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Anyone know anything about the Virginia Legislature and the
Nov 30, 2012, 11:22 AM
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moves they made to force VT in the ACC when the ACC wanted Cuse. I know they passed a law saying they had to play in the same conference but is there anymore details on why the ACC accepted this? Especially when the conference office is in NC.
Just thinking there might be a something there for us to follow and contact our state legislators about.
Because here is my line of thinking.
-Its state law for UVa and VT to play in the same conference
- UNC and NCState are governed by the same body. they are essentially one school with 2 branches.
if the SEC wants to move to 16 but gets blocked on these fronts a legislative move before or after may "encourage" the SEC to take CU and FSU. Or it may be as simple as mandating they vote for us if the opportunity ever comes up.
I tried to look up some of the old news stories on this and even Wikipedia didn't give details of how the legislature was involved. Anyone have a good memory or a link?
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Re: Anyone know anything about the Virginia Legislature and the
Nov 30, 2012, 11:34 AM
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As I remember it was the Governor.
The ACC needed 7 yes votes, UNC and Duke were no. They had the 7 but then the Governor of VA, who sits as the head of the Board of Regents (for all public Universities in the State), refused to vote yes unless Va Tech was included.
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EXACTLY!!!!!! this has been very misconstrued.
Nov 30, 2012, 12:50 PM
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it was the Governor (now Senator Mark Warner) who made this move alone w/o the Legislature. UVa's President & AD supported VT, but a couple of their Board of Visitors didn't. So the Governor let him know that they needed to support VT or he'd replace them... and the Governor inserted himself in the issue to help his poll # in SW Virginia, which was traditionally Republican. Also, VT was looking at a demise of the Big East, so was critical that they didn't get left out of the ACC.
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I just realized from GT's perspective, the B1G might be
Nov 30, 2012, 11:34 AM
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their best option. Nobody ever mentions them to the SEC. Suppose the SEC wises up and invites FSU and Clemson, GT is really in the lurch then. They can stay in Big East II or get frequent flyer miles with WVU. If they can beat VA and NC schools to the B1G, I don't blame them. UGA isn't going to look out for them.
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we don't need the dictators running everything***
Nov 30, 2012, 11:39 AM
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Re: we don't need the dictators running everything***
Nov 30, 2012, 12:09 PM
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Too late!! ESPN and the media run college football and dictate what happens. I don't think anyone is moving conferences to enhance the experience of better competition.
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Re: Anyone know anything about the Virginia Legislature and the
Nov 30, 2012, 11:47 AM
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As I remember it, UVA was the swing vote for approval of the expansion plan, with four schools against and four pro adding BC, Cuse and Miami. UVA was originally a pro-expansion vote, but the VA legislature put pressure on the UVA president to only support expansion if VT was part of the deal. The four pro-expansion schools gave in to the UVA deal to at least save some of the plan and Cuse got dropped. It was a pretty big cluster *%&#.
The SC & FL legislatures could make the same demands to bring in CU & FSU into the SEC, but it would only matter if there was a split vote among the conference schools. You're right, UNC and NC State are pretty much a package deal too if either one of thoem ever want to move.
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neither of those things will happen***
Nov 30, 2012, 12:04 PM
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There is no such state law in VA. Here's what happened:
Nov 30, 2012, 12:29 PM
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The ACC was very divided on expanding at all. UNC and Duke were dead set against it, and UVa was on the fence. Swofford and Barker were the architects of adding Miami, BC, and Syracuse, but they needed UVA's vote to get it done. VA Gov. Mark Warner and the VA legislative leadership called the UVa president and told him as follows:
You will not vote for any ACC expansion that does not include Va Tech. Tell Swofford that if Va Tech is part of the expansion, he has your vote. If Va Tech is not part of it, he doesn't. Syracuse had a smaller TV market than Miami or BC so they were out and Va Tech was in.
Could something like that happen in SC? Sure it could. But, Nikki Haley is no Mark Warner. In the end, if Mike Slive and the rest of the SEC decided it wants Clemson and FSU, the presidents of UF and USC would support it. Politically, they would have no choice. There is no way of knowing, however, whether they would ever be swing votes in the way that UVa was the swing vote back then.
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It's been basically explained above but what hasn't been
Nov 30, 2012, 1:21 PM
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stated, was that UVa DID NOT want Va tech in the ACC. The power play that was enforced was that the state of Virginia would withhold funding from UVa unless the voted to add VT to the conference. Thus UVa was forced to vote for adding VT to the ACC.
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