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Everyone's gonna have access to alcohol eventually,
May 7, 2014, 8:49 AM
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So why shouldn't the schools go ahead and give it to them?
For that matter, everyone's going to die eventually, so why shouldn't teachers be allowed to shoot them?
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Oculus Spirit [97823]
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Was with you on the first point......
May 7, 2014, 8:56 AM
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....then you were like.....
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Well, what's the stopping point?***
May 7, 2014, 9:00 AM
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Contributing to the delinquency of a minor is illegal
May 7, 2014, 9:03 AM
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as is murder?
looking up pron is not.
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OK, so long as no one is doing something illegal
May 7, 2014, 9:04 AM
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With my child, I should be cool with it.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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no - i'm not ok w/ the material being 'required'
May 7, 2014, 9:05 AM
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but to make the comparisons of choosing a book to doling out booze & death isn't congruent w/ the discussion
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It twas. He was using the same logic. Bottom line is
May 7, 2014, 9:08 AM
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anyone that thinks that is ok for a 14 yr old to read (at school, mind you) is dead wrong IMO.
I can't imagine any self respecting parent that would think that's ok to read at 14. No sir, no way.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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I agree. I was commenting on the correlation to handing
May 7, 2014, 9:09 AM
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out drug as the next obvious step
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murder??
May 7, 2014, 10:14 AM
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also, at 18, my kids can also read WhateverTF they'd like to read.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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also, I said also twice.***
May 7, 2014, 10:15 AM
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CU Medallion [54758]
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i don't think that looking at #### is illegal as a minor
May 7, 2014, 10:16 AM
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i could be wrong.
commercial distribution is, of course.
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Eh, the school should still not assign that.
May 7, 2014, 8:50 AM
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It was like when I was dating that youth director. The kids in her youth group knew we were doin' it. The kids in her youth group were probably doing it more frequently than we were. That doesn't mean it was okay to be all PDA around them.
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Re: so we don't post pics in 2014?***
May 7, 2014, 8:57 AM
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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You've seen a pic of this one, but it was a long long long
May 7, 2014, 8:58 AM
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time ago. I don't have pic of the youth kids, they are all old now too.
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Theyre in high school.
May 7, 2014, 8:59 AM
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The girl has probably raw dogged a couple doods anyway. Sheltering a child throughout high school is only going to lead to more problems down the road, especially if they go away for college.
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So, nothing's off limits? ####, alcohol, marijuana, heroin?
May 7, 2014, 9:02 AM
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You don't want to shelter them. If they want to try crack, you really can't stop it, so might as well buy them some.
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Everything you named is illegal
May 7, 2014, 9:06 AM
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Reading literature that is not rated mature or that is not sold under the premise that you must be 18 is not illegal.
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OK, good lesson for kids. Do what you want, as long
May 7, 2014, 9:08 AM
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as it's legal. If you need any advice, call your lawyer or a judge, not me.
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I cant tell you how many times I needed a lawyer
May 7, 2014, 9:09 AM
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reading "50 Shades of Grey" or some of the books I read in high school
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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Hold up, why did you read a book for middle aged women in
May 7, 2014, 9:12 AM
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bad marriages, while you were in high school?
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Red read the book... shes not middle aged. Nor in a marriage***
May 7, 2014, 9:14 AM
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Re: So you're dating a 14 yr old***
May 7, 2014, 7:48 PM
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Look man, all I know is all these old ladies at work
May 7, 2014, 9:38 AM
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were talking about that book. Then some dudes on here with more trips around the sun than me said their wives were reading it.
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Girls in their 20s read what all their friends are reading
May 7, 2014, 1:46 PM
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Not having read whatever garbage is popular among the other girls is just as bad as being the last one to get ##### (or the first one to get #####). So few of them have the confidence in their own taste to say they're not going to read trash like 50 Shades.
Now, that doesn't explain why you read it.
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Because I was intrigued by sodomy***
May 7, 2014, 1:54 PM
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"Intrigued By Sodomy"
May 7, 2014, 2:00 PM
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The clemsonrulez08 story.
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Correct***
May 7, 2014, 9:14 AM
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Oculus Spirit [75807]
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We've got a whole new thread for you to go
May 7, 2014, 9:15 AM
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address this matter in.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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thanks***
May 7, 2014, 9:21 AM
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Glad to help.***
May 7, 2014, 9:22 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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Rulz I'll make a deal with you.
