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Big 12 agrees to look at WVU's travel problems
Feb 24, 2013, 11:43 PM
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http://www.exponent-telegram.com/sports/article_b06ac074-7e3e-11e2-aa76-001a4bcf887a.html
MORGANTOWN — West Virginia University’s athletic department and the Big 12 Conference have agreed to attempt to make some travel changes to accommodate the problems the Mountaineers faced during their first season in the league.
Athletic Director Oliver Luck says the league offered no guarantees because “scheduling is always a challenge” but the league has agreed to attempt to make life on the road easier in a number of areas when it can.
WVU geographically is out of place in the Big 12, with every trip not only being of 1,700 miles round trip or more but fighting a time zone change which costs them an hour returning to Morgantown.
Football did not present as much of a problem as basketball, with weekly trips and mostly weekend games, but, according to Luck, the league was agreeable to trying to arrange it so the Mountaineers do not have to travel on back-to-back weeks for conference games during the season.
This past season WVU had to travel to Texas and Texas Tech, which is the longest trip in the conference for WVU, on consecutive weeks. While the Mountaineers survived in Texas they put on a lackluster performance in losing to the Red Raiders, 49-14, that set them off on a five-game losing streak.
Basketball scheduling is far more complex than football and Luck worked out three things with the conference.
The first was to attempt to play a pair of conference road games prior to the start of the academic semester.
Journeys as long as those in the Big 12 and with some arrivals back in Morgantown being in the neighborhood of 4 in the morning are best served if there are no academic responsibilities the next day, allowing players to get back onto a regular schedule.
The second request from WVU is an important one in this same area.
“We have asked that when reasonable they give us a two-game stay over on the road,” Luck revealed.
Twice this past season WVU was scheduled to go out on the road, play a Saturday game, fly home on Sunday, practice Monday and fly out again on Tuesday for a Wednesday game.
League rules do not allow them to stay on the road during that time, so they use up most of two days traveling.
Rather than doing that, they would prefer to play a Saturday-Big Monday on the road with a Sunday stay over, which would cut back on taking the long trip to and from Morgantown.
The third request was to cut back on the number of late tips during mid-week games, not playing 9 p.m. EST games to help with the arrival time back home. Especially in winter, travel is precarious enough without building in 3 a.m. arrivals at the airport.
Luck said the league offered “no guarantees” but said it would do what it could to work with WVU to ease the travel burden in these areas.
“Every season is a grind,” Luck admitted. “It was a grind in the Big East.”
But WVU’s position in the Big 12 is unique and requires some adjustments now that they have been through it for a year.
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All-TigerNet [14488]
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Clemson in the Big XII would be a nightmare******
Feb 25, 2013, 2:04 AM
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Athletic Dir [865]
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ACC/Big XII Alliance
Feb 25, 2013, 8:28 AM
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The following would create 4 “super conferences” and preserve the ACC and Big XII from poaching from the B1G and SEC. The following would create on average 20 games per year between ACC schools and Big XII schools (Excluding WVU).
The Big XII commissioner is attempting to get a waiver from the NCAA to have a Big XII conference championship game with only 10 members. Instead of getting that wavier, he could get a waiver for the “flex game” described below:
This would be a six year deal for football only with the option to continue.
Division A (South Atlantic): Miami, FSU, GT, CU, NCST, Wake Division B (South West): TX, TX Tech, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma, OK State Division C (North): UVA, VT, WVU, Pitt, BC, Syracuse Division D (Central): UNC, Duke, L-Ville, Iowa St, Kansas, K-State
8 Conference Games made up of 5 Division Games, 1 Cross Division Game vs permanent rival, 1 Cross Division game vs 1 of 3 rotating rivals, and 1 “flex game”.
The “flex game” is played 2 Saturdays after Thanksgiving. The host divisions for the “flex games” are predetermined on a rotating basis.
In the “flex game” the first place team in Division A plays the first place team in Division B. Second vs. Second, so on and so forth. Last vs Last. The same set-up will be used in the other 2 divisions.
The winners of the two “first place flex games” will meet the following week in the Championship Game. The winner of the Championship game will have a guaranteed spot in the NCAA play-off.
All TV money generated from games played in ACC stadiums will go to the ACC. All TV money generated from games played in Big 12 stadiums will go to the Big 12.
