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Clemson Icon [24876]
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Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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Nov 19, 2025, 8:26 AM
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A disease that was eradicated in the USA in 2000.
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Guess Biden shouldnt have let a bunch of 3rd world moochers in huh?***
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Re: Guess Biden shouldnt have let a bunch of 3rd world moochers in huh?***
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yup, same reason we lost the Syracuse game.
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Re: Guess Biden shouldnt have let a bunch of 3rd world moochers in huh?***
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Nov 19, 2025, 8:52 AM
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Ha, that gave me a good laugh out loud moment.
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Re: Guess Biden shouldnt have let a bunch of 3rd world moochers in huh?***
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Nov 19, 2025, 10:48 AM
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Traced back to illegal immigrants to make it clearer for you!
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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Nov 19, 2025, 8:36 AM
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not so sure finger pointed in the right direction on this one mate
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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Nov 19, 2025, 8:36 AM
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Bunch of tree huggin hipsters got priced out of asheville and moved down I26 i reckon
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National Champion [7106]
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Says they guy that wears mask while driving alone in his car....***
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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I wear 3 masks and tie a plastic bag over my head. It's worked so far.
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Re: I wear 3 masks and tie a plastic bag over my head. It's worked so far.
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:10 AM
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The plastic bag should be enough!
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It seems the outbreak started at Global Academy of South Carolina
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which is a charter school for immigrants. To your point there is no vaccination requirement to enroll.
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anti-vaxxer reporting in. How can I help you?***
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Rival Killer [2999]
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Back to the future.
Nov 19, 2025, 8:58 AM
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Welcome!
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Ultimate Tiger [35199]
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Glad to be here.. thank you.***
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:01 AM
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There is a big difference between vaccines that were created over 60 years ago that have proven to eradicate illnesses and one that was rushed into distribution without proper testing and validation. It is possible to be skeptical of some vaccines while still believing in the effectiveness of other, proven vaccines.
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Ultimate Tiger [35199]
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No way
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You gotta pick a side.
Pro vaxxer and you get every dang vaccine possible
Anti vaxxer - you don't get a single one.
No middle ground.. no logic.. no science..no choices
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:36 AM
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I'm not anti-vax at all, but I was not rushing to get in line for a COVID vaccination, for what I felt were good reasons: mostly I don't trust a rushed-out, hastily approved vaccine to be any safer than the last few times we rushed out a pandemic vaccine. Especially given the extremely low risk of the virus itself actually doing me any significant harm...the cure may indeed be worse than the disease in such a case.
At the time I looked at some past experiences, and asked "how will it be any different this time?" And realize that every time we're told "it's different this time"...they were wrong. I expected to hear almost verbatim arguments as to the safety and efficacy of some future COVID vaccine, and I did.
In 2009, the H1N1 "swine flu" was a considered a pandemic...it ended up being a non-event (unlike in 2017-18, when 60-90k Americans died from the H1N1 flu). In an article that came out at that time, it admitted that:
"What about the vaccines? People’s nervousness about swine flu vaccines is understandable. In 1976, after the death of a US army recruit triggered fears of a repeat of the deadly 1918 pandemic, around 48 million Americans were given a swine flu vaccine. Of these, 532 developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralytic condition caused by rogue antibodies attacking nerve cells. Most people recover from Guillain-Barré, but not all; 25 died after 1976 and others suffered lasting damage.
The article spent a lot of time trying to debunk the "myth" that the vaccine was potentially dangerous, by saying that was true about earlier emergency vaccines, but that this time it was different and ends with "Still think it’s safer not to get vaccinated?"
By 2012, evidence began mounting that the safety of the vaccine was not, perhaps, all it had been promised. It was not "different this time" after all.
Headline: Swine Flu Vaccine May Be Linked to Rare Nerve Disorder
"The H1N1 swine flu vaccine of 2009 is linked to the painful Guillain–Barré syndrome, just like the 1976 swine fl...
Not only not different, but pretty much exactly the same!
By 2020 lawsuits were still pending and thousands of people are still dealing with issues from that round vaccines...note that the worst-case models caused the panic and were revised down, but people were still forced to submit to the vaccinations...all the while being lied to about the safety and testing behind the development...
I'm not anti-vaccine in general, and I understand the science of a vaccine at an advanced layman's level.
What I don't trust is a rushed vaccine jammed through the various processes in record time under emergency pressures. People and companies and governments will cut corners to make a deadline. People will get hurt. For low-risk people (remember, for 30% of COVID infections, the symptoms are simply not noticeable, and for another 30% or so, the symptoms are very mild) the vaccine side-effects may be worse than getting COVID.
