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would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:44 PM
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Defensive holding and possible face mask
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:46 PM
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let's just assume the ball is already in the air, what would you call that?
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Ring of Honor [22965]
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Id call it PI
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:50 PM
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Re: Id call it PI
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:51 PM
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exactly. Tired of hearing about how the refs hosed us, Terrell hosed us.
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Ring of Honor [22965]
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Agreed. It was a penalty regardless.
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:52 PM
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Ref made the correct call.
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I know what Yabba Dabo the untouchable says he sees
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Nov 2, 2025, 8:06 PM
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Dabo is hankering to be terminated as HC. At least he is kind of coming clean that he has ephed up and has no clue how to fix the bone-headed mess he created. It's similar to the wife yelling at you to go clean out the garage for the 1st time in 30 years - where do I start? Honey! It's time to move!
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Re: Id call it PI
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Nov 2, 2025, 7:36 PM
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Terrell didn’t “hose” us.
He got beat. He’s our best CB, at least for this season. (Whether he returns for SR season [unlikely] and remains as our best CB for 2025 who knows?)
My beef is with the incessant ‘blame it all in the Refs’ talk from Dabo and the Clemson PR network.
As you had pointed out in another post (I think it was you), back when we had Duke at 3rd and long -and- deep in Duke territory, and our LBs watched (or didn’t pay attention to) a Duke TE lumbering straight down the field towards them … and then kept on going (unfollowed / unnoticed by any Clemson defender) to catch a twenty five yard pass and then run for another twenty five yards. That play was almost as ruinous as the A.Terrell PI penalty one.
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: Id call it PI
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Nov 2, 2025, 7:36 PM
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The picture that you posted would not be pass interference.
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Game Changer [1621]
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Re: Id call it PI
Nov 2, 2025, 6:18 PM
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:45 PM
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Being 1 or 2 plays away from a win
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:46 PM
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Besides the ref not looking at the play? You have a DE out of position running after the play, a lb lost on the field and a WR holding onto a DB
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TigerNet HOFer [124243]
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Green grass...
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:46 PM
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what do i win?
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TigerNet HOFer [125868]
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Can you please read the bottom row for me?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:48 PM
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TigerNet HOFer [124243]
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I apprecitate the please.***
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:49 PM
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Re: Green grass...
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Nov 2, 2025, 6:17 PM
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Yes a lot of green grass between the Duke RB and our LB #17.
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Well
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:47 PM
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It could be face mask, illegal hands to the face, defensive holding, but since the ball is in the air and he is impeding the receiver and not making a play on the ball, it is PI. The dude has more PIs in his career than interceptions .
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TigerNet HOFer [125868]
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Finally, that was the play everyone has been crying about,
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:50 PM
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Someone please email this to Head Coach Dabo Swinney. He is already 10k in the hole. I would hate to see it get worse.
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Clemson Icon [24856]
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"dude has more PIs in his career than interceptions"
Nov 2, 2025, 6:27 PM
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or PBUs. $1 to gholliday
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Re: Well
Nov 2, 2025, 7:42 PM
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AT is nevertheless our best CB. There is no ‘close second.’
Hoping that Brandon Strozier and Corian Gipson learn how to play the position and learn how to tackle something tougher than a butterfly by the start of next season.
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Obvious face mask on Terrell. Everybody take off the orange
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:47 PM
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colored glasses. Promise you’ll be alright.
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Game Changer [2061]
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Re: Obvious face mask on Terrell. Everybody take off the orange
Nov 2, 2025, 7:37 PM
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That wouldn't be a face mask.
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:51 PM
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I see a Duke player, trying to hug a Clemson player at Clemson player trying to get away
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Can you see the dinosaur in this image?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:53 PM
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Re: Can you see the dinosaur in this image?
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Nov 2, 2025, 6:03 PM
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I see a Dabosaurus Rex. 
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:52 PM
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Looks to me like his hand us on receivers shoulder and and two guys are battling. No call.
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10 guys lined up over to the right with yellow vests on?***
Nov 2, 2025, 5:53 PM
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Still frames don't tell the whole story.
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Nov 2, 2025, 5:53 PM
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What happened a hlf second before that.
I've watched the replay several times. I saw a receiver seeing the pass in the air, running into the defender, pushing the defender, the defender in turn reaching out to control his balance and also stay between the receiver and the ball.
At any rate, I saw the initial contact being made by the receiver that led to a defender, who was pushed by the defender, losing his balance and making contact with the receiver.
But, that's just me.
And, that one call does not in anyway mitigate the horrible play by the Clemson Secondary the previous 59 minutes.
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you want conext?
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Nov 2, 2025, 6:04 PM
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half second before that he was holding the receiver. . .05 seconds prior, he is grabbing the facemask, .1 seconds after that he releases the facemask. .25 seconds after, the ball sails past both of them.
