is insinuating that the committee didn't get OUR seeding THIS year wrong.

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They're probably favored because Vegas reads Tigernet


Mar 16, 2021, 1:02 PM [ in reply to Why is Rutgers favored?? ]

If not even Clemson fans have any confidence in the team they have to inflate Rutger's spread to get any action on CU.

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I don't care that Rutgers is favored


Mar 17, 2021, 1:22 PM [ in reply to Why is Rutgers favored?? ]

I do care that we qualified for the NCAA tourney. And I do hope we win a few games in the process.

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Congratulations!!!


Mar 14, 2021, 8:43 PM

You win dumbest post of the day!!!

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Re: Congratulations!!!


Mar 14, 2021, 8:58 PM

If this scenario comes true, what will that make you? The dumbest response on the board or person or..?

I suggested a scenario. If we lose, I predicted the reaction.

Guess we will see. Hope we win it all.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 14, 2021, 9:00 PM

I am not a Brownell fan. But he is not getting fired after this year no matter what happens next week.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 16, 2021, 1:09 AM

I agree that Coach is here to stay for at least another year. Firing coaches from the cash cow that is football is one thing...Basketball at CU is a complete different matter. Between Covid, Buyouts etc, one and done has back, Sweet 16 and he would get an extension.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 14, 2021, 9:04 PM



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Wooooow.


Mar 15, 2021, 6:33 AM

Grow up, ma'am.

Start by not TDing every post I make. It's embarrassing watching a grown-arse Clemson woman act like a little girl.

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Someone else is TDing you, not me.


Mar 15, 2021, 12:40 PM

In fact, a lot of people seem to be TDing your posts, based on your low pulse.

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A lot of people??


Mar 16, 2021, 8:28 AM

You mean like the handle you use to TD the snot out of me? Look, you've done so for weeks; I know it and you know it. The ONLY reason you're able to get away with it is because for whatever reason the moderators here choose to not expose weird folks such as yourself who apparently think TDing people is something engaged in by emotionally mature adults.

The same way you've used your own usernames to give yourself a gazillion points is the same way you've hidden in anonymity to knock down my pulse early and often.

Yet again I ask - please get a grip. Using multiple usernames on a sports message board all day everyday is really strange, to say the least.

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Re: A lot of people??


Mar 16, 2021, 12:12 PM

I appreciate your enthusiasm for Clemson, but you come on a Football Forum and spout off about the BB program.
Your post invited a rise from the group and you got it, congratulations.
Now go talk this sh*t in some other place where there are people who care what you think about BB.

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Mar 16, 2021, 2:41 PM [ in reply to A lot of people?? ]

nor am I the reason for your pathetically low pulse here.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 15, 2021, 12:37 PM

Lol not a chance. Making the dance is a good thing for our basketball program. As long as we make the postseason in basketball, he is safe.

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I hate to say it, but you are a babbling idiot


Mar 15, 2021, 3:54 PM

who knows nothing about basketball. BB is going nowhere. Clemson does not fire coaches that make the NCAA Tournament and average 18 wins a year.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 16, 2021, 1:53 AM

He will be back no matter what. We will have some nice talent returning.

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Re: Hate to say it, but Brownell is gone


Mar 16, 2021, 9:33 AM

I can PROMISE u that if we go one and done, Brownell will still be the head coach of Clemson basketball next season. He isnt going anywhere. Recruiting is really improving, he really knows and understands how to work the transfer portal, and he does it the right way. He would take 2 maybe 3 losing seasons and tourney misses for him to be let go. WHY ARE U EVEN POSTING THIS BEFORE WE PLAY THE 1ST GAME OF THE TOURNAMENT??!??! SUPPORT YOUR TEAM!!
GO TIGERS! BEAT RUTGERS!!

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