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Anyone following the social media hearings right now?
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Jan 31, 2024, 12:53 PM
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Congress is letting the social media execs have it, especially Zuckerberg. Thoughts? Seems to be a fairly bipartisan ### reaming. Graham told them they have "blood on their hands".
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Congress will do nothing, sadly, all talk. Tooooo much $$ involved.***
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Jan 31, 2024, 12:57 PM
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Agree to some extent but theres free speech and other legal considerations
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Easy for politicians to grandstand against the Tech boogeyman but difficult to craft legislation that hits the sweet spot between reasonable controls for public safety and censorship/ over regulation.
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You need to have a license to drive, buy cigarette, drink (legally), so why
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:14 PM
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not have a digital license. Not like the government isn't already watching. A child should not have easy access to pron, most kids know more about tech than parents.
I work in IT and have children and I support this message.
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Because you have a right to anonymously (to gov) browse sites.
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:19 PM
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And "license" requirements push kids to more dangerous sites outside of U.S. jurisdiction.
They don't work.
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Pron sites have the right to target kids? It's becoming an epidemic
Jan 31, 2024, 1:22 PM
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How are they targeting kids?***
Jan 31, 2024, 1:35 PM
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no valid age verification for pron sites, add search terms that kids would
Jan 31, 2024, 2:43 PM
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innocently search. Then there's the algorithms on the social media sites. Pron is readily available for kids of all ages.
It's all about the $$$.
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Kids have $$?
Jan 31, 2024, 2:52 PM
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I'd think they'd be targeting older folks who are earning something.
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Re: Kids have $$?
Jan 31, 2024, 5:09 PM
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free site and preview. Yes some parents actually give their kids cc.
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This seems like a parent problem, not a web site problem***
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They're all taking a wide berth around the pedophilia implications.***
Jan 31, 2024, 12:59 PM
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have they hit on pron and kids yet?***
Jan 31, 2024, 1:02 PM
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Cruz did about 30 minutes ago when I was watching...***
Jan 31, 2024, 1:06 PM
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What is their aim this time?***
Jan 31, 2024, 1:03 PM
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Same as it always it.
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:05 PM
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Coercion and donations.
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Re: What is their aim this time?***
Jan 31, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Not sure the end game, but they are really laying into them and claiming they're responsible for all the problems they've cause young people, even hinting that they're responsible for deaths. Not a very good start if we're talking about regulation possibilities. Hell, Graham is hinting at the need for regulation pretty strongly.
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He's definitely not hinting.
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:07 PM
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Oh good. So this ends with Congress working with them on new regulations
Jan 31, 2024, 1:08 PM
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that end up insulating their market shares and kneecapping any new competitors.
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Re: What is their aim this time?***
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:13 PM
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It's an election year. Everyone needs new soundbites for their commercials.
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Re: Of course, you also have Tom Cotton reinforcing that he's even dumber than
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Sooooooo are you Chinese or Japanese?
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Except not nearly as competent.***
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Re: Anyone following the social media hearings right now?
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:09 PM
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Just look at what growing up with social media has done to Gen Z, they are psychologically ruined. I won’t even dream of letting my kids use it, I don’t care if that makes me a mean dad or makes my kids uncool when they’re older. The research into effects of social media use especially on young girls is terrifying.
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From an unresearched distance, I would agree. Too many examples.***
Jan 31, 2024, 1:14 PM
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That seems to be one of the sticking points
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:28 PM
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Apparently a video was up recently for several hours with someone holding a severed head.
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Re: I have a 14 yr old daughter without a cell phone
Jan 31, 2024, 1:29 PM
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I got rid of YouTube off my kids’ devices too. They’re young, but you can get from benign kids stuff to weird AF suspect content shockingly easily.
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very disturbing #### on youtube***
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were they better off in the 1950's
Jan 31, 2024, 1:23 PM
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when everyone was socially and sexually represented, teenage girls' opinions were ignored, as well as women in general, and physical bullying was considered a societal norm ftowards those who did not conform.
Per my post the other day, almost every single serial killer was a baby boomer, there are none in Gen Z. Baby Boomers were far more violent and incarcerated at a much higher rate., Gen z is not. Baby Boomers had far more abortions, divorces, teenage pregnancies, and rates of alcoholism. The numbers are far lower for gen Z. I think we are referencing a lot of tropes that are patently false when it comes to the difference between generations. We are far better off now.
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Re: were they better off in the 1950's
Jan 31, 2024, 1:26 PM
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The Boomers have their own demons, but at least they know what gender they are and don’t find being “neurodivergent” as a point of pride.
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Re: were they better off in the 1950's
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these are outliers, and there were transexuals in the 50's. The vast majority of Gen Z is not running around in Drag. People seem to lack a sense of proportion when it comes to transgenderism, it is a tiny fraction of the population.
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Re: were they better off in the 1950's
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28% identify as LGBT. 87% say they experience mental health struggles regularly. 42% have a diagnosed mental health condition. 79% describe themselves as lonely.
These numbers are all strikingly higher than any other generation, even millennials that they are closest to. Something is wrong with Gen Z, and I think it might be constant exposure to social media and internet from a very young age.
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as far as the lonlyness thing,
Jan 31, 2024, 2:50 PM
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I cannot argue against it, I remember when kids used to play outdoors and did not have to dress in a suit of armor to ride their bikes. If anything, I blame this on irrational fear and tribalism. We are far more divided now. Covid had a hand here as well, curious what the stats were begfore the lockdowns, because I think this is a more recent trend and not isolated to one generation.