Flu shots, MMR vaccines, polio vaccines, etc. were developed patiently (pun intended?) over years and well tested, with side-effects being very rare. I'm just not sure the same can be said of whatever Pfizer, et al., are churning out.
Maybe to put it another way: I was not sure that maybe personally taking my chances with nature's virus than with the politicians and corporate folks who seem very intent on forcing me to take their shots knowing full well that they've rushed the process because billions and billions of dollars were thrown their way to DO SOMETHING.
Ultimately, to keep my job, I had to submit but I waited as long as I possibly could and opted for the J&J version (not an mRNA shot). Of course, I still tested positive for COVID a few months later, but was largely asymptomatic except for one afternoon of feeling "under the weather", which resolved after a nap, some soup, and a good night's sleep. I suppose it's possible the shot lessened the impact, but it didn't do anything to stop me from getting COVID (unlike MMR or polio vaccine that almost guarantees not getting those diseases).
P.S. I think I got a measles booster when I was at Clemson due to an outbreak that happened in the 1980s?
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
Nov 19, 2025, 10:05 AM
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Quote:"What about the vaccines? People’s nervousness about swine flu vaccines is understandable. In 1976, after the death of a US army recruit triggered fears of a repeat of the deadly 1918 pandemic, around 48 million Americans were given a swine flu vaccine. Of these, 532 developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralytic condition caused by rogue antibodies attacking nerve cells. Most people recover from Guillain-Barré, but not all; 25 died after 1976 and others suffered lasting damage."
Yes .... that was the year that Johnny Carson joked that "we had discovered a cure for which there was no known disease".
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Some misconceptions here. The COVID vaccine underwent the same clinical trials and follow-ups as other vaccines, which were very thorough and rigorous. And it's development was possible due to years of research on similar coronaviruses like MERS and SARS and decades of research on mRNA. Also some of the steps in the process were done concurrently instead of waiting for the previous step to finish, which sped up the process. None of this affected the safety of the vaccine. The main things "fast-tracked" was the paperwork and beuracracy typically involved with other medications due to the seriousness of the pandemic.
And 60-90K Americans did not die from H1N1 in 2017-18. No idea where you got that from.
And the risk of Guillain Barre syndrome in 2009 is overstated. In 1976, the risk was about 1 person in 100,000 (additional cases above what would normally occur without the H1N1 vaccine). In 2009 that number was about 2 in 1 Million.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/02/18/6-important-truths-about-covid-19-vaccines/
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No worries RFK is working on it. Will take a little time to get these vaccine
Nov 19, 2025, 9:08 AM
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manufacturers to produce them without all the harmful preservatives and foreign substances needed for mass production and storage agents just to make more money. Safe and effective is better than harmful for the sake of mass production. Its hard work pushing these pharma giants.
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Americans will not be happy in 2027 once
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:11 AM
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His new rules kick in.
Our products will look worse, Taste worse. And will not last as long.
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Paw Warrior [4988]
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When I was young there were no vaccines.
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:15 AM
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We all got the childhood diseases. We had measles, mumps, and chicken pox. It was no fun but most of us came through OK. My own children had these diseases but if vaccines were available I would have made sure they got them.
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Re: When I was young there were no vaccines.
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We all got the childhood diseases. We had measles, mumps, and chicken pox. It was no fun but most of us came through OK. My own children had these diseases but if vaccines were available I would have made sure they got them.
And life expectancy was about 13 years less then. Good grief!
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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Well, it's been a rollercoaster for sure. Hard to keep up. First, the
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China Virus was a hoax created for the election. Then millions of people worldwide started dying. Then Trump launched a yuge push for a vaccine. It was a massive success, done in record time. Proof positive what a true business man could accomplish without all of the usual red tape and FDA nonsense.
Then a strange thing happened. There was a backlash from the same folks who were cheering it on earlier.
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The covid vaccine is the 5th largest clinical
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:43 AM
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Study in the history of mankind.
We'll find out how "successful" it is . It is inevitable.
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If you want a good laugh, click on the Comments of an article
Nov 19, 2025, 9:52 AM
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about the rise of any disease, like colon cancer, etc. A gazillion people immediately chime in and start blaming "the jab". They never seem to notice that the increase started in 1990.
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It's horrible reading those predictable comments.
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Anytime someone gets cancer or has a heart attack, they blame the jab.
Same goes for anyone who dies younger than they think they should.
