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Rival Killer [2691]
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Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:46 PM
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Changes are needed in how teams are selected for the play offs.
The play offs are really going to show the harsh reality that changes will have to be made.
Hope Tigers win tomorrow!
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Paw Master [16423]
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Blowouts happened in the 4 team playoffs.***
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:47 PM
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Athletic Dir [1124]
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Re: Blowouts happened in the 4 team playoffs.***
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:49 PM
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1 team of the 4 got blown out typically. This format will only make that number grow.
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Top TigerNet [28078]
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No. I dont want a system where 9-3 SEC teams get in over 11-1
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:50 PM
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Teams from other leagues. Would make the regular season meaningless
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Rival Killer [2691]
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But, those 9-3 SEC teams are better
Dec 20, 2024, 10:52 PM
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Harsh reality.
I do understand what you are saying, but I’m just not a believer in participation trophies
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Top TigerNet [28078]
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Giving slots to 9-3 teams would be participation trophies
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:54 PM
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You get in just cause you participated in the SEC
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Rival Killer [2691]
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Yes
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:57 PM
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Just think we all want the best teams to be in it.
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: Yes
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:03 PM
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Best teams according to who? ESECPN. Go listen to Jimbo Fisher on the Hannity show from today. He nailed it.
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Commissioner [1228]
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Re: Yes
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:27 PM
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Did 9-3 bama lose to vandy?
Did 9-3 ole miss lose to Kentucky?
Both could have been blown out by ND
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: But, those 9-3 SEC teams are better
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:00 PM
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9-3 equals participation trophy. I guess you precious Bama got a participation trophy the year we mopped the floor with the greatest team of all time. Blowouts have happened even with good teams.
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Game Changer [1944]
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Re: it's not a participation trophy?
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:56 PM
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He's right.. you can't devalue a team with an 11-1 record in a major league for 9-3 teams with really bad losses. Don't be pissed at the CFP or IU bc ole miss lost to UK, Bama lost to OU.
And who is to say either ole miss or Bama fare any better?? I watched Bama get their #### beat by a 6-6 team on the road with zero offense... Pretty sure ND could do worse.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100750]
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Clemson Sports Icon [57530]
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Letterman [151]
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Re: But, those 9-3 SEC teams are better
Dec 21, 2024, 8:24 AM
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Bama lost by more to a 6-6 Oklahoma team, and lost to a team Georgia State beat. Ole Miss lost to Kentucky at home
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Legend [7082]
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Re: No. I dont want a system where 9-3 SEC teams get in over 11-1
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:44 PM
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They need to figure out a way to better balance regular season schedules. I’ve been saying Indiana is a joke all season. And Oregon’s schedule next year is basically a bye to the Big10 championship game
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Athletic Dir [1124]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:51 PM
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Just go back to 4. Tomorrow will be similar to tonight. I really don't think SMU poses any threat to PSU at home. Hopefully the Tigers take care of business. But I could definitely see them not as well.
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:02 PM
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An average MN team says hello. I think SMU wins.
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Rival Killer [2691]
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Hope you are right and SMU wins!!
Dec 20, 2024, 11:05 PM
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Afraid it gets ugly pretty quick, though.
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Game Changer [1773]
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Re: Hope you are right and SMU wins!!
Dec 21, 2024, 12:25 AM
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Why would you hope SMU wins? WE ARE!!!
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110%er [3870]
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The playoffs will be growing once all the realignment is done.
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Dec 21, 2024, 12:22 AM
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Nothing wrong with that. There will ultimately be upsets as it goes on, just like in basketball. Heck, the FCS has had “9-3” national champions in their long history of expanded playoffs, so it goes to show, like basketball, there are “Cinderellla” stories to follow. I mean look no further than our Tigers. We’ve been given a shot, thanks to expanded playoffs.
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Top TigerNet [28757]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 10:55 PM
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If we win tomorrow, any argument for changes to the way teams are selected go out the window. The only way to support your call for needed changes would be for Clemson to get blown out by Texas since Clemson is the lowest seed and supposedly the least deserving of a playoff spot. A win tomorrow would solidify the current selection process.
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Head Coach [980]
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Dec 21, 2024, 5:41 AM
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I would argue that a Clemson is one of the 4 most deserving along with Oregon, ASU, and UGA. Win your conference championship game in the power four and you should get in. All the other teams were up for debate.
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Hall of Famer [8792]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:05 PM
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Finished 2nd in B1G conf
Beat Michigan.
Beat Washington.
Beat UCLA
Beat Michigan State
All perennial good teams - not so much this year.
I'm glad this Cinderella team is in the playoff.
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Commissioner [1272]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:55 PM
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Sooo they beat bad teams with good brand names, then got blown out in the first round and made it look closer than it was in garbage time. Cinderella? More like one of her stepsisters
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Orange Blooded [2269]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:09 PM
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You’re upset because you have to face a legitimate team in Notre Dame, who you know you don’t have a shot against with your sorry ### backup Qb. Oh well, at least Kirby will have the bowl cut on point for the playoffs.
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Rival Killer [2691]
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Huh?
Dec 20, 2024, 11:13 PM
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Why are you mad?
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National Champion [7242]
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Re: Huh?
Dec 20, 2024, 11:25 PM
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Who should be in over Indiana?
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110%er [3870]
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Probably because youre in here, pimping 9-3 SEC teams who lost
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Dec 21, 2024, 12:32 AM
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to Vandy. And then subjectively (baseless) call it “harsh reality”. Your weaselly attempts at conference propaganda may be why you’re not appreciated around here, that’s my guess.