And If 28% identify as LGBT, they are lying or confused. And I am too busy at work for a nature-nurture debate. They'll figure themselves out.
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Re: were they better off in the 1950's
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There have always been transsexuals. Difference is today they expect you to pretend they are the opposite gender and want the govt to fine/imprison you if you midgender them, as is already happening in other countries. Add in the lefts sudden unquenchable desire to trans kids, without parental involvement or consent, and you've reached the unprecedented aspect of today's reality. Never have we been mutilating kids because mommy is a nut job and needs some social validation, but we sure as #### are doing it today.
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Re: were they better off in the 1950's
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“want the govt to fine/imprison you if you midgender them“
Stop.
“lefts sudden unquenchable desire to trans kids, without parental involvement or consent”
Stop.
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Stop is not an argument. Both of those points are valid.***
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Re: Stop is not an argument. Both of those points are valid.***
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No they aren’t, they’re drama queen BS
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Are you counting school shooters?
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Jan 31, 2024, 1:41 PM
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Cause in the last 20 years or so, I don't think a majority of them were boomers. Stephen Craddock, the guy in Las Vegas had a bigger death toll, but that's one guy out of dozens. I can think of at least a 1/2 dozen school and club shootings that the shooter was the typical mid 20-30's white guy. Even the most famous school shooters--Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold were teenage white dudes. So was Adam Lanza--child killer at Sandy hook.The guy who did Va Tech was a 23 year old Korean dude.
As to teh 50's being better? I dunno
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I think there's a fundamental difference between mass killers and
Jan 31, 2024, 2:21 PM
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serial killers, i.e., the number of incidents.
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wish you could come spend a day with me at work
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you'd change your tune. I've been practicing now since 1995, and even in that "short" time, I can unequivocally say you are wrong, at least in my experience
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Re: wish you could come spend a day with me at work
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What’s your take on gen Z mental health? Am I oversimplifying by blaming internet & social media?
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Like you referenced earlier
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there are some really good studies linking amount of time spent on social media directly correlating to increased risk for anxiety and depression. Right now I am seeing/treating/referring more adolescents for those conditions many times over the rate that I was say 10 years ago. Part of that well may be due to increased recognition. Other factors that are my own bias probably contribute, but won't go into that here.
My overall take is currently resources are severely lacking to take on the workload of the current state of Gen Z mental health. I would say it is tied right now with pediatric obesity as the co #1 biggest problems in adolescent health, maybe passed to sole ownership
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Point of contention
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One reason we don't have any Gen Z serial killers could be because they're too ####### lazy to get up and do it.
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I think the more likely reason is that it's basically impossible to be a
Jan 31, 2024, 2:25 PM
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serial killer with the sophistication of law enforcement and the sheer number of cameras everywhere. Somebody like Edmund Kemper, for example, would surely be caught on a dashcam (or something similar) before he could pick up and kill 8 different victims.
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The same lust for notoriety and control exercised through murder
Jan 31, 2024, 2:28 PM
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can now be fulfilled through brutalizing others on social media.
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or gaming***
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Today's serial killers go ahead and knock it out in one day - rather than
Jan 31, 2024, 4:12 PM
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Heck - social media has even given the serial killer's a "look at me" approach in the 2020's. Back in the 50's, they didn't want to get caught. Now - they do...
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That kinda correlates with the 'loneliness' thing...***
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I had one of those rare---very rare---moments of satisfaction the other day.
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Wouldn't let my kids have any social media accounts until high school and godalmighty it was a war at times with my daughter.
We were sitting around the other night and she was remarking how all the middle schoolers she sees now are so messed up with social media and really are dangerously trying to act far older than they really are online. Then she said (and I might have a plaque made to commemorate the moment) "Dad, thank you so much for not letting me get social media back then".
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How did you navigate that? My kid is 4, so I'm just crossing my fingers
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the whole social media paradigm collapses over the next five years and we return to an agrarian society. However, in the event that doesn't happen, I would very much like to pursue that same path.
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I was simpler than it seems.
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Didn't get either of them cell phones till 7th or 8th grade. Yes, your wife will start arguing around 3rd or 4th grade that it's life or death that they have a phone and what if the alien apocalypse comes during recess while they're at school and they can't call you but it's up to you to convince her of the stupidity of that.
When you get the phone, set them up a child's Apple ID that rolls to yours, and lock that ish down using the parental controls.
From there, you only have a year or two to fight them on getting social media if you want to wait till high school.
I'd still love that they didn't have it in high school but that just unrealistic in my estimation, but no joke, I think kids in a pack reach peak psychopath/a-hole/byatch in middle school, so if they just are out of that mix altogether, life is a lot easier.
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Re: Anyone following the social media hearings right now?
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No amout of govt legislation will overcome poor parenting and if your kids addicted to online pron, or anything else related to being online, it's because of ###### parenting. Not that difficult to not let your kids have unfettered access to the internet but then you'd risk upsetting their delicate sensibilities.
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Good points...
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Now apply this to people who want to ban books.
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kids are smarter than the average bear
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The only sure fire way for a parent to prevent kids accessing #### is to remove the technology
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Making #### up again, I see.***
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Sounds like the typical dumb***erry of Congress.***
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Re: Anyone following the social media hearings right now?
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I think parents need to look inwards as well. Maybe your child doesnt need a tik tok, smart phones, or facebook account. This by no means absolves these companies of their wrongdoings, but maybe parents should start being more involved in their kids lives.
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A "reaming" from congress? What will that amount to.***
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