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Orange Blooded [2347]
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And the GOP trifecta is complete.
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So, from a Dem trifecta under Biden in 2020 to a GOP trifecta in 2024 with -- as a bonus -- a 6-3 majority on SCOTUS bench.
Talk about watching the home team get routed. It's Clemson-Florida State 2018.
Was gonna suggest the DNC do a bit of introspection, and adopt Michael Jackson's "Man in the Mirror" as their get-right song for 2025.
But isn't "man" one of their trigger words?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9NYDgbKsBE
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Re: And the GOP trifecta is complete.
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:19 AM
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“Tran in the mirror?”
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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See now I'M triggered.
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:34 AM
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We should just close this thread.
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110%er [4038]
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Re: See now I'M triggered.
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:40 AM
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Nah I’m just trying to be respectful to the democrats.
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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Now we can't close the thread. It's designated an official TNET safe space.
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:44 AM
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110%er [4038]
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Re: Now we can't close the thread. It's designated an official TNET safe space.
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:46 AM
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Very important!
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Tiger Titan [45867]
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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!!!
Nov 14, 2024, 7:59 AM
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Tiger Titan [45867]
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The Dems definitely need introspection
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:50 AM
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They have, once again, run a masterclass on incompetency, arrogance, and ineptitude. They are out of touch with the American people. Their failure to produce any sort of viable candidate to replace Biden--and I mean early on, as in not letting Biden run again--cost them this election.
But if you think anything good is coming from the other side, and the recent appointments show it's not, you're just as inept as they are.
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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I have some concerns over some of the appointments.
Nov 14, 2024, 8:03 AM
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I had same concerns over some of Biden's, too.
And I had concerns over Bidenomics. And still do because I paid $5 for that $2 loaf of sourdough sitting over there by the $20 toaster I paid $40 for last week.
No one man/party has all the answers.
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Tiger Titan [45867]
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Re: I have some concerns over some of the appointments.
Nov 14, 2024, 8:17 AM
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No one man/party has all the answers.
I'm glad you realize that. Maybe communicate that message to some of the little Trumpkin fanboys here.
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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Eh. Let's just all eat cake.
Nov 14, 2024, 1:14 PM
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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And July can't wait for you.
Nov 14, 2024, 2:06 PM
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Orange Beast [6243]
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Re: And the GOP trifecta is complete.
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Nov 14, 2024, 7:51 AM
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We've heard for four years from the board kooks how Trump was a cancer to the party yet even during an overall successful election day for the Pubs Trump outperformed most of them. Guess that's another terrible take we won't have to hear for a few weeks at least.
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Biden had a trifecta. Trump last time started with a trifecta. Obama
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Nov 14, 2024, 8:33 AM
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started with a trifecta. GWB had a trifecta.
I predict in 4 years we will still have an illegal alien problem, just as we did after Trump's last 4 years (2 years with a trifecta). We will still have massive budget deficits, just like Trump's last time, and we will have a much higher national debt, and we will still have a massive trade deficit......just like......
Anyway, everything above is what will happen in 4 years if everything goes well. To the extent any of those things are reversed, we will decline. People will be unhappy, and angry, and if Trump doesn't manage to get annointed President for Life, with rules for succession (to his kids of course), then the next election will see the GOP trapse out some other unabashed fascist, and the dems will go straight communist, and we will have the Weimar Republic's exact politics competing in our own failed democracy.
Lord help us. I pray Trump gets roughly half his wishes granted, and is stonewalled on the other half. Reality and human nature tells me, if anything, the half I don't want to see, will happen, and the half I would like to see, will not happen.
Trump has once again thrown out the red meat of Congressional term limits, one of the issues guaranteed to garner votes (one of his issues I'd love to see succeed). He has 87% of Americans on his side, and that's a LOT of dems too. I fear, just as last time, he's not serious about it, because his goal isn't to fix the system we have, but make it his own. If he really wanted term limits for Congress, he would be going to the governors to get that done, and not bother with Congress. He will instead, I fear, "push Congress" to limit their own terms in office (which they will never do), then he will use that to acquire more power and control.
We shall see. Every history book I've ever read says Trump is dangerous. Every history book I've ever read also says we have problems, and Trump is predictable.
If I could go back in time, and sit down in Independence Hall with the founding fathers, and give ONE piece of advice while drafting our Constitution, it would be to BE MORE SPECIFIC drafting Article V. Set out rules, a plan, a specific process for its use. I think their assumptions of "the people" were a little too lofty back then, as "the people" are not the same people today. You draft a document of that importance for people, period. ALL people. Slaves. Immigrants. Non-Christians. There was too much Rousseau in that room and not enough Hume, and Burke IMHO.
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..."if Trump doesn't manage to get annointed
Nov 14, 2024, 8:42 AM
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President for Life, with rules for succession (to his kids of course), then the next election will see the GOP trapse out some other unabashed fascist, and the dems will go straight communist, and we will have the Weimar Republic's exact politics competing in our own failed democracy."
That's funny, right there.
Did you shave your head yet?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102590]
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No. Just the standard tinfoil deflector beanie. Nothing else.***
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Nov 14, 2024, 10:33 AM
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The abbreviated version
Nov 14, 2024, 9:09 AM
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Flash forward four years, and take a wild guess: we’ll still be tangled up in the same “unsolvable” messes—immigration drama, runaway debt, a trade deficit the size of a small galaxy. But hey, maybe that’s our best-case outcome. If things don’t go “well,” public outrage will spike, and if Trump doesn’t pull a Putin and lock in his dynasty, the next election will just be the GOP trotting out another mini-autocrat while the Dems compete to see who can nationalize the most industries.
And let’s talk about Trump’s latest throwback hit: term limits for Congress. Everybody loves it! 87% of Americans think it’s a great idea—too bad it’s as real as Bigfoot. If Trump were serious, he’d go to the governors, but instead he’ll just do his usual: ask Congress to limit itself (good luck with that), then act shocked when they won’t and use it as yet another power grab.
If I could pull a time-travel favor and whisper to the Founding Fathers, I’d say, “Hey, maybe spell out Article V—like, maybe put it in all caps clearly, in crayon if necessary” Spell out the rules, add diagrams, whatever it takes so future Americans don’t have to keep watching history play out as if it’s on a loop, with the same tired plot twists and a few more cameras.
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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Every history book I've ever read teaches me that
Nov 14, 2024, 1:42 PM
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if the arc of the universe bends toward justice, the instrument of that justice (government) bends toward despotism.
It's Hobbes. People would rather be safe than free.
Trump is promising safety. He may strike at the root of freedom in the process of providing that safety. We'll see.
Which is why I take comfort knowing Article V creates such a friction point for those who might in a spirit of political/national summum bonum bend the founding documents to their individual wills/political ends.
Because I don't mind ancient lawmakers roaming the capitol so much as I'd mind having swaths of the Constitution rewritten by the majority every two/four years.
I'm not convinced Trump's a fascist in waiting. I do worry he may stray constitutionally and open the door for an actual one down the line.
And while I understand your take on Weimar, I'd have to gently push back on the parallels between an economically-devastated and nationally humiliated post WWI Germany, and 2024 America. We're not as hungry as they were, we don't have the UN strangling our means of production, or scuttling our right to exist by limiting our standing army.
I really enjoyed your poast, btw. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
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Re: Every history book I've ever read teaches me that
Nov 14, 2024, 2:07 PM
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Trump is promising safety. He may strike at the root of freedom in the process of providing that safety. We'll see.
There is nothing okay about this, and Trump does not give two ##### about anyone's safety but his own and his family's.
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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We'll see***
Nov 14, 2024, 2:09 PM
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I take little comfort in Article V, even though I firmly believe it is the
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Nov 14, 2024, 4:32 PM
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preferred alternative over acquiescing to despotism.
Congress has already rewritten the Constitution many times, each time leaving off their own biggest problems and failing to address their own weaknesses. Limiting terms, we will be better served by people who understand Congress is not a career choice, but a term of public service, as intended. We will get leaders more willing to do what is right, over doing what we want to hear to get reelected.
Article V was poorly constructed, as almost an afterthought, but by all accounts it was included to addresses procedural weaknesses that may arise in Congress that would serve to benefit Congress, to the detriment of the people. By passing the 16th Amendment, Congress is in a position to subvert even the states, if threatened by Article V. They already achieve universal, nationwide laws beyond their own authority to enact, by threatening to withhold federal funds. They will do the same to thwart Article V. They will also pay heavily to subvert the process by buying off legislators, and having them water down amendments until nothing can pass their state's legislature.
Like I said, very little faith in Article V, even though it is the preferred solution over despotism.
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Orange Blooded [2347]
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A friend of mine was elected to Congress.
Nov 15, 2024, 11:43 AM
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The morning after his surprise win over a very, very ensconced incumbent, he called me.
"I just realized that I'll now just be 1/435 of 1/2 of 1/3rd of the government."
It took him two terms in the House just to grasp parliamentary procedures, committee rules, voting, legislative process, and of course internecine squabbling that effectively ground all governing to a halt.
Nevermind the crushing weight of district-related obligations/duties and cattle calls.
His third term, he was able to get some stuff done. He got out after that -- after he'd solidified his lifetime congressional pension that comes available after the third term.
This goes to the idea that, unfortunately and until the federal bureaucracy is made less onerous and burdensome, being a member of congress is a full-time, professional job.
And that's why term limits, if actually passed, should not be just one or two terms, or three or four, even.
But I would be okay with making it ALOT harder for congress to give themselves raises and lifetime perks. That I could get behind.
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The Fed Gov't needs an intervention
Nov 14, 2024, 4:17 PM
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this administration is probably the closest we will ever get. Every department, every agency, every branch needs anything from a trim to a buzzcut.
Too many people providing no value to the US citizens that pay them.
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