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Then there's this
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The judge’s daughter, Loren Merchan, is president of Authentic Campaigns, a Chicago-based progressive political consulting firm whose top clients include Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), who was the lead prosecutor in Trump’s first impeachment trial, and the Senate Majority PAC, a major party fundraiser.
Judge Juan Merchan posing for a picture with his daughter, Loren Merchan
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Team Trump has repeatedly called for Judge Merchan (left) to recuse himself in the case.
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“Authentic Campaigns, and thus the judge’s daughter, is actively making money from this sham attack against President Trump, rendering Judge Merchan conflicted out,” Trump spokesman Steven Cheung told The Post, adding that evidence of bias is even clearer now than it was in August when Merchan rejected Trump’s first recusal motion.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/30/us-news/dem-clients-of-daughter-of-judge-in-trump-trial-raised-90m-off-case/
She's getting rich off her daddy's case.
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Re: Then there's this
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Apr 18, 2024, 7:17 AM
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Luckily there is a jury.
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Re: Then there's this
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Apr 18, 2024, 7:22 AM
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Luckily there is a jury.
Said by a man who thinks the judge is not a very important player in a trial
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Re: Then there's this
Apr 18, 2024, 7:43 AM
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Really? Is that what I said?
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Re: Then there's this
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Apr 18, 2024, 8:45 AM
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Really? Is that what I said?
Yes sir
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Re: Then there's this
Apr 18, 2024, 8:46 AM
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Okay
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Re: Then there's this
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Apr 18, 2024, 7:26 AM
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Now do Clarence Thomas. I'll wait.
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Whatabout....***
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Re: Whatabout....***
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That was a quick tap out.
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That's some serious
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Apr 18, 2024, 7:52 AM
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buttffukking going on right there...
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So Birm had enough...?***
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Re: Then there's this
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Apr 18, 2024, 8:53 AM
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### does Clarence Thomas have to do with this case?
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Re: Then there's this
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Getting triggered over the political leanings of a judges immediate family members ONLY when it's "the other side", but be being perfectly content with it as long as they agree with them politically. Game, Set, Match. Any more questions? 😆
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Re: Then there's this
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SMH.
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Re: Then there's this
Apr 20, 2024, 8:18 PM
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You’re hilariously bad at this
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Ill worry about C.Thomas when he presides over N.Y. vs Trump
Apr 23, 2024, 12:05 AM
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In the meantime, Clarence Thomas is of zero relevance to the crooked N.Y. judge (Merchan) who is at this very moment presiding over the N.Y. vs. Trump case.
Looks like you and your cult followeres (BTW, congrats … several TNet lefties look to you for thought leadership!) are tacitly admitting that N.Y. judge Juan Merchan is indeed compromised, and therefore corrupt.
OK then. Would you agree that the N.Y. court system is engaging in LawFare to keep Trump off of the campaign trail?
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Re: Then there's this
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Apr 18, 2024, 12:33 PM
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Because he didn't have a problem with it when it involved a judge he liked.
Do you have a problem with both judges? Or just the Trump trial one?
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Nope. All three. Engoron, Kaplan, and Merchan.***
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But no problem with Aileen Cannon I assume,
Apr 19, 2024, 6:15 PM
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who Trump appointed. No conflict of interest there, right?
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I haven't heard anything about her rulings yet. Based on actions, not parties.***
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But according to you Merchan already should be
Apr 19, 2024, 6:41 PM
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dismissed because of his daughter’s political leanings, but Aileen Cannon being appointed by Trump is totally ok to hear his case?
(And judging by her rulings so far, she is doing everything she can to help Trump).
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I've heard of some T-Rump motions she denied but nothing lately.
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As to your comparison, either you're trying to be obtuse or just devoid of reasoning. The two are nowhere near analogous.
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As I thought, you only care about potential conflict
Apr 20, 2024, 5:08 PM
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of interest if it could potentially negatively affect your lord and savior Trump.
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No. I just believe in justice, fairly applied. This is political interference.***
Apr 23, 2024, 11:25 AM
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Judge Merchan is an elected judge; elected as a Democrat.
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Apr 23, 2024, 12:28 AM
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You’ve confused yourself again.
Aileen Cannon (Trump appointee), Amy Totenberg (Obama appointee), and Ana Reyes (Biden appointee) are, well, appointed.
The N.Y. judges who have / are presiding over the various N.Y. vs Trump trials, e.g., Engoron, Kaplan, and Merchan, are all elected judges. Each of these judges are in record as having donated to Democrat politicians … but never to Republican politicians. To add to the fun, both of the cases in which no actual citizen plaintiff existed, the prosecutors were elected … as Demicrats. Add to that, the jury pool in each of the two jury trials in N.Y. against defendant Trump comes from a citizenry in which ~ 90% of them are registered Democrats.
Does any fair minded American believe that a fair trial can be had in which one party in a lawsuit is a prominent Republican?
Even in the N.Y. trial in which Trump was accused of r_ _e (the first E.Jean Carroll case), in which Ms. Carroll admitted that her ‘definition’ of r_ _e was not recognized as remotely technically correct by any legal authority in America, the jury did not unanimously vote that Trump was NOT guilty of r_ _e.
Due process under the law is a constitutional right. Yet, NY State flaunts this blatant due process violation when a prominent Republican is gets dragged into a lawsuit.