May 7, 2014, 9:09 AM
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Make a baby with Red and when she turns 14 let her read that.
No farking way dude...not once you have a child...no WAY you'll allow a 14 yr old to read that.
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Well Im going to marry her first, which will be in about
May 7, 2014, 9:11 AM
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2 years. Then probably wait till 30 to have a kid. So that adds 4 more years. Then add 14 years to that in order to make your wish come true.
Should we exchange numbers? 20 years is a long time.
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Re: At some point you'll need to shut up b/c you know
May 7, 2014, 9:14 AM
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not what you speak of. Srs dude shut up.
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Walkin around with a big stick***
May 7, 2014, 9:17 AM
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Re: I will TD you in real life***
May 7, 2014, 9:20 AM
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Re: I will TD you in real life***
May 7, 2014, 9:21 AM
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nah....but trust me when I tell you that boy or girl there
May 7, 2014, 9:15 AM
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is no way you'll condone your 14 yr old reading something that explicit.
I mean, unless I've wrongly pegged you as someone with at least SOME sense.
Reread the passage and tell me you would give that to your 14 yr old neighbor, cousin, niece to read. And you could look their parents in the eye and be all like "what? I don't think it's that bad".
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This is 2014, not 1940.
May 7, 2014, 9:16 AM
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You can turn on the TV and see much worse than that passage. At least he kissed her.
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On what channel?
May 7, 2014, 9:19 AM
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Presumably you would be responsible enough as a parent to have parental controls set on your tv.
Which channel would you find that on other than a premium channel or on-demand, again assuming you would have SOME filter?
Or let's start here: Are you going to filter ANYTHING from your kids? Any internet or tv filter?
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Rock Defender [54]
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Or nah...it's 2034. Filter lol watch what you want hunny
May 7, 2014, 9:20 AM
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if you like those folks that wrestle naked it's on Cinemax at 2AM. Bedtime? lol, not in 2034. What do you think this is? 2014? lolololol
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Re: stopped reading at "responsible enough as a parent"***
May 7, 2014, 9:20 AM
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Im not sure the last time you watched MTV
May 7, 2014, 9:21 AM
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but there is sex in almost every show.
Also, yes, I will filter channels for kids, but at what point do you turn them off? This is high school though, not middle school or elementary school. I read books that had sex scenes in it and its not like it turned me into this unstoppable force that needed to get some poosay. 100% of the time I read through it just to get it over with so I could be prepared for whatever quiz was going to be the next day.
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The school they are in is only semantics
May 7, 2014, 9:26 AM
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14 is 14.
When I was 14, 9th grade was in middle school.
When to turn off the filter? Not real sure. Not about turning the kid into a prostitute, more about exposing them to stuff THAT graphic. Yes they will have a basic idea of what is going on by 14, but to PROVIDE and CONDONE them reading something that graphic? C'mon man.
Everyone can raise their kids differently, and I wouldn't necessarily agree that the majority is always right. That being said, I think you would find yourself in the minority on this one...and by minority I mean probably 90%+ parents would agree with me on this one.
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Trust me
May 7, 2014, 9:27 AM
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if this was the first time this guys daughter had been exposed to those words or phrases.. I would be very surprised.
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That's not the point. Like Prod asked
May 7, 2014, 9:28 AM
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once they are exposed to it then you condone it as a parent?
lol
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Its like six lines dude.
May 7, 2014, 9:30 AM
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You can expose a kid to something without condoning it.
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Re: Just wait until his kid is 5, he brings it to Death Vall
May 7, 2014, 9:30 AM
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ey and some drunk Frat is cussing out the refs.
Stop talking to the PF.
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I have been to Death Valley with my three nephews
May 7, 2014, 9:34 AM
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and sit in the Young Alum section and there are F bombs all the time. Your point has nothing to do with the conversation
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Rock Defender [54]
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And besides, they've probably already heard it before
May 7, 2014, 9:38 AM
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they say it on MTV and of ALL the words they spoke during the game, the F bomb was probably only used like 6 times.
What's the big deal?
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Youre all worked up
May 7, 2014, 9:41 AM
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My oldest nephew is 7. The last thing on his mind is MTV.
All Im trying to say here is, its a book. Its not pornography. Clearly the teacher had approval to use the book in her classroom from someone higher up than her. They didnt send the approval form home with kids, which was a mistake. If someone high up in my school board approved this book, then they approved it. If the teacher used it without approval, there lies my second problem.