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Game Changer [1773]
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110%er [3870]
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They may very well beat ND, but 3-0 has nothing to do with it.***
Dec 21, 2024, 12:35 AM
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National Champion [7242]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 20, 2024, 11:15 PM
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Indiana definitely a top 12 team. Probably would of won the SEC.
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Solid Orange [1366]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 20, 2024, 11:32 PM
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Let’s watch Notre Dame play your dawgs first
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Rival Killer [2691]
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Id lean towards Notre Dame beating UGA
Dec 20, 2024, 11:40 PM
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Georgia is good. Certainly not elite. They have had trouble all year long. On both sides of the ball, too. Now, they have an unproven back up QB.
Notre Dame is good. I think Kirby is a great coach, but I simply do not trust Georgia. Gunner is his first QB start. I would go with Notre Dame right now
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: Id lean towards Notre Dame beating UGA
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Dec 21, 2024, 8:18 AM
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Nope Gunner is a gamer. Tough kid. Constant motor. The team around him and the depth is good enough that gunner Stockton will be just fine at quarterback the fact that he can run and throw will be an advantage versus Notre Dame compared to having Carson Beck at QB.
Puppies will beat Notre Dame and win the whole thing with gunner Stockton.
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Game Changer [1998]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 20, 2024, 11:46 PM
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Very rarely were there good games in the 4 team … the first round is supposed to be a somewhat easy win in the format for the home higher seed. It’s not supposed to be easy for those lower seeds on the road.
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Rival Killer [2849]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 12:04 AM
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Dude we’ve all seen an undefeated SEC team, considered the best team of all time going in, get beat by four touchdowns in the CFP final.
That’s college football. Poor performance by conferences like B1G tonight is no excuse to give SEC schools another try after losing during the regular season. Even if they end up seeming to be better, they had their shot. Eventually we need to see cross sectional games since they don’t happen during the season.
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
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Dec 21, 2024, 12:25 AM
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The SEC is becoming the dog that caught the car.
No doubt, the SEC is the best conference.
No doubt the SEC has the best teams.
It’s quite possible the SEC had seven teams this year that should be in the top 12.
And it’s trending further in that direction.
But if college football ends up with eight SEC teams in the playoff each year, three or four SEC teams in the final four, two SEC teams in the championship every year, fan interest nationwide will dwindle.
I’m not bothering to watch an all SEC final four. Who cares?
Ain’t nobody outside of the SEC footprint gonna bother watching that.
The result is a horrible business model.
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Game Changer [1773]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 12:33 AM
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Did you not watch when the national championship was LSU and Alabama back in the day or UGA vs Alabama? It happens. I mean for all we know we could have three SEC teams in the final four.
You’d have Texas vs Tennessee, and UGA vs. say Boise.
It’s more college football. If the tigers are eliminated i’m still watching….
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 8:21 AM
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Oh, I definitely watched national championship games in the past two SEC teams.
I’m talking about something different I’m talking about when six or seven of the final eight teams are SEC. I have no interest in watching an SEC final eight year after year. And that’s where we’re headed.
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Varsity [117]
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Dec 21, 2024, 3:32 AM
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This is what people don’t understand. If it becomes an SEC playoff, viewership will go down. Maybe not initially because this is still a hot new format but eventually folks will get tired of seeing the same teams play year after year, especially if they feel the teams getting in are unworthy due to having more losses than teams getting left out.
Think about our game versus Texas. It’s going to draw eyes from the SEC and the ACC. Bama fans, Ole Miss fans are typically more hardcore in their college football viewing so a lot of them will tune in, ACC fans who feel they have a seat at the table bc their champ got in will watch. If it was UT vs Bama then go ahead and take away a huge chunk of that second bucket, along with folks who wouldn’t be interested in a rematch from the regular season (because if you have more SEC teams in the playoffs you better like rematches bc they will happen often).
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Game Changer [1934]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 12:30 AM
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Changes are needed ……..
64 team nationwide league
League commissioner
Collective bargaining
Eight Divisions
Eight teams per division
Spread out top teams
Single elimination playoff
Revenue sharing of TV revenue
Each team gets smaller piece of the pie
The pie is 6X today
No need for booster money
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Game Changer [1886]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 4:23 AM
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Neither us Candy or Okie a top 30 team🙄
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Game Changer [1670]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 5:43 AM
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You're a buffoon
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Orange Blooded [2421]
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Dec 21, 2024, 5:59 AM
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I agree changes need to made, if you win your conference then you should be seeded no lower than 5th.
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Oculus Spirit [41259]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 7:18 AM
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You act like ND beat them by 30. 27-17 is respectable at ND for a basketball school.
I believe it was as close to right as it could be.
11-1 in the B1G needs to be in over Bama all day every day.
Reality is the SEC needs to check out and go at it on their own. They want to control all aspects of the sport including the media to keep them propped up. #### they will have 10 teams in the Top 25 to start the year. Better tv when you keep ranked teams playing each other.
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All-TigerNet [5817]
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Re: Indiana has had a good season, but not a top 30 team
Dec 21, 2024, 8:32 AM
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When SEC team loses in mid September to another SEC team and drops 1 spot due to the fact that the next week they face another SEC team and they need it to be a Top 25 matchup , it skews every single statistical fact that you make to justify 12 SEC teams in the playoff.
Again, it happened week after week during the regular season. Have to stop with the idea that records do not matter. You can’t constantly whack off to SEC strength and then complain when your 8-4 conference mate doesn’t get in.
Clemson played 2 SEC teams this year and dropped like a rock when they lost , why the difference?
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