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College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:34 PM
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In 5-10 years it’s guaranteed the stands will be half full at best.
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:39 PM
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I believe that you're exactly right. And, that's a shame. I've been a Tiger for over 60 years, and I've never seen anything like this.
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:46 PM
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It is getting extremely hard for me to even watch college football anymore. If this NIL garbage gets any worse, then I’m done. Been a Clemson fan since 1956, was a season ticket holder until I went into the military and then a short time after until I was transferred to take another position out of state and can only get to 1 and at most 2 games a year. Now that is pushing it.
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Orange Blooded [2369]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:22 PM
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I have actually kind of enjoyed the bowl games with teams no where close to big time. At least some of those kids are still playing for love of football and an education.
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:43 PM
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Heck yeah.... There should be a template for each position on the field and if you don't pass pregame inspections, then you can't play and your position coach is suspended for the next game.
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Campus Hero [13959]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:48 PM
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I bet it will be doing great at the big-time schools, but many of the smaller less successful programs will just fold it up.
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Legend [6846]
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:49 PM
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I could definitely see smaller programs not even bothering at some point. Football always been expensive and it's only getting more so going forward.
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Orange Blooded [2421]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:56 PM
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I still think there will be a split of the ncaa. The smaller teams and those that like college football for all the reasons it has been around for the last 100 years will form their own league. The question is how many schools will form the new league. If I am Usc, Duke , Wake, Vandy , Miss. ST and many more and can't afford to be competitive in the pro league then I would get out. We can stay in but as time goes on the same 4 or 5 teams will dominate and espn will make sure of it.
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Campus Hero [13959]
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Re: Huh? Schools are still adding football, not taking it away. What's your thesis
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:29 PM
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I think the fans will fade at those junk football schools. It will be more obvious their bowls don't matter and that they are irrelevant down the road. Short thesis.
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Commissioner [1277]
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They usually don't have big fanbases anyways, so not sure the reasoning is
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:53 PM
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sound. Also, oftentimes it's an alumni recruitment issue and cache that schools have football vs not having it. Usual UNCC as an example, they (and some big boosters) decided to invest in football even though it's very costly and there was 0 fan base and it would be hard to create one. It was deemed beneficial to the school even implicitly knowing they'd be a big boy in terms of football. I just dont see schools folding shop and going home.
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Campus Hero [13959]
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Re: They usually don't have big fanbases anyways, so not sure the reasoning is
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:57 PM
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They will get smaller and eventually be done. They will be old relics.
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Orange Blooded [2421]
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Re: Huh? Schools are still adding football, not taking it away. What's your thesis
Dec 24, 2024, 10:11 AM
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on why ?
I don’t think football will go away but it will lose so much fan base. Why would you want to be usc and although you may improve but may never make the playoffs. They will fix it next year to make sure Uga, Osu, ND, Bama, Texas, Oregon are in the playoffs. They do not want Smu, Clemson, Boise State, and ASU in it each year. I feel good we will be out of the ACC by 2030 but at that point do we become a Kentucky, USC, Wisconsin, in another conference. I just like at some point all but maybe 20 schools will be in the semi pro league and the rest who knows where they go.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Athletic Dir [1184]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 23, 2024, 7:54 PM
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This is where real college football makes its return. Call it lower tier or what ever but start a league of schools that can’t do the money thing and certainly bar the big boys from joining. Lock em out somehow. Then play real collegiate football again. I know it’s far fetched but if enough schools are interested, go for it. Give it a try vs folding.
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Game Changer [1891]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 23, 2024, 9:24 PM
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Lower tier coaches don’t make $11mil per year
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:54 PM
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It's become disgusting.
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Tiger Spirit [9319]
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Greed will kill it!!!***
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:54 PM
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Valley Legend [12774]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 4:59 PM
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Is it dying or is it being murdered by greedy idiots.
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Game Day Hero [4543]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:07 PM
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Is it dying or is it being murdered by greedy idiots.
Being Murdered by GREEDY Idiots!
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1st Rounder [676]
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:17 PM
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As a RYAN BLANEY fan…I’m loving NASCAR
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Clemson Conqueror [11318]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:26 PM
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need to increase the number of available players to reduce the cost
who cares if someone plays 10 years or has played professionally
would be higher competition and less player movement
great QBs would have to get by with a million lol
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Clemson Conqueror [11318]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:36 PM
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can we bet on this and myfavorange hold the money?
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Be glad to hold the money.***
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Dec 23, 2024, 6:46 PM
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Offensive Star [316]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:55 PM
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Agreed!!!
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Dynasty Maker [3181]
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College football called...
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Dec 23, 2024, 5:56 PM
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And said that you don't know what you're talking about.
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Clemson Conqueror [12006]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 6:43 PM
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I think that is an excellent comparison. It used to be that every Sunday when you watched a race on TV, the entire stands were stuffed with people. Now when you watch, all the attendees are grouped mostly around the start finish line or where the cameras show them. When the camera scans around the track, the stands are at least half empty. I rarely watch anymore and guessing that I am not alone. I would not be surprised to see college football meet the same fate.
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1st Rounder [607]
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Dec 23, 2024, 7:00 PM
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Agreed. College Football as many of us know and love is over. Sad the game will never be the same, ever.
My first visit to Clemson was the 1979 or 80 game against Wake Forest. I fell in love with Clemson that day, a truly special and unique place!
I became an IPTAY member and season ticket holder in 1980 and maintained that through 2000. Clemson football became a priority in my life and that priority tragically cost me dearly. Pathetically and significantly it contributed to a very painful and economically devastating divorce. My wonderful wife did not want to drive four hours every Saturday, every year, to Clemson plus travel to most away games and bowl trips. I was was too stupid and selfish not to understand that until it was too late.
My season tickets for the last six years until 2000 were in the south side lower stands (section F) on the 48 yd. line and my parking pass was on press box road literally 100 yards from the entrance. I took so much arrogant pride in my exceptional seats and displaying the gold IPTAY decal on my vehicle every year.
I do miss going to the Valley on Saturdays and I miss that I was not there for the last two national championships years. But I do not regret shifting my priorities back to a new marriage, family, children and grandchildren. I think many in my age range (circa 1953) may have similar sentiments. I still watch all the games, support my Tigers, wear orange and detest the lowly gamecocks.
Probably many can’t understand this especially from an Alabama alumnus.
I miss the way college football was meant to be.
Go Tigers!
Roll Tide!!
p.s.
SMU did not belong in the playoffs.
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Game Changer [1785]
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Dying.. by what metric?
Dec 23, 2024, 7:09 PM
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Not by ratings.. and not by TV revenue.. so how is it dying??
Btw.. if you're referring to the empty bowl stadiums, those have been empty for years. My understanding is ESPN sells all the bowls as a package to advertisers which means they can't cherry pick games.
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Re: Dying.. by what metric?
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Dec 23, 2024, 8:19 PM
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He’s not talking about right now. He’s making a projection 10 years out.
What is the product differentiator between the NFL and college football? Aside from some geographical markets where there’s no NFL team (like Alabama or Mississippi for example) the main reason to watch a college team is a connection with the university. If the players aren’t really connected anymore to the university aside from the jersey and are just hired guns so to speak why watch college guys who are simply not as good of football players as NFL guys? They’re going to kill the golden goose if they continue down the same path and don’t get a super structure organization in control of the power 4 or top 50 teams IMO.
The top few programs will eventually rule the roost but guess what that’ll do, basically only ensure the top program’s fans are watching for the most part….
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Glad some of you are seeing what unregulated capitalism does.
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Dec 23, 2024, 7:14 PM
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It destroys things, just like our health care system.
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Dynasty Maker [3181]
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To quote ELF
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Dec 23, 2024, 7:42 PM
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You sit on a throne of lies.
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Game Day Hero [4380]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
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Dec 23, 2024, 8:22 PM
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Interesting parallel. Tailoring to corporate interests and mimicking other models when you already had a successful model and dedicated fanbase.
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Tiger Spirit [9366]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 24, 2024, 2:11 AM
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More than decent analogy
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Tiger Spirit [9366]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 24, 2024, 2:14 AM
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More than decent analogy
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Athletic Dir [1119]
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 24, 2024, 10:12 AM
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It won't change until people stop watching it. When we all turn the games off or don't show up, that is when change will happen. But not until then.
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 24, 2024, 10:17 AM
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Better tell Texas fans that it is dying. Attendance is only 105,000 fans. They seemed to enjoy their home game.
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 24, 2024, 12:35 PM
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I've been thinking the same thing all year. NASCAR alienated it's core fan base. They walked away from what made it popular. College football is doing the exact same thing. I've been a Clemson fan since 1982. If your curious Dwight Clark was the reason. This year I haven't watched a complete college game. I'm really disappointed what money has done to a great sport.
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Game Changer [1863]
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Watch the non CFP bowl attendance now. With the opt outs and transfer portal,
Dec 24, 2024, 2:51 PM
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how many fans are going to travel to watch these games? The bowls will continue as long as the media revenue is there, so the actual attendance is not a big factor until TV ratings begin to fall. ESPN needs to keep them for their December windows. I used to be a bowl game junkie, but I have not watched a minute of one this year and have no desire to outside the ones affiliated with the CFP. If viewership falls, then the corporate sponsorship will follow, and I can see some bowl games becoming extinct. Maybe there will be more schools hosting bowl games like Coastal Carolina and Louisiana Tech this year.
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Game Day Hero [4472]
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Dec 24, 2024, 3:03 PM
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Seems more and more fans are turned off by the pay for play insanity. I know I am. Dook is paying 8 million for Darian Mensah QB. Yes, dook friggin football!!
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Re: College Football is dying just like Nascar did.
Dec 24, 2024, 5:10 PM
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What do you know about Nascar? LOL
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