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Re: Still frames don't tell the whole story.
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Nov 2, 2025, 6:04 PM
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I agree with you BretFSU - the still does not give full context. I also see a defender looking back towards where the ball is thrown from and the target receiver is looking at the defender. It’s not PI yet on the defender. Possible face mask but that wasn’t the call.
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Re: Still frames don't tell the whole story.
Nov 2, 2025, 6:14 PM
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I screen grabbed that from the video, he intiated contect and impeded the receiver's progress, it is textbook PI.
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Re: Still frames don't tell the whole story.
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Nov 2, 2025, 8:01 PM
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Fascinating exercise.
I saw that both Terrell and the Duke WR were heading in the direction of a (by then, uncatchable … by virtue of the DB hand-fighting with the WR to slow down the path of both players towards the spot to where the pass was thrown) pass. Terrell was backpeddling (the net effect made Terrell more if a ‘blocker’ to impede the WR’s path to the ball) and between the WR and the airborne ball; the WR was runn8ng straight forward and by every appearance was fully focused on getting to where the ball was heading. As for Terrell, ‘going for the ball while running backward’ does not look as him having the same priority of the Duke WR running straight ahead and ‘going for the ball.’
It should not be a surprise to anyone that, in a combo race + hand-to-hand pushing match (in which a WR is running forward and the DB is running backward) that the DB ends up being the guy that got pushed down.
I’m not dismissing how others interpreted what they saw. Nor am I inferring that I know more about FB rules than anyone else. I’m just describing what I saw, and sharing my opinion that PI was a reasonable interpretation by the refs.
Heck, I wish the refs had not thrown the flag. Ashton Hampton has had great luck at committing obvious defensive holding and PI without being flagged. Too bad that AH wasn’t covering that Duke WR.
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WR and DB hand-fighting***
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Re: WR and DB hand-fighting***
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 6:19 PM
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Offensive pass interference and defensive pass interference.
Offsetting penalties.
Replay fourth down
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 6:23 PM
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A devilishly handsome debonair individual…oh wait that was your avatar!
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Nov 2, 2025, 6:26 PM
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 6:24 PM
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A ref getting a thank you text from his bookie.
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 6:29 PM
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Terrell was trying to apply some after shave balm to the receiver?
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I see as much DPI as I saw OPI in Gardner's "catch 2.."***
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Re: I see as much DPI as I saw OPI in Gardner's "catch 2.."***
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So why wasn’t the flag thrown at that spot? Flag was thrown after duke receiver took our defender down. Perfect timing to save the game for duke. Yes, Tigers shouldn’t have let them get the ball that close but that was as bad as Auburn/Ga officiating.
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
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Dabo is milking this for all it's worth as a distraction and all the sympathy he can get.
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 7:06 PM
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I see a good opportunity for the ref to keep the flag in his pocket and wave his arms incomplete. Both players had hands on each other, and you can find that on every ###*ned pass play in every ###*ned game every ###*ned where. I’ve seen a whole lot worse not called.
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Rival Killer [2646]
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You're only looking at one frame...need to look at the play
Nov 2, 2025, 7:14 PM
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And the actions of the WR before that in stance
During a legal forward pass (loose ball play), all eligible A players (by number and position) may catch the pass/loose ball in flight, untouched by B, and ALL B players are eligible to catch the pass in flight. Being both receiver (A) and defender (B) have equal rights, either player is entitled to whatever spot on the field they can get to first without contact. Pass interference restrictions for A begin with the snap and for B when the pass leaves the passers hand. From my initial review of the play, it looks like B has position and then A changes direction, engages B (DB) and is blocking B (DB) because B already had position. That sure looked like OPI to me.
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Re: You're only looking at one frame...need to look at the play
Nov 2, 2025, 7:38 PM
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I was listening to the game on the radio and the announcer said it was 100% offensive pass interference that was going to be called by the ref 😳. It was the guy that announces with Don Munson
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 7:40 PM
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I don’t dispute that it may be PI but we’ve all seen more contact go uncalled.
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 7:48 PM
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#17 and #20 look like synchronized running…
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 8:08 PM
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It's gonna be a bright (bright), bright (bright)
Sun-shiny day
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two referees looking the other direction?***
Nov 2, 2025, 8:51 PM
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 2, 2025, 9:04 PM
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I see a reciever trying to run through a DB (which he can't do) to try and get a poorly thrown ball and then tackling the DB because the DB would've been in better position. The DB is entitled to his position and the reciever can't push them. What you're seeing is offensive pass interference.
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 3, 2025, 10:50 AM
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looks like the flag throwing ref was not even looking at the play
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Re: would somebody like to tell me what they see in this photo?
Nov 3, 2025, 10:53 AM
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I saw the defender raising his hands in a reaction to being pushed by the receiver. He is already off balance and falling backwards.
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