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Orange Blooded [4018]
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Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:34 AM
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We’ve got a pattern of poor decisions and turnovers
I don’t care how physically gifted you are, poor decisions and turnovers lose games at qb
The more the pressure the worse it gets
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:35 AM
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Cade sucks
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
Oct 22, 2023, 12:38 AM
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Not the one
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:36 AM
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With a season in the crapper there’s no reason not to play 2 or even 3 quarterbacks. Let them show who deserves to play. Cade looks less like a 5 star every single play.
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:38 AM
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A decent offensive line would make Cade look a whole lot more competent
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
Oct 22, 2023, 12:42 AM
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True for any qb, but teams are stacking the box and daring Cade to beat them
The game plan is stop the run and wait for the qb to do something dumb and it’s totally working
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
Oct 22, 2023, 1:30 AM
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It's the Cole Stout plan all over again.
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
Oct 22, 2023, 1:30 AM
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Yup, and the Kelly Bryant.
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
Oct 22, 2023, 12:54 AM
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I remember watchng Paul Tyson (ex Bear Bryant Bama Legend great grandson) In high school, man he looked awesome! Give the guy a shot eh? He's in his 12th year in college now!
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Been asking for Helms for several games now.
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:36 AM
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Several on here gave me crap for even mentioning it.
Give Helms a chance.
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Re: Been asking for Helms for several games now.
Oct 22, 2023, 12:38 AM
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And they should give you crap. Trotting out someone else that has also been poorly coached is not going to help anything.
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Maybe he can overcome that? He's looked better when I have see him.***
Oct 22, 2023, 12:47 AM
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Re: Been asking for Helms for several games now.
Oct 22, 2023, 12:48 AM
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I think it’s beyond coaching
Failing to run the called play at the end of OT
Getting sacked for a safety at the end of the half
These are boneheaded mistakes that have nothing to do with coaching.
Some people just lose their wits under the gun when the pressures become too great
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Yep play Chris Vizzina
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:36 AM
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That's 2 5 stars in just a few years that have developed poorly
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:37 AM
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At some point, you can't keep blaming it on the players.
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Re: That's 2 5 stars in just a few years that have developed poorly
Oct 22, 2023, 12:49 AM
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Yeah. The chances of hitting on TL and DW back to back are probably less than having 2 duds though
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
Oct 22, 2023, 12:37 AM
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all the talent in the world still needs to be properly taught.
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:52 AM
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Fair point
But if it really needs to be said “you are on the 10, with 26 secs to play in the half- don’t take a safety”
Or, “‘make sure to run the play we call”
Then you don’t have the right stuff for that position
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:37 AM
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That’s the whole point of Defensive pressure. It’s forces the QB into bad decisions and turnovers. Our OL can’t stop or even slowdown the pressure 90% of the time and our WRs can’t block for the screen game so therein lies the problem
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Re: Can we have a civil debate about the qb position?
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:38 AM
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Helms might be the best QB on the roster. Or burn CV’s redshirt and play him. Cade doesn’t deserve to lose the starting job IMO but something’s gotta give.
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They gotta quit putting the decision in his hands late
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:40 AM
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Call a turnaround pass in those 2 plays and score there. Do we get 2 point conversion is a diff story. But the RPO is dead and should be laid to rest in Clemson
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Re: They gotta quit putting the decision in his hands late
Oct 22, 2023, 1:32 AM
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It wasn’t an RPO.
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lets see what helms can do.***
Oct 22, 2023, 12:40 AM
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Here is Civil.....
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:44 AM
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I think Cade should be further along considering he played at a very high end Texas program. His ball security is poor considering his pedigree and training.
I think Dabo should've played Cade MUCH more last year. He would be further along if that happened.
Our OL is hot garbage. No one with 8 starts is going to look good behind that unit.
Cade is on his 2nd OC in year two. I KNOW his current OC doesn't have full control of offense. Don't believe me....watch the tape when calls are being relayed.
I think Cade has a ton of talent....but his development is being restricted by average WRs as well.
Cade is the LEAST of our problems on O. OL is garbage; WR is very average; and backs are very average.
Suspect playcalling....particularly on 2nd down after a first down incomplete.
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Re: Here is Civil.....
Oct 22, 2023, 2:08 AM
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He has already started 8 games in a row and he isn't getting better so playing him more last year would have just meant more losses at a time when we were still in the playoff hunt right up until the last regular season game.
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300 yards passing with no blocking, no WR separation
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Oct 22, 2023, 12:44 AM
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and no run support. A bit of a challenge. Just saying.
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