It's maddening.
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Re: It's horrible reading those predictable comments.
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BS, I am a cancer survivor with over 100 doses of chemo and radiation. I have never blamed a jab and never once did I hear that from my fellow chemo patients as we chatted during infusions.
You made up some major BS hear! I lived that life!
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Clemson Sports Icon [54078]
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Read the comments on Facebook sometime.
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Nov 19, 2025, 3:38 PM
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You’ll see plenty of people’s knee-jerk reaction blaming “the jab.”
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Re: Read the comments on Facebook sometime.
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They are idiots and you are are dumb for regurgitating idiotic FB comments. I quit FB like 8-9yrs ago.
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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When you import Third World, you become Third World........
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
Nov 19, 2025, 9:51 AM
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"Maybe you're part of the problem TYLERRR!"
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
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Nov 19, 2025, 9:53 AM
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Your assumption is 100% incorrect.
Virtually every instance of new measle cases in the U.S. is attributed to illegal immigration. This has been brought on by the left's insane, illegal, and anti-American immigration policy.
Your post proves (yet again) why mentally ill people should be institutionalized.
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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The US has always had tons of people crossing the border back and
Nov 19, 2025, 10:04 AM
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forth. The difference was, we were all vaccinated. So we didn't catch & spread whatever they brought in.
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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To be honest, this post was just to promote my startup Iron Lung LLC.
Nov 19, 2025, 10:14 AM
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I'm betting big on a Polio comeback. Still looking for VC investments.
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Paw Warrior [5010]
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Re: To be honest, this post was just to promote my startup Iron Lung LLC.
Nov 19, 2025, 10:33 AM
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I think the REAL money would be in treating Tuberculosis...just sayin'.
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Re: To be honest, this post was just to promote my startup Iron Lung LLC.
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Currently, the vaccines for Covid are only approved for everyone > 65 YO and those < 64 "with risk factors". So currently, "everyone" shouldn't be getting the vaccine.
Last I checked the FDA package insert (which I do often), no firm data was provided on serious side effects from the vaccine. Yet I have seen a young male distance runner develop CHF from myocarditis within weeks of receiving the vaccine.
I think the main issue for most "anti-vaxers" was being forced to take an experimental vaccine that they did not want, and having to face consequences if they did not. Like Carhartt firing employees who didn't get the vaccination, and other companies doing similar.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54078]
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Link to the data showing which kids were vaccinated and which ones weren't?***
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National Champion [7313]
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The kids with measles -- not vaxx'd. The kids with no measles -- vaxx'd.
Nov 19, 2025, 2:08 PM
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Best guess.
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Clemson Sports Icon [54078]
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Great, do you have a link to that info for each kid?
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Nov 19, 2025, 2:11 PM
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Otherwise, we are just guessing as who who was vaccinated, who wasn't vaccinated, and therefore we can't draw educated conclusions regarding the vaccine's effectiveness or lack thereof.
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National Champion [7313]
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Well, given that MMR vax is about 98% effective,
Nov 19, 2025, 2:43 PM
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it's probably not big a stretch to think 98% of those infected with measles in Sparkle City are not vaxxed.
98% comes from Yale Medicine. They're pretty smart.
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Yes it is a very effective vaccine.
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Nov 19, 2025, 2:48 PM
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Who here is debating the measles vaccine’s effectiveness?
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National Champion [7313]
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If 50 people have the measles, and we know the vax is
Nov 19, 2025, 3:45 PM
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98% effective, then we can safely assume 49 of them are not vaxxed.
I feel like these dots are not hard to connect.
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Really don't know what all the hub-bub's about.
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Nov 19, 2025, 2:06 PM
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I've had all the vaxxes and have only grown one extra nipple to date.
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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I have 3. My GF thinks it's cool but she's kinda kinky.
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Re: Spartanburg now has 50 cases of the measles, good job anti-vaxxers.
Nov 19, 2025, 2:18 PM
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Pureblood here and proud of it.
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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CU football hasn't been the same since the jab. Coincidence? I think not.
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Nov 19, 2025, 2:27 PM
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Clemson Icon [24174]
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Your GD destroyed the immune system
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Nov 19, 2025, 2:59 PM
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Don't know of a single UNvaxed kid having measels
So , shut your GD pie hole, you brought it on your kind
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Clemson Icon [24876]
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translate?
Nov 19, 2025, 3:15 PM
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Ring of Honor [22953]
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Good thing you and I are vaxxed
Nov 19, 2025, 3:52 PM
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why you mad at them?
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