Permanent Rivals (set-up to maximize TV money and in some cases regional rivalries): CU – VA Tech FSU - Texas Miami - Oklahoma UNC - NCST Wake – Duke K-State - OK State Pitt – L-Ville UVA - GT Iowa St - TCU BC - Baylor WVU - TX Tech Kansas – Syracuse
Three Bi-Annual Rotating Rivals : CU –UNC, UVA, WVU VA Tech –GT, FSU, NCST FSU –VT, Oklahoma, WVU Texas –GT, K-State, Miami Miami –BC, Pitt, Texas Oklahoma –K-State, Kansas, FSU UNC –UVA, CU, GT NCST –UVA, VA Tech, Duke Wake –Syracuse, BC, TCU Duke –NCST, Syracuse, TX Tech K-State - Oklahoma, Baylor, Texas OK State –Kansas, Iowa St, L-Ville Pitt –Miami, TCU, TX Tech L-Ville –OK State, Syracuse, WVU UVA –UNC, CU, NCST GT –UNC, VA Tech, TX Iowa St –OK State, TX Tech, Baylor TCU –BC, Wake, Pitt BC –Miami, Wake, TCU Baylor –K-State, Kansas, Iowa St WVU –FSU, CU, L-Ville TX Tech –Iowa St, Duke, Pitt Kansas –OK State, Oklahoma, Baylor Syracuse –Wake , Duke, L-Ville
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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seems like not having back-to-back road trips, for an
Feb 25, 2013, 2:20 AM
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entire season, would be a competitive advantage. the travel distances haven't changed since wvu joined the big12, and it just seems like that could be an competitive advantage to me. my point is wvu knew what they were getting into, but the $ signs clouded their judgement.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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Unfortunately WVU didn't have many options. Hopefully,
Feb 25, 2013, 9:35 AM
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Clemson would not make the same mistake. As you say, distance hasn't changed but some fans see only the dollar signs and not reality.
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Letterman [263]
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Are you paying attention, Maryland, et.al?
Feb 25, 2013, 6:13 AM
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This current feeding frenzy is stupid. And Maryland's Board of Trustees that approved their move will be proven to be as moronic as West Virginia's. Do you seriously expect the atheletes to be able to perform at a high level traveling all the time like that?
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Why would UNC (centrally located in ACC) leave for B1G?***
Feb 25, 2013, 8:37 AM
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Re: Big 12 agrees to look at WVU's travel problems
Feb 25, 2013, 7:36 AM
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I'm surprised there's no mention of increased travel expenses. It had to be significant.
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Re: Big 12 agrees to look at WVU's travel problems
Feb 25, 2013, 8:18 AM
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Smart Oliver should have considered these matters before joining the Big 12.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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Legally
Feb 25, 2013, 8:33 AM
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I've read where a contractual penalty is not legal.
Example: $50m exit fee for the ACC or Grant of Rights for the Big XII.
Your only responsibilities are paying for the true "damages" created when you break a contract.
If this is true, then the Big XII Grant of Rights is not enforceable.
If not enforceable, the ACC should take WVU in order to help ensure that the ACC is not left irrelevant after Conference Realignment ends.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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Of course, the "damages" could be very costly if taking WVU
Feb 25, 2013, 8:35 AM
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brings an end to the Big XII (as it opens the gates for TX, Oklahoma, etc. to leave for the SEC.)
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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You can read ANYTHING on TN. Being accurate is
Feb 25, 2013, 9:38 AM
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another story altogether.
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BUT THANK GOD THEY'RE MAKING SO MUCH MORE MONIES NOW!!!
Feb 25, 2013, 8:46 AM
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right? amidoinitrite?
lol...
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Wonder if Swoffy regretting WV decision?
Feb 25, 2013, 9:30 AM
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Could pluck off Penn State, Cincy or Uconn, sign a G-R and let the rest of America figure out what they're gonna do.
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Oculus Spirit [83197]
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Swoffy didn't get a vote. It's current ACC ADs.***
Feb 25, 2013, 9:55 AM
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110%er [8009]
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You mean the Presidents.***
Feb 25, 2013, 10:13 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83197]
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Not sure. Is that right? I know one of the two.***
Feb 25, 2013, 10:32 AM
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110%er [8009]
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Yeah, the Presidents are the ultimate decisions makers on
Feb 25, 2013, 10:52 AM
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new school invitations. The ADs may give their input, but the Presidents make the call.
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Team Captain [489]
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Proof that money is the only objective
Feb 25, 2013, 9:30 AM
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How do you think the kids are adjusting to all this traveling?
They are spending as much time traveling as they do in the classroom.
These people should be doing what is best for the kids, at the least not hurting them. But what do they care,
"money money money"
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they made an awful decision to go alone and it's going to
Feb 25, 2013, 10:02 AM
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hurt them in the long run.
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Their best choices were BE and BigXII.***
Feb 25, 2013, 12:03 PM
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someone make sure palmettoson sees this.
Feb 25, 2013, 10:22 AM
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Re: Big 12 agrees to look at WVU's travel problems
Feb 25, 2013, 11:26 AM
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Everytime I see someone saying we should go to the Big 12, I'm just going to post this link. How bout that?
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