Replies: 22
| visibility 2,046
|
110%er [5776]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4898
Joined: 6/27/03
|
History Question: Who routinely took long shots before 3 pt
Mar 29, 2014, 10:17 AM
|
|
line was created?
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [24952]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 42799
Joined: 7/31/10
|
The 'Pistol'...***
Mar 29, 2014, 10:20 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [60250]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 42571
Joined: 11/30/98
|
Pistol Pete first comes to mind
Mar 29, 2014, 10:31 AM
|
|
Rick Barry Jerry West Lloyd (aka World B.) Free
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5776]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4898
Joined: 6/27/03
|
For some reason, I'm also thinking Hal Greer and Wally Jones
Mar 29, 2014, 11:24 AM
|
|
for the 76ers.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [54005]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 43618
Joined: 11/17/03
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [35206]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 6908
Joined: 7/2/13
|
Hartins?
Mar 29, 2014, 10:38 AM
|
|
I mean, what is Hartins.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [9086]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 13827
Joined: 7/1/02
|
Wilt Chamberlain***
Mar 29, 2014, 10:44 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1335]
TigerPulse: 82%
Posts: 2572
Joined: 1/16/02
|
Re: History Question: Who routinely took long shots before 3 pt
Mar 29, 2014, 10:45 AM
|
|
Butch Z.
I wonder how many points he would have scored for Clemson if they had a 3 point line during his time.
What was he 5'8 or 5'9 and averaged it seems like over 20 points a game during his 3 varsity years.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5776]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4898
Joined: 6/27/03
|
Butch for sure --- Who else at Clemson?***
Mar 29, 2014, 11:20 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rock Defender [61]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 86
Joined: 3/16/11
|
Re: Butch for sure --- Who else at Clemson?***
Mar 29, 2014, 11:24 AM
|
|
Van Gregg. The great...Terrell Suit.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1335]
TigerPulse: 82%
Posts: 2572
Joined: 1/16/02
|
Butch Zatezalo, Clemson guard in the late 60s and early 70s
Mar 29, 2014, 10:58 AM
|
|
http://www.bcshof.org/halloffamers/zatezalo1985.htm
Basketball ? Center
Trying to analyze Butch Zatezalo’s basketball scoring achievements at Center High School and Clemson University is a monumental task. Even though he wasn’t tall, Butch combined speed, spirit, and shooting skill to rack up 3472 points in his six seasons of varsity competition, which gave him a career scoring average of 25.2 points per game. Center High School made its basketball debut in the 1963-1964 season under Coach Sarge Alberts, and Butch became the instant star of the new Trojan cage squad. He earned All Section honors as a sophomore and then whipped in 622 points his junior season, setting a Center High single season scoring record. As a senior, Butch averaged 30.6 points per game, setting a Beaver County record. He was named third team All State and MVP of the WPIAL Class B. His 27.2 points per game average was a county record as was his three year scoring total of 1711 points that was broken by Denny Wuycik. Butch continued to chalk up scoring records at Clemson, leading the Atlantic Coast Conference in 1968 with a 23 point average and in 1969 with a 25.8 point average. After his collegiate career, Butch served as a distribution manager for a textile firm in Spartansburg, South Carolina
Clemson Legend Zatezalo Passes: Clemson basketball Hall of Famer George “Butch” Zatezalo has died at his home outside of Pittsburgh. He was 57. Zatezalo, a 1970 graduate, still holds the school record with a 23.5 points per game average. He also held the school scoring record with 1,761 points, which was broken in 1990 by Elden Campbell. He was inducted into the Clemson Athletic Hall of Fame in 1988. The cause of death was not immediately known. [8/26/05]
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5776]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4898
Joined: 6/27/03
|
Had forgotten how close my Clemson enrollment in 1970
Mar 29, 2014, 11:22 AM
|
|
had come to seeing Butch play --- only missed it by one year.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [11024]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9048
Joined: 2/22/00
|
JIm Sutherland, Garry Helms and Jim Brennan
Mar 29, 2014, 11:40 AM
|
|
all of whom played in the 60s were excellent long range shooters. Sutherlands pop was a professor at C U and Helms hailed from Pelzer as did our coach Bobby Roberts. Brennan like Zatazelo was from western Pennsylvania. Press Maravich was from that region and we got a lot of players from there back in the day.
|
|
|
|
|
MVP [502]
TigerPulse: 94%
Posts: 754
Joined: 10/11/12
|
Re: History Question: Who routinely took long shots before 3 pt
Mar 29, 2014, 11:48 AM
|
|
Thanks for the great question ... it's fun to remember the way the game once was ...
The 1965-66 Tiger squad played at Wake Forest and essentially every second half shot was long ... mostly by Gary Helms or Jim Sutherland. Missed shots were gobbled up by Randy Mahaffey or Hank Chanel but with a 75% accuracy, the missed shots were few. Fascinating game.
In the ACC the best that I remember was Bob Verga at Duke. Skip Harlicka at South Carolina was amazing as was Paul Long at Wake Forest. Was Butch the best ever at Clemson ... very likely.
NCState won the NCAA title in 1983 with a lot of two-point bombs. Sydney Lowe, Derrick Whittenburg, Terry Gannon all were exceptionally accurate.
In the pro ranks of the 1970s Clyde Frazier and Jerry Lucas with the Knicks, Geoff Petrie with the Trailblazers, Jerry west with the Lakers were noteworthy long range shooters.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5776]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4898
Joined: 6/27/03
|
Thanks for the reminders --- By the way, would that have
Mar 29, 2014, 2:37 PM
|
|
been the same Gary Helms who played shortstop for Anderson's American Legion baseball team in the same time frame?
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5776]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4898
Joined: 6/27/03
|
By the way, on NC State and 1983 --- If I remember correctly
Mar 29, 2014, 2:41 PM
[ in reply to Re: History Question: Who routinely took long shots before 3 pt ] |
|
NC State exploited great coaching logic while the 3 point shot was being given a try either throughout the season or just during the ACC tournament, but had to revert back to no 3 point for the NCAAs which they mastered just fine. Am I remembering this correctly?
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [11217]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5030
Joined: 10/31/03
|
Monte Towe***
Mar 29, 2014, 12:19 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2113]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 623
Joined: 1/11/04
|
I remember Towe's favorite spot was 2 ft insidemidcourt line***
Mar 29, 2014, 11:12 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1029]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 467
Joined: 11/25/07
|
Dave Thomas
Mar 29, 2014, 8:26 PM
|
|
Tates Locke's first team would run a slow down game and then kick it out to Dave Thomas in the corner and he would nail it. Lefty Dreisell complined that Dave was out of bounds on one shot.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [50635]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 43019
Joined: 12/3/98
|
Re: Dave Brown***
Mar 29, 2014, 9:00 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3257]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7167
Joined: 7/27/99
|
Re: History Question: Who routinely took long shots before 3 pt
Mar 29, 2014, 11:21 PM
|
|
Butch Zataslo, Gary Helms, Jim Sutherland, and Jim Brennan.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17743]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14213
Joined: 10/24/10
|
Jerry West, Gail Goodrich, Pistol Pete***
Mar 29, 2014, 11:45 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6504]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10139
Joined: 11/2/03
|
Re: History Question: Who routinely took long shots before 3 pt
Mar 29, 2014, 11:54 PM
|
|
Pistol Pete Maravich. He shot and shot and shot and shot from everywhere. Very high scorer. Very poor shooting percentage.
|
|
|
|
Replies: 22
| visibility 2,046
|
|
|