Everyone raises kids differently. Currently, you have experience I do not, but I was at that age more recently than you. A 14 year old reads this book and hardly even notices what they just read, or just isnt reading the book at all, especially if its for an assignment.
Sorry if I have offended you, but this is just my opinion, which isnt meant to upset you or anyone else.
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I'm not worked up nor upset, so no worries.
May 7, 2014, 9:43 AM
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And while agreed it was approved by someone, I cannot imagine for the life of me why. And would bet that 90%+ parents would agree...not the time nor place nor subject matter (at least presented like that) for a 14 yr old.
Let's move on to better threads.
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And BTW I don't think MTV uses words or images
May 7, 2014, 9:27 AM
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like "come" and "erection", but then again I don't watch MTV so I could be wrong.
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Youre right
May 7, 2014, 9:31 AM
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But when a dude has a tent in his pants, wouldnt there be questions?
But I can tell you they learn about erections and ### in sex ed.
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I don't know what this book is, but there is
May 7, 2014, 9:28 AM
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probably a less racy alternative to whatever lesson it may have tied into. Sure, the sex is out there. The youths these days know what is going on shockingly early. But the school shouldn't assign things that put their mind in the gutter.
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The schools are choosing what they want to teach
May 7, 2014, 9:32 AM
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Whether parents like it or not.
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HOME SCHOOL! HOME SCHOOL! HOME SCHOOL!***
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do you home school your girls?
May 7, 2014, 10:11 AM
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srs, 'cuz I think this is the 2nd reference you've made this week...juss wondering
(but then again, youse guise both work)
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Shhhhhheaaaaaaaaaat
May 7, 2014, 10:12 AM
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I think home schooling is insane.
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ok
May 7, 2014, 10:13 AM
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good.
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This thread is hilarious. I honestly can't believe there are
May 7, 2014, 11:56 AM
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people out there who don't see any big deal with this. I heard the lines in the book this morning, anyone who thinks that's acceptable reading for 9th graders is insane. There's got to be boundaries.
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Insane. And those saying otherwise probably don't have kids
May 9, 2014, 8:22 AM
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or are raising the next no boundaries kid you would never want to have anything to do with.
Insane.
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Heck, you won't even find that on a premium channel
May 7, 2014, 1:47 PM
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They can't show dude's wangs or ########### even in the soft core #### that Skinnemax shows.
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this is why i cancelled the movie package.
May 7, 2014, 2:43 PM
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You may be right but adults shouldn't promote sex
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particularly unprotected sex.
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I think the question that we SHOULD be asking is, is
May 7, 2014, 9:06 AM
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Re: I hope you are blessed with a daughter one day***
May 7, 2014, 9:09 AM
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Is that you Prod?***
May 7, 2014, 9:10 AM
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Re: No, Prod wouldn't call you a Poverty Phaggot
May 7, 2014, 9:11 AM
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phaggot
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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The fact is, that tiny excerpt I read wasn't nearly as bad
May 7, 2014, 9:25 AM
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as stuff that's on general broadcast TV as it is now.
And not nearly as graphic as other required books. Just because it deals with sexuality it is suddenly uber taboo; however, we require kids to read Huck Finn, which is full of complete racism.
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All-In [40657]
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BUT RACISM ISNT SEX
May 7, 2014, 9:26 AM
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AND YOU DONT HAVE A DAUGHTER
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Rock Defender [54]
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Go ahead and buy your child the book for her 14th birthday
May 7, 2014, 9:36 AM
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Or just print the cliffs and give it to her:
Dude pumping a chick, her saying no, him covering her mouth and coming leaving hot and sticky ##### pooled all over the carpet and her cleaning it up hoping there is no stain.
HAPPY 14th BIRTHDAY JULIE! HOPE YOU ENJOY THE STORY DADDY AND MOMMY GOT FOR YOU!
lol
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All-In [40657]
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But they love each other, so its fine!
May 7, 2014, 9:37 AM
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All of this coming from the guy asking for newds of a 23 year old.
lol
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Rock Defender [54]
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my apologies if you cannot delineate between ongoing
May 7, 2014, 9:41 AM
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sarcastic comments (NOODS OF RED) and a semi-serious discussion on parenting.
Perhaps the fact that you are not a parent won't allow you to examine the topic more objectively.
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Oculus Spirit [97823]
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I read several books that dealt with sexuality in high
May 7, 2014, 9:44 AM
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school. None talked about cleaning up ##### stains off the carpet so your parents wouldn't find out. But if you can't differentiate between Hustler and the SI swimsuit issue, I can't help you there.
Oh, please to be telling us about the more graphic books.
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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Catcher in the Rye, The Color Purple, Of Mice & Men,
May 7, 2014, 9:53 AM
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Huckleberry Finn, etc.
All of very graphic language, incredibly racist tones, overall lessons can easily be misinterpreted, etc.
I have not made an argument that I thought the school is right in making kids read the book...in fact, I do think it was wrong for required reading. My argument is that it isn't as big of deal as people are making it out to be...and especially not one to go "crack skulls" over.
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Oculus Spirit [97823]
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Please to be posting the graphic sex scenes
May 7, 2014, 10:01 AM
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Thx in advance.
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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I didn't say more graphic sex scenes, I meant more graphic
May 7, 2014, 10:03 AM
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as in describing killing and violence in all its gory detail.
I'm making a point that tiny amount of sex is a huge taboo, but massive amounts of violence seem kosher.
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Such is America***
May 7, 2014, 10:09 AM
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speak for yourself.***
May 7, 2014, 10:08 AM
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Rock Defender [54]
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this is
May 7, 2014, 10:45 AM
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my favorite post of this discussion.
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Bunch of pervs getting off on giving 14 year old girls
May 7, 2014, 9:48 AM
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#### in school. Freaks.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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i don't agree w/ the material being read, but you
May 7, 2014, 9:49 AM
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obviously don't know what #### is.
Sauce: ####.
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And these last two posts are perfect examples of
May 7, 2014, 9:54 AM
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"defining deviancy down."
Google it if you don't know or remember the phrase.
Of course it's ####.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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back in '01 I obtained a cable descrambler box (for science)
May 7, 2014, 9:57 AM
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SheGUAR was like 'hey, let's watch some ####'...and unbeknownst to me, she had never actually seen #### ####....and she was like "ZOMG, they actually show it going in??!!!"
and then she left the room.
At first I was like
but then I was all
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Oculus Spirit [81994]
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I call BS. Unless if you magically unscrambled Playboy
May 7, 2014, 9:59 AM
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channel or something (the stuff you have to pay for per the show) all cable stuff was soft core ####.
I was shocked to find out a soft core porno was filmed at a hotel I stayed at once out west (think it was Colorado)
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it got all the PPV channels
May 7, 2014, 10:03 AM
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ALL.OF.THEM.
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CU Medallion [54758]
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an racy excerpt in a 300 page book doesn't make it ####
May 7, 2014, 10:07 AM
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just as having a beer doesn't make one an alcoholic.
I don't want my daughter consuming either @ 14 years old.
However, let's not make it into something it's not to support your overreaction.
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Sir, what you are suggesting is purely Un-American.***
May 7, 2014, 10:12 AM
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Why are they assigning Jodi Picoult in school anyway?
May 7, 2014, 1:34 PM
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Trash is trash. A better writer would've found a more artful way to say something similar rather than be so explicit.
I'd be more upset about the dumbing down of the curriculum than about the silly pornographic scene in the novel.
At any rate, whether kids will look at #### on the internet or not shouldn't make any difference in what gets assigned for reading at school. I'm not sure our vices are the best guides for our education.
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This.
May 7, 2014, 1:56 PM
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I'd be pissed that my kids were reading garbage.
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shouldn't we care more about what is being taught?
May 7, 2014, 2:50 PM
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from the book? What is the lesson going to be? Teachers often try to assign books that kids WANT to read over dry classics in which similar themes are addressed. It doesn't matter as much the comparative quality of the writing as much as the themes presented.
Step 1: get the kids to read a book (hard part)
Step 2: analyze themes, structure, characters, etc...
Step 3: write ideas down and turn in or talk about in class
Step 4: ?
Step 5: profit!
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I don't think it should be required reading, but
May 7, 2014, 1:53 PM
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more because it's just not a meritorious piece of literature deserving of required reading in the canon of lit.
Those decrying its sexual nature probably didn't understand about half of the Shakespeare you read in High School.
Go re-read Act I, Scene 1 in R&J.
That's some pretty churlish locker room talk.
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