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FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:23 PM
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Bye***
Jan 20, 2016, 4:25 PM
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:26 PM
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And the hits keep on coming...as many defections as we've had our NC hopes fade a little bit each day....
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Next man up.***
Jan 20, 2016, 4:27 PM
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Korrin Wiggins, Jadar Johnson, Tanner Muse, Van Smith
Jan 20, 2016, 4:30 PM
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That's the 2 deep. JG could just want to start somewhere else.
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Re: Korrin Wiggins, Jadar Johnson, Tanner Muse, Van Smith
Jan 20, 2016, 4:35 PM
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Good points SOLOS AND MRTTMT, I have to be mindful of knee jerk reactions.
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Ring of Honor [23799]
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Not kneejerk,without signing a couple Safeties,
Jan 20, 2016, 4:38 PM
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injuries could hurt us. Hopefully this is one of those situations he talked over with the coaches and realized he'd be better off elsewhere because of what we have and who they know is coming in.
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Game Changer [1652]
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Re: Not kneejerk,without signing a couple Safeties,
Jan 20, 2016, 4:57 PM
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I really hope this means we're getting Isaiah Simmons, because that kid looks like he could come in and start. Great size, speed, and excellent hands. Who knows, but hope Jeffrie has a plan and something works out for him.
Go Tigers!
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Just a guess, but only playing 59 snaps
Jan 20, 2016, 4:41 PM
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when the starting Safety went into cruise mode the last half of the year sort proves that theory.
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Not really. Van Smith and Jadar Johnson were on the two
Jan 20, 2016, 4:44 PM
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deep this year and came in for Kearse/Green
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Lol, Get real
Jan 20, 2016, 4:40 PM
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A backup safety is not going to make or break our 2016 title chances
I heard the same thing last summer after the losses of Ogundeko, Battle, Rogers....
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Rogers could have hurt bad if Goodson or Bouleware
Jan 20, 2016, 4:45 PM
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would have had serious injury.
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Rogers and Ogundeko hurt more next year than this year
Jan 20, 2016, 10:04 PM
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It did really hurt our depth this year, and led to some of the problems we had later in the season when the starters were really getting tired.
But next year, with both upperclassman DEs leaving and nobody with much talent and experience backing up Boulware and Goodson this year, not having those guys really hurts.
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Re: Lol, Get real
Jan 27, 2016, 8:32 AM
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There was a time, not all that long ago, where some defections were very concerning. We now are so deep with quality talent that it is not an issue. My guess is he knows he won't start, and that's okay. Most of the team doesn't start, and he may even have seen someone else who will move him farther down the roster. I wish him the best, but I'm not worried in the least. I was worried when Battle announced, and when Reeder took his sabatical, but I just reflect on how that worked out. We now have great depth. I'm no longer worried about a kid leaving.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:51 PM
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Well, if there's a team in the country that has the potential to do so, I like our chances. We will see our struggles on the defensive side of the ball, but BV and company will keep us from looking like a Big12 team.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:46 PM
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> And the hits keep on coming...as many defections as
> we've had our NC hopes fade a little bit each day....
You can't say that!!!...lol defectors... National Championship hope fade!? How can you be negative 2weeks out from signing day.. I bet you dislike Dabo too huh?
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:59 PM
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"You can't say that!!!...lol defectors... National Championship hope fade!? How can you be negative 2weeks out from signing day.. I bet you dislike Dabo too huh?"
Nancy talking football may not be for you lol Go do a puzzle or knit something
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:07 PM
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Nancy talking football? Fill me in on what that is... Wanna try a word puzzle instead?smarty!! Not here to argue, not here to hear sky is falling either!!
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:21 PM
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It will take more than 10 post to lean how to get along in here!!!
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 8:15 PM
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Trying to say stay positive.. Don't need 100 posts to learn that!!
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 7:10 PM
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Usually, when guys leave early like this, they see the handwriting on the wall that playing time is questionable, and opportunities to become a starter are non-existant. I hope he finds what he is looking for. We have lots of talent, and we have lots of quality prospects who are very good. Though I hate to see anybody leave the program before graduating and/or being drafted, I'm not worried at all about our success in the future. I believe we will be just fine for a long time.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:27 PM
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Wish this young man luck in his future . You're always a Tiger .
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:30 PM
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Nope, not always a Tiger IMO.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:52 PM
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Best wishes, see ya! He absolutely was not going to see the playing time. When you have the attention our program does, there will be a bit of turnover...don't drink the kool-aid. The Tigers will be fine and dandy. BV will have our D ready for Auburn.
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I agree with not a Tiger
Jan 20, 2016, 9:08 PM
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if you bail on your team, especially this late in the cycle, you are NOT a Tiger. He got Spurrieritis and quit.
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Jan 20, 2016, 4:27 PM
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dude.......***
Jan 20, 2016, 5:29 PM
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Paw Warrior [4626]
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Not a wise decision by Gibson. Here's why:
Jan 20, 2016, 5:35 PM
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1) you're a redshirt freshman. Plenty of time to grow and mature as a player (see BJ Goodson and Kevin Dodd)
2) Nobody utilizes big safeties like BV, and has a track record to prove it (TJ Green, Kearse).
3) Leaving a great university and fanbase
Anyways...best of luck
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Didn't mean to steal your thunder Obed
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Mi scusi
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Hate to hear that. He's going to be a good player.***
Jan 20, 2016, 4:27 PM
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Jefferie could have played a lot this year.
Jan 20, 2016, 4:28 PM
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We must get Mullen now and or a Safety this signing period
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WHY?!
Jan 20, 2016, 4:28 PM
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Best chance for playing time is now! Man this hurts. So thin.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:31 PM
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This one will sting a little. Really thought he could develop into another big bodied/rangy safety like JK. Has to be more to this - anyone with any insight?
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:05 PM
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PURELY my opinion and I have no insight whatsoever, but I'd imagine the players have post-season meetings with the coaches where they review the season, share player goals vs coaches plan for him moving forward. And if those stars don't align, a player may feel he can get a better shot at meeting his goals elsewhere. It's nothing against the player or the program, but both players and coaches have the right to choose what's best for them. Some just go about it differently than others. For example Chad Kelly went about it absolute wrong way, but he has found success at Ole Miss. If he were still at Clemson he'd still be holding the clipboard.
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You guys are absolutely hilarious
Jan 20, 2016, 4:32 PM
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There is a reason the kid is transferring. Read the two deep. And check in on signing day.
Gibson was going to have a hard time seeing the field exclusively, if at all. Best of luck to the kid, but we have absolute ballers in the two deep without counting any incoming recruits.
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Why was he going to have a hard time seeing the field based
Jan 20, 2016, 4:40 PM
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on what anyone on Tigernet knows?
I figured he'd be in the top 4 for sure.
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Re: Why was he going to have a hard time seeing the field based
Jan 20, 2016, 4:51 PM
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If you look at the depth charts all year you would see that Gibson was sharing the backup roll of Free Safety with Van Smith. This all changed in the National Championship game when the "or" and Gibson's name was removed from the chart. Makes one wonder what happened?
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Re: You guys are absolutely hilarious
Jan 20, 2016, 4:44 PM
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I understand the concern. The stables are not exactly full at db... Not even if we get Mullen and Hill and the kid from the Semper Fi game. Mullen isn't ready to play at this level yet. We have some talent without question, but just thinking of the number of busts from our db's that led to big plays makes me hesitant to proclaim that we have nothing to be concerned about. Experience means an awful lot. I hope you are right, but we will see some issues with pass coverage and assignment football from the defensive backfield. We'll also see some of that at LB and DE. You can't lose the type of talent we have lost over the past two seasons on the defensive side of the ball without it biting you in the rear. Thankfully we have the best D Coordinator in the business and quality defensive coaches all around to help us with the learning curve. Sorry if not every Tiger fan shares your unswerving optimism.
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All-American [570]
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Exactly....
Jan 20, 2016, 5:57 PM
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Potential means alot....but experience means more....Case in point...
Our Peters.
First year out was a little rough....but by UGA in '13...our Peters was firing on all cylinders.
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Re: You guys are absolutely hilarious
Jan 20, 2016, 7:51 PM
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Nobody is mentioning Mark Fields. I know he was a true freshman last year and saw the field very little but with Coach Reed working with him he should be starting at one corner. Yes, we are still a little thin at safety but with Cordrea returning and the young talent already on campus, I feel pretty good about our corners
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Re: You guys are absolutely hilarious
Jan 20, 2016, 9:00 PM
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I agree with you about our corners. Tank is an All-ACC guy. Fields and Baker are solid and only gonna get better. Edmonds is a good player. Jabari is a solid player. Smith has flashed. There are some other young guys with plenty of talent and who knows if any freshman we get can contribute, but aside from Jadar and Tank, they are all really green. We will be very well coached and be talented, but it will hurt us. We quite possibly could have enough offense to answer the bell regardless.
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Re: You guys are absolutely hilarious
Jan 20, 2016, 9:23 PM
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Who is Jabari? Did we sign someone??? Lol
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Re: You guys are absolutely hilarious
Jan 21, 2016, 1:54 AM
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You don't know about Jabari?? He's gonna be ... alright, you got me, dang autocorrect.
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exactly, if he was going to get playing time he wouldn't be leaving....
Jan 20, 2016, 6:06 PM
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Look at the roster we still have plenty of safeties. I guess most people on tnet missed it when we signed 9 DB's a couple of years ago
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Bye Felicia!***
Jan 20, 2016, 4:33 PM
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Only played 59 snaps last year.
Jan 20, 2016, 4:35 PM
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I'm guessing that had something to do with it.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:37 PM
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:42 PM
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 4:44 PM
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Makes my crystal ball show an image of Mullen in Orange 
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Good Luck.........
Jan 20, 2016, 4:47 PM
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....Go Tigers............
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Gotta really question what this kid is thinking
Jan 20, 2016, 4:55 PM
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Did he not just see virtually our entire secondary declare for the NFL? This decision could have cost this kid millions. Hope he knows what he's doing.
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Re: Gotta really question what this kid is thinking
Jan 20, 2016, 5:22 PM
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It could be grades.
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All players were eligible for bowl.***
Jan 20, 2016, 10:51 PM
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:14 PM
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Nothing to be happy about here. His hit during the Miami game was the hardest we saw all year. I'm not going to cry myself to sleep over his decision to transfer, but I'm not going to clap my hands in elation either.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:16 PM
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The great players are leaving for the NFL, and the not so great players are seeing the big picture early. Great teams have big turn overs. Goooo Tigerssss!!!!
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:20 PM
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Should we just recruit Rashan Gary to play safety at this point?
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:21 PM
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He may get beat deep once or twice, but it would sure cut down on those intermediate routes across the middle.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:30 PM
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Then it's worth it in my opinion.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 8:26 PM
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With Gary and the other big time guys added to the front seven, we may not need any safeties!!!
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CONGARTS YULE ALWAYS BE A TIGER!!!***
Jan 20, 2016, 5:29 PM
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 5:32 PM
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Best of luck and best wishes.
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Arrrgh! Hate to see Gibson go.
Jan 20, 2016, 5:57 PM
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I was really looking forward to him play, and it hurts or depth at safety even more. I thought this was going to be his year to break out. Oh well. Good luck, Jeffrie.
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the proverbial writing on the wall . . . . . n/m
Jan 20, 2016, 7:46 PM
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nmnmnm
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Was it something we said?***
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 9:10 PM
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Haye to see him go. He had the potential to see playing time. He had game experience and knew the playbook. Hard to get snaps with the depth in front of him, but could have stuck it out and probably developed into a good player. Wish you luck where ever you end up and get your degree. GO TIGERS!!!
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This is starting to smell bad...
Jan 20, 2016, 9:45 PM
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First Korie Rogers quitting, then DJ Reader leaving for who knows how long, then Zac Brooks quitting, now this. Kinda weird.
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Re: This is starting to smell bad...
Jan 20, 2016, 9:48 PM
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Really?
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Re: This is starting to smell bad...
Jan 20, 2016, 9:50 PM
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You're starting to smell bad. Kind of like chicken sh!t.
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Re: This is starting to smell bad...
Jan 21, 2016, 5:26 PM
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Worry warts! Clemson will be fine by September. As I recall, the Tigers lost 3/4 of their defense from the 2014 team and came within 6 points of winning a Natty. Also, guys are leaving other programs too. Relax and enjoy the off-season.
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Re: FB Update: Clemson DB to transfer
Jan 20, 2016, 9:47 PM
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Best of luck young man!
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Anorher kind of weird one. He was in line for lots of PT.
Jan 20, 2016, 9:52 PM
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This isn't quite as bad as Rodgers quitting, though.
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Thanks for being a Tigers! Hope you succeed
Jan 20, 2016, 10:06 PM
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at everything you set out to do and you graduate. God bless you and guide you brother. We will miss you but we know you will move on and we will too. Laugh, love and cry living life to the fullest each day.
We are loaded with CB's and DB's I hope we add a couple more this year but we have plenty of talent on our roster.
I wish Savion would rethink going to LSU. I hope Mr. Mullen chooses us too. We are loaded with talent on defense. Brent will have everybody ready to play their best on defense.
Our offense will be a headache for defensive coordinators, like never before. Our offense will be dominant.
Go Tigers
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Re: Thanks for being a Tigers! Hope you succeed
Jan 20, 2016, 11:00 PM
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Don't we have 100 players ??? We will have a few transfer .,
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Being an elite program requires a lot from these kids
Jan 20, 2016, 10:48 PM
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the pressure can either turn these kids into diamonds or dust. If their hearts aren't in it they get lost in the shuffle quickly. This kid for instance, my shot in the dark guess is he want's the football, meaning he wanted to play offense, return kicks or punts, and might have gotten a birdie in his ear telling him he should be playing offense and he never should have taken the advice to become a defensive player. Bottom line is his heart isn't in it and poof, he is dust. Gone.
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That leaves 4 Safeties
Jan 21, 2016, 3:40 AM
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One that has been at Clemson for more than one year.
18 Jadar Johnson 13-77 SF 16 6-0 203 Orangeburg SC O-W HS 6.29.95 MH
14 Denzel Johnson 15-78 SF 18 6-1 194 Columbia SC AC Flora HS 4.19.97 MR
23 Van Smith 15-80 SF 18 6-0 188 Cornelius NC Hough HS 8.14.96 DP
19 Tanner Muse 15-77 SF 19* 6-4 222 Belmont NC South Point HS 9.06.96 DB/MR
#s after name = Class Of/ESPN Ranking. Generally, 70s=3* 80s=4* 90s=5*
Initials at end = Recruiter MH=Marion Hobby etc.
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I have no info whatsoever, but this looks to me like a
Jan 21, 2016, 7:09 AM
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situation where he may have been told of a silent commit (or commits) at his position that was going to push him even farther down the depth chart, and the transfer is purely playing time related. I wish him all the luck in the world either way. He will always remember being a Clemson Tiger.
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The rumor is......
Jan 21, 2016, 10:47 AM
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he got some advice from someone "outside the program" to transfer and play WR at a JUCO, then have 2 years eligibility to transfer "somewhere" to play at WR.
Bad advice for sure. He would have had serious playing time next season at safety.
Oh well, frees up another scholly so I think we have a good chance to land some more help at safety.
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Re: The rumor is......
Jan 21, 2016, 1:21 PM
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If you want to see panic on this board wait a couple of years when we have a log jam behind the starting QB and one transfers. That's when it will be the "end of Clemson"
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Depending on how long each stays. We could already
Jan 21, 2016, 5:35 PM
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Be at a log jam. Watson.bryant. Cooper. Johnson .
If they but in we'll be alright. see OSU
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