Thus, in these N.Y. cases involving Trump as a defendant, the cry of “election interference” is true, loud and clear
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Re: Then there's this
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This judge could have a blog calling for Trumps assassination and nobody on the left would care. You think they care that his daughter is a Marxist piece of crap? See Hunter Biden.
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Re: Then there's this
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His daughter shouldn't even be a factor.
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"She's getting rich off her daddy's case."
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Man, do I have a dose of irony for you...
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No, you have a dose of whataboutism***
Apr 18, 2024, 7:57 AM
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You may have a pinch of hypocrisy.***
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They're trying to put
Apr 18, 2024, 8:37 AM
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the gop nominee in prison
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Huh, imagine that
Apr 18, 2024, 8:38 AM
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He probably broke the law and he's getting tried for it. What a crazy idea.
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Biden DEFINITELY did and he's not... Lawfare.***
Apr 18, 2024, 8:46 AM
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What laws did he DEFINITELY break?
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If you're doing to say something about illegal immigration, then we can lock up the last 15 Presidents and be done with this thread. You have anything else?
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Re: What laws did he DEFINITELY break?
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He doesn't. Just talking outta his @ss.
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And you need to get your nose out of there, Sniffy...***
Apr 18, 2024, 10:58 AM
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And
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the judge is clearly conflicted.
That's not justice.
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Because of his daughter?
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Y'all told us over and over that Trump's family entanglements were fine. You told us there's nothing wrong with what Clarence Thomas did. But NOW you have a problem with family connections?
Do you have clear evidence that his daughter is causing him to run an unfair trial and is giving him kickback money off of it all?
Let's be honest, you won't be satisfied unless a biased pro-Trump judge is running this because you think he shouldn't be tried for anything. Ever. At all.
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This is the second trial where statutes of limitations have been either ignored
Apr 18, 2024, 11:01 AM
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or altered to bring a case... There's no disputing that.
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Are they chanting "Lock Him Up"?
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Because I bet you hated when they did that to Hillary.
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Re: Are they chanting "Lock Him Up"?
Apr 19, 2024, 5:08 PM
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Because I bet you hated when they did that to Hillary.
Said by a man who went to law school to get stupid, job well done sir
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That does seem like a conflict of interest. It's interesting that they had to
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ask the judge if he thought he should recuse himself from the case. I guess that's standard process.
It's funny that their star witness (according to the media) is M Cohen - who has served time for lying under oath. I guess he's learned his lesson and would never do that again.
In trials on TV shows (which is where I earned my law degree) - as soon as a witness changes his story, they assume everything else he says is a lie.
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That is not a conflict of interest, sorry.***
Apr 18, 2024, 11:12 AM
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It seems like it would be easy to pick a judge whose family didn't have close
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ties to a high ranking official who actively tried to have the defendant removed from office.
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Trumpers will complain about every judge he ever faces.
Apr 18, 2024, 11:44 AM
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In this case, Trump filed a motion to recuse and it was denied because under NY ethics law recusal is not necessary based on political activities of a 1st-degree family member (e.g., a daughter) where the interests are not directly impacted by the case.
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"...are not directly impacted by the case."... Yea, right. NY ethics law; Null.***
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"Trumpers will complain about every judge" - granted. But this complaint
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actually seems valid - even with the NY ethics law.
Find a judge who doesn't have a 1st-degree family member who consults the Democratic leader of the Senate.
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Re: "Trumpers will complain about every judge" - granted. But this complaint
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Well, then the question becomes what political activities a Judge's relative is allowed to do. In NY, the question is settled (there's an ethics opinion) that asks whether the specific case will have a substantial effect on the relative's interests.
It is very common for judges to have family in political activities. Heck, look at Clarence Thomas's wife. Can Thomas hear cases about January 6?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24528059-5423-judicial-ethics-opinion-trump-hush-money-case
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"A judge must always avoid even the appearance of impropriety" - given that
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this case revolves around something that happened in 2016 and is just now findings its way to be heard in 2024 (with the election in full swing) - I do think having a judge with "close" ties to the Democratic Party has the appearance of impropriety. (I know I'm taking that statement a bit out of context) - it just seems like it would make sense to use another judge.
I understand your point about Thomas - it illustrates your point well (and muddies mine!) I do think being married to someone with extremely right leaning views of Jan6 has GOT to influence Thomas...
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Re: "A judge must always avoid even the appearance of impropriety" - given that
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This is not an opinion, it is fact
having a judge with close ties to the Democratic Party has the appearance of impropriety.
Of course it does. But the left cares not at this point about anything. Every day is like The Purge to them as along as it moves the USA along the Fundamental Transformation. Nothing is against the law or intolerable if it gets to Trump or anyone who votes for him.
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Re: "A judge must always avoid even the appearance of impropriety" - given that
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Well said. The thing is that many or most judges have "close ties" with a party, where "close ties" encompass something like whether their kid works at a place that works for someone in a party. The conflict rules aren't that broad and they never have been, to my knowledge.
We will see all of the Trumpers come to the defense of Clarence Thomas when he hears challenges to Jan. 6, and it's his wife rather than his kid. But unless the case directly impacts his wife, he can hear it (assuming the SCOTUS rule is similar to NY's; I haven't checked).
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But I bet your totally cool with Aileen Cannon being
Apr 18, 2024, 5:18 PM
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the judge in his classified documents